Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

[Trader Joe]

Re: Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

I thing the real challenge here is on Vogel. It is never a bad thing to add more talent for nothign and that is what we did yesterday. Yes, I wish we could have gotten Kaman, but if the asking price was a first round pick, I understand why we said no thanks.

Barbosa could very likely win us a game or two with one of his scoring runs in these playoffs. For example, take any of the 3 close games we lost to the Bulls last year, if Barbosa comes in and rips off a ten point run on his own in any of the second halves of those games, that Pacers probably walk away with a win.

[Sandman21]

Re: Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

Barbosa could very likely win us a game or two with one of his scoring runs in these playoffs. For example, take any of the 3 close games we lost to the Bulls last year, if Barbosa comes in and rips off a ten point run on his own in any of the second halves of those games, that Pacers probably walk away with a win.

I'll go further than that, if we have a Barbosa type player who can make those 10 point runs last year, I think we seriously could have beaten the Bulls in 7.

[pacergod2]

Re: Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

This deal was made with one main idea, IMO, to increase the hell out of the pace that our second unit plays at. Amundson, Hans, Jones, Barbosa, and Collison. Collison and Barbosa are two of the fastest guys in the league with the ball. Amundson and Hans will outwork everybody else and don't play above the rim as much as other second units. They will look to run, run, run.

AJ Price has been playing very well and it sucks that this moves him down the rotation, IMO.

[CableKC]

Re: Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

Not much here to read....I just wanted to post this for the highlighted part about how the Anthony Carter trade fits into all of this and how it affected our remaining Cap room.

http://basketball.realgm.com/blog/219804/Grading_The_Deal_Pacers_Deal_For_Barbosa

Sensing a need for additional scoring off the bench and with the cap space available to take on a player without giving one up in return, the Indiana Pacers acquired Leandro Barbosa from the Toronto Raptors.

In return, the Pacers are sending the Raptors a second-round draft pick. Leading up to the trade deadline, Indiana had two open rosters spots and approximately $14 million in cap space.

The crux of the deal for Indiana is Barbosa, while Toronto acquires a $7.6 trade exception from the Pacers that will be valid until next year’s deadline.

Barbosa is making $7.6 million in the final year of his contract, leaving the Pacers with roughly $6.4 million in space this year. Carter’s deal is worth $1.35 million, dropping that number to a little more than $5 million.

The Pacers had been linked to Chris Kaman, but the Hornets aren’t going to take on contracts to deal the big man, who is making more than $14 million in the final year of his deal. It’s likely that Indiana made the move for Barbosa after either getting rebuffed (or deciding not to pull the trigger) on Kaman because they are now believed to be out of the race.

On the surface, Barbosa will allow Frank Vogel to do two things. They have exploded in the last two games (91 total points), but the Pacers needed to add some scoring off the bench. George Hill appears to have returned to form after a recent shoulder injury and Tyler Hansbrough is streaky. Quite frankly, Indiana lacked a third scoring with the starters resting. Lou Amundson has been red-hot as of late, but you aren’t going to run plays through him with much frequency.

Barbosa can score in bunches and his presence will also allow for the possible experiment of moving Darren Collison to the second unit in favor of Hill. Collison would be dangerous as the “backup” point guard, bringing extreme speed against either a tired starter or less-talented reserve. The Brazilian Blur would then fill Hill’s current role as the main scorer off the bench while helping them kill zone defenses. He becomes Indiana’s third or fourth best perimeter shooter behind Danny Granger, Paul George and Hill.

The deal is low risk, but didn’t fill two needs that were perhaps more pressing. The Pacers could use another point guard and a big man to create traditional offense with the second unit. Kaman would have filled the latter role perfectly, but that is neither here nor there at this point.

Barbosa is a guard and may have played the point at times in Toronto and Phoenix, but he’s really a small off-guard, as is Hill. Aside from an offensive punch (the Pacers could use one as they average 104.3 points per 100 possessions, ranked 15th in the NBA), he won’t add a completely new dynamic to the team.

Can he help you win a few games by making some big shots? Absolutely, but he’ll be a defensively liability against bigger two guards, which he’ll face often as the Pacers battle for position in the Eastern Conference.

Jose Calderon would have been a nice fit, but he is owed more than $10 million in 12-13, making him undesirable to Indiana.

Grade for the Pacers: B-

It’s a very good sign that they were not only in position to “buy” at the deadline, but also that ownership signed off on adding salary for the stretch run. They put themselves in position to make such a move and the players have matured enough to warrant some kind of help.

Barbosa isn’t going to put Indiana in the same conversation as Miami and Chicago, but he’ll provide some short-term help without any long-term consequences.

Grade for the Raptors: A

Toronto got someone to take Barbosa (and Carter) off their hands without taking back any salary at all, while getting a second-round pick in return. It’s an added bonus that they can use the reported $7.6 million trade exception to add a player with a long-term commitment via trade over the next 12 months.

[spreedom]

Re: Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

I'm guessing we took Carter off their hands as a favor so they wouldn't have to pay him to sit and not play. Definitely worth it to get Barbosa.

Has anyone heard anything about us buying out/waiving Carter? I heard that the Rockets are interested in him so I assume that it's a formality or almost done.

[BornReady]

Re: Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

I'm guessing we took Carter off their hands as a favor so they wouldn't have to pay him to sit and not play. Definitely worth it to get Barbosa.

Has anyone heard anything about us buying out/waiving Carter? I heard that the Rockets are interested in him so I assume that it's a formality or almost done.

I'm fairly certain we didn't get Carter. Toronto waived him.

[BillS]

Re: Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

and what hole does he fill ? he PG ? nope, he PF ? nope, he C ? nope

usefull ? like a hand of sand in the desert

Two words - SCOR RING.

Currently we don't have ANYONE on this team, Hill included, who can punch through a team-wide scoring slump. Keep Barbosa on the bench, play him for short stretches when the offense is stagnant, then put your defensive guys back in the game after a breather. Not every player on the team has to have 15 minutes per game to be effective.

[QUOTE=Sookie;1398973(If the Pacers do this) It's another thing to continuously bench him when he's earned his minutes and makes the team better. But now the team is stuck. We aren't benching DC, and although Hill and Barbosa are beyond redundant, you kind of have to play a 12 ppg scorer. Even though, the end result is likely to actually hurt the second unit.[/QUOTE]

AJ has shown he can play but what he has is not what we need at times. He isn't some lights-out scorer who can create his own shot or passer who can be counted on to hit the other scorers in rhythm when they are wide open.

If Barbosa reduces AJ's minutes I think it will be minimal, and I'd even see them on the floor together rather than DC with Barbosa or Hill at PG with Barbosa.

I suspect this will come out of DC's minutes, even if DC still starts. I imagine we won't see DC on the floor at the end of any kind of close game.

[Ratking]

Re: Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears: Pacers acquiring Barbosa

I love his mentality. Plays for the pride of his country. Can't beat that motivation. With that said, worst 2k shooting form.