Heat/Pacers postgame thread

[cdash]

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Is it illogical to expect a team's best player to not be the worst player on the floor?

Is it illogical to expect a power forward to shoot better than 35% from the field?

Is it illogical to expect a point guard to get his teammates involved in the offense, and at least pretend to give a damn on the defensive end?

Is it illogical to expect a guy who as been overpaid multiple times by the same team to suit up for a game every now and then?

1) No. But you clearly have it out for Granger, and have for a long time. You slam him every chance you get, and that isn't only saved for stinkers like tonight.

2) No, we both know he won't continue to shoot that poorly, and supposedly he is playing with an injured hand. May have something to do with it, I don't know, but the sample size is small and he will get better.

3) No, but DC has been much better this season, on both sides of the ball. Probably been our most consistent player, which you wouldn't know, because evidently tonight was the first game you have watched all season.

4) If the guy is hurt, he's hurt. He's a valuable rotation player when he's not, and why throw him out there early in the season if he's not 100%? Are players not allowed to rest or nurse injuries? The guy has been a pro for his entire career with the team and is very valuable when he plays.

[Mr_Smith]

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wasn't able to watch the game tonight but saw the score....what the HELL happened???

[wintermute]

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Is it illogical to expect a team's best player to not be the worst player on the floor?

Is it illogical to expect a power forward to shoot better than 35% from the field?

FWIW, I agree that these are valid criticisms.

Is it illogical to expect a point guard to get his teammates involved in the offense, and at least pretend to give a damn on the defensive end?

Is it illogical to expect a guy who as been overpaid multiple times by the same team to suit up for a game every now and then?

Collison is much improved this season (to my surprise). Certainly he shouldn't be lumped with Granger or Hans right now.

As for Foster, well injuries happen. Surely management knew he had a bad back when they re-signed him. Are you saying he's milking his injury?

[Willbo]

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I'm not even worried. This isn't the same team you will see later this season. It just isn't. I'm not one to put blinders on either. We have more talent on this team than we've had in years. Granger, who was supposedly an all-star scored 6 points on 2-13 or something. It was a bad game and bad games happen. Granger, as bad as he is, isn't that bad...[/QUOTE

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FG5 Stats seem to indicate a downward trend. Dosn't really give me hope that he is going to miraculously turn it around any time soon.

You think its bad now. Wait till 2032-33 when we fail to make a basket.

[spazzxb]

Oh yes. Mackey has an irrational hatred for most of the players, but actually has some logic behind his posts when they aren't involving the awful Granger/Hansbrough/Collison/Foster foursome.

he was making fun of lance getting hurt to.

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[vnzla81]

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wasn't able to watch the game tonight but saw the score....what the HELL happened???

Nothing happened, we just could not hit our shots, everybody looked good and I don't think we need to worry about anything, Lebron was also playing out of his mind and that never happens so next time we should be ok

[Mackey_Rose]

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FWIW, I agree that these are valid criticisms.

Collison is much improved this season (to my surprise). Certainly he shouldn't be lumped with Granger or Hans right now.

As for Foster, well injuries happen. Surely management knew he had a bad back when they re-signed him. Are you saying he's milking his injury?

I haven't gotten to see any games until tonight because I was on vacation, but Collison did not look improved tonight. Chalmers won the point guard matchup by a wide margin, and Cole was better as well. Hopefully, tonight was just a bad game, but he was at least the 3rd best player at his position tonight.

If Foster wanted to be playing, he would be playing. The fact that the front office knew about his back just makes his contract even more perplexing.

[ECKrueger]

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Nothing happened, we just could not hit our shots, everybody looked good and I don't think we need to worry about anything, Lebron was also playing out of his mind and that never happens so next time we should be ok

Nobody thinks it is ok that we got demolished, my goodness. We just don't think we are the worst team in the East now.

[BlueNGold]

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One thing I seriously wonder is if Collison can be "an extension of the coach" on the floor. Really, the issue with this team is its ability to execute the offense. This doesn't take a great amount of skill. It takes practice, a willingness to share the ball and simply a lot of hard work. This is the problem. It can be solved. But still, I do worry about our PG situation. It's not terrible but everything starts right there. We need to see if one of them can adequately get the offensive flow started.

[Pacer Fan]

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One thing I seriously wonder is if Collison can be "an extension of the coach" on the floor. Really, the issue with this team is its ability to execute the offense. This doesn't take a great amount of skill. It takes practice, a willingness to share the ball and simply a lot of hard work. This is the problem. It can be solved. But still, I do worry about our PG situation. It's not terrible but everything starts right there. We need to see if one of them can adequately get the offensive flow started.

I want to agree with some of this, but I don't see DC doing a bad job, unless he actually don't call a play and he is suppose to. That I can't answer, cause who knows what he does to call a play. I just see a stagnant offense about 40% of the time while DC is running point. When he isn't in, it's void, pretty much post moves, jump shots and attempt to get their own shots.

[El Pacero]

Mackey, this wasn't a game to judge anything on imo. I think DC has definitely improved over last season.

[Ownagedood]

Look at the brightside.... we're not down 63-20 in the third quarter of a FOOTBALL game

[vnzla81]

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Nobody thinks it is ok that we got demolished, my goodness. We just don't think we are the worst team in the East now.

Find me a post where I say that we are the worst team? My prediction is 8th seed and that looks about right.

[imawhat]

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Miami is the last team in the league that you play zone against.

[vnzla81]

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Miami is the last team in the league that you play zone against.

Atlanta disagrees with this statement.