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  • Justin Tyme
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 13491

    #46
    Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

    Originally posted by Bball

    Too bad that's not what he is currently.
    Your retort was less damning than what I was going to say, so I'll just go with yours.

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    • bballpacen
      PG is not a 4
      • Aug 2006
      • 1231

      #47
      Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

      I think that he should be suspended from posting for a month or so...
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      • Justin Tyme
        Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 13491

        #48
        Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

        Originally posted by Eleazar
        Considering the timing I think fatigue is the biggest factor. It always seems to be about a month after the season starts that he begins to struggle.

        Then why over pay him to fade?

        No one has mentioned Gortat. I'd rather have him AND HIS CONTRACT at 6.8 mil than Hibbert. "If Hibbert continues his poor play the rest of the season", he isn't worth much more than 7-8 mil a year, and that's high for a b/u center or a center you can't count on due to his fading every year.

        Gortat 16/10.6

        Hibbert 12.8/9

        If there was a way to trade Hibbert plus whatever reasonable for Gortat, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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        • Dgreenwell3
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1456

          #49
          Originally posted by Justin Tyme
          Then why over pay him to fade?

          No one has mentioned Gortat. I'd rather have him AND HIS CONTRACT at 6.8 mil than Hibbert. "If Hibbert continues his poor play the rest of the season", he isn't worth much more than 7-8 mil a year, and that's high for a b/u center or a center you can't count on due to his fading every year.

          Gortat 16/10.6

          Hibbert 12.8/9

          If there was a way to trade Hibbert plus whatever reasonable for Gortat, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
          Gortat has Steve "I make every big that plays with me so much better than they are" Nash

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          • Hoop
            PG who Points
            • Jan 2004
            • 6098

            #50
            Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

            Originally posted by Dgreenwell3
            Gortat has Steve "I make every big that plays with me so much better than they are" Nash
            Nash may get him a basket or 2 a game, but he doesn't help him play D or rebound.

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            • Peck
              Administrator
              • Jan 2004
              • 19953

              #51
              Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

              Originally posted by Dgreenwell3
              Gortat has Steve "I make every big that plays with me so much better than they are" Nash
              True but Gortat is good no matter what the point guard is. Not saying that he isn't also being elevated but Gortat is no scrub without him.


              Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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              • Gamble1
                Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 7257

                #52
                Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                Originally posted by Justin Tyme
                Then why over pay him to fade?

                No one has mentioned Gortat. I'd rather have him AND HIS CONTRACT at 6.8 mil than Hibbert. "If Hibbert continues his poor play the rest of the season", he isn't worth much more than 7-8 mil a year, and that's high for a b/u center or a center you can't count on due to his fading every year.

                Gortat 16/10.6

                Hibbert 12.8/9

                If there was a way to trade Hibbert plus whatever reasonable for Gortat, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
                Gortat would be great but they won't trade him unless you take back a terrible long term contract which nullifies his contract value. Childress is the guy I am thinking of but I agree. Right now I would take Gortat over Hibbert.

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                • CableKC
                  Member
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 36687

                  #53
                  Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                  Originally posted by Gamble1
                  Gortat would be great but they won't trade him unless you take back a terrible long term contract which nullifies his contract value. Childress is the guy I am thinking of but I agree. Right now I would take Gortat over Hibbert.
                  If the Pacers had the option to take back any of their long-term contracts...I'd take back Jared Dudley Despite it being WAY longer ( $4.25 mil PER Year until the 2014-2015 season ) but is paid less overall ( $6.5 to $7.3 mil per year until the 2013-2014 season ).......he's a way better "jack of all trades" than Childress is. On top of that...he's younger and will still be in his prime when his contract is up.
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                  • D-BONE
                    Peace Dog
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 15651

                    #54
                    Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                    I'd look to trade Roy if we can swing a difference maker - Rondo, Gasol, Gortat. Apologies but I just don't think we can expect more out of Roy than borderline starter/glorified backup. We know he'll likely never be able to play significant minutes or be very consistent.

                    EDIT: Of course, I don't know if any of those guys are realistic for him.
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                    • Justin Tyme
                      Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13491

                      #55
                      Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                      Originally posted by CableKC
                      If the Pacers had the option to take back any of their long-term contracts...I'd take back Jared Dudley Despite it being WAY longer ( $4.25 mil PER Year until the 2014-2015 season ) but is paid less overall ( $6.5 to $7.3 mil per year until the 2013-2014 season ).......he's a way better "jack of all trades" than Childress is. On top of that...he's younger and will still be in his prime when his contract is up.

                      Dudley is a starter, Childress is a mistake. I'd have to believe to get Gortat you'd have to take Childress off their hands.

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                      • BlueNGold
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 32249

                        #56
                        Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                        Roy is incredibly frustrating at the moment. It seems to me that he's not far from being a dominant C, but it's hard to say if he will actually get there. Mind boggling.

                        Anyway, for someone his size and potential...a guy only 25 years old and clearly still growing into his body...he'd have to get at least 12M/yr. But signing that deal is not going to be that easy. We don't know if he'll be any better in 5 years than he is right now...and that wouldn't be nearly good enough.

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                        • graphic-er
                          I'm on a MAC!
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 12375

                          #57
                          Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                          Originally posted by Justin Tyme
                          Dudley is a starter, Childress is a mistake. I'd have to believe to get Gortat you'd have to take Childress off their hands.
                          As I have been touting for about 2 weeks now. Gortat is exactly the type of player the Pacers need. No more bogging the offense down trying to feed the low post.

                          The suns have to realize that Nash is going to bolt in FA, he is just being respectful.

                          DC+Hibbert+1st for Nash + Gortat + 2nd.

                          Suns get to rebuild, and Pacers get a stop gap at Point and one of the best centers in the game.
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                          • ECKrueger
                            Boilermaker (TJL)
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 6098

                            #58
                            Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                            Originally posted by graphic-er
                            As I have been touting for about 2 weeks now. Gortat is exactly the type of player the Pacers need. No more bogging the offense down trying to feed the low post.

                            The suns have to realize that Nash is going to bolt in FA, he is just being respectful.

                            DC+Hibbert+1st for Nash + Gortat + 2nd.

                            Suns get to rebuild, and Pacers get a stop gap at Point and one of the best centers in the game.
                            Sad as I would be, I think I would have to do that.

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                            • speakout4
                              Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3710

                              #59
                              Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                              It's not just a funk but his skills don't match up against certain athletic or stronger players who have even lesser skills. His balance always seems to be problematical in that he is easily pushed around.

                              He is a great shot blocker but for some reason can't jump to pull down rebounds.

                              Roy is not a max player but perhaps a 9-10 M guy. to gauge his value we need to know what teams are offering for him.

                              This team will live and die on the backs of DG and PG for the next few years

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                              • vnzla81
                                Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 68174

                                #60
                                Re: What are we going to do with Hibbert?

                                Ok so I came up with a trade that could help NO and Indiana:

                                NO gets: Roy Hibbert+ DC+Tyler+picks

                                Indiana gets: Okafor+ Jack+ EJ.

                                Pacers starting unit: JJ,PG,DG,West,Okafor

                                Second unit: DC,EJ,Hill,Lou,Pen. Who says no to this trade?
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