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  • PacersPride
    Banned
    • Jun 2010
    • 4164

    #1

    head coaching position

    I really like Vogel and think he has a bright future in this league down the road. Not sure he is the right fit though for the Indiana Pacers at this time. What I mean by this is, we have several young players and right now we need an established coach who can teach these young guys the game. Vogel would be more ideally suited for a veteran team.

    Therefore, i have a two-fold question here:

    1) Who is a specific coach you are hoping will be considered or even hired for the Pacers next year?

    2) What type of coach are you hoping is hired, ie. a fast break 3pt shooting type of coach, balanced inside-out, defensive, offensive coach???

    I will add a few coaching candidates im hoping to see considered, but feel welcome to add your own if you have a few in mind.

    I will allow the multi-vote option for this poll.
    130
    Frank Vogel
    17.69%
    23
    Mike Brown
    31.54%
    41
    Jeff Van Gundy
    9.23%
    12
    Lawrence Frank (PacersPride)
    9.23%
    12
    Mark Jackson (PacersPride)
    8.46%
    11
    Whoever the front office picks. (Will Galen)
    4.62%
    6
    Undecided (Eleazar)
    6.15%
    8
    rick adelman (xIndyFan)
    3.08%
    4
    Mike Woodson (Scot Pollard)
    3.85%
    5
    Nate McMillen (PacersPride)
    2.31%
    3
    ME!!!! (pacer4ever)
    0.77%
    1
    Chuck Conners Person (QuickRelease)
    3.08%
    4
    Last edited by PacersPride; 03-05-2011, 05:58 PM.
  • cdash
    Whale Shepherd
    • Jun 2009
    • 32259

    #2
    Re: head coaching position

    I like Mike Brown, Jeff Van Gundy (which isn't going to happen), and Kevin McHale. Not entirely opposed to Bill Laimbeer.

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    • PacersPride
      Banned
      • Jun 2010
      • 4164

      #3
      Re: head coaching position

      your right, VanGundy isnt really an option, and i hope Laimbeer is not hired here, nvr really liked that guy much.

      though i will admit, i like the style he brings. hoping for a defensive minded coach. i really like Rick Calisles style of coaching, maybe too much micromanaging but i cant blame the guy with that group.

      i think mike brown is the obvious hire for next season.

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      • BringJackBack
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 8601

        #4
        Re: head coaching position

        I have a hunch that if we picked up Mike Brown he would get annoying.. He would do stupid things that Obie would do like mess up rotations, not play the young guys, play guys like Posey and TJ for no reason, etc..

        I don't know why I have this hunch, but I do.

        I've somewhat softened by stance on Vogel because he won't start George and he has Brandon/Mike playing too many minutes. On top of that I just think that he has too much trust in our guys to a point that it kind of costs us. For example, in the GSW game he put the starters back in and they blew the lead, yet he still closed with them. It worked out in our favor, but if we were playing a good team it wouldn't have. I will be mad if he's not back, but I won't go ape **** like I would have about 8 games ago.

        JVG and Mark Jackson are not options and I have no clue about Bill. I don't want Lawrence Frank either as he just isn't a sexy choice at all. He wouldn't help us at all.. Just a guy to plug a hole.
        Last edited by BringJackBack; 03-05-2011, 06:20 PM.

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        • Bball
          Jimmy did what Jimmy did
          • Jan 2004
          • 26985

          #5
          Re: head coaching position

          Vogel with some solid assistants on the bench is intriguing to me. It's too early to make the hire though. We need to see the summer landscape.
          Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

          ------

          "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

          -John Wooden

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          • Will Galen
            Pacer Junky
            • Jan 2004
            • 10308

            #6
            Re: head coaching position

            I'm for who ever the front office picks.

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            • Spirit
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 1272

              #7
              Re: head coaching position

              Anyone but Mike Brown. Dude doesn't coach, he just sits and watches.

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              • PacersPride
                Banned
                • Jun 2010
                • 4164

                #8
                Re: head coaching position

                Originally posted by Bball
                Vogel with some solid assistants on the bench is intriguing to me. It's too early to make the hire though. We need to see the summer landscape.
                Thats a good idea as well. I realize its early, but the glaring weakness this team seems to have is experience across the board.

                Im not sold on Mike Brown at all, but i can see the FO taking a look at him since he was an assistant for Carlisle and reportedly well respected within the organization.

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                • The Jackson shimmy
                  Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 164

                  #9
                  Re: head coaching position

                  I voted for Mike Brown and here's why. He's respected by today's NBA
                  players (well, other than LBJ, who doesn't really allow himself to 'be
                  coached' by anyone).

                  I'm not and have never really been a big Granger fan. But it appears
                  he's here to stay. Assuming so, Brown is a guy I can see getting
                  Granger to play his arse off and meet his potential in every area
                  of the game.

                  If he's gonna be the Pacers' lead dog, we need a HC who can get the
                  most out of him.

                  That aside, Brown is a very good defensive coach. He's weaker on the
                  offensive end, but a strong, offensive lead assistant can balance that
                  out.

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                  • Eleazar
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 13839

                    #10
                    Re: head coaching position

                    I'm not sold on anyone at this point. My only opinion is that Vogel should be guaranteed an interview and should be taken seriously as the future head coach. He has done enough in my opinion to earn that right.

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                    • PacersPride
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 4164

                      #11
                      Re: head coaching position

                      if Nate McMillen became available this offseason I would add him to the list as well.

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                      • Spirit
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1272

                        #12
                        Re: head coaching position

                        Originally posted by Eleazar
                        I'm not sold on anyone at this point. My only opinion is that Vogel should be guaranteed an interview and should be taken seriously as the future head coach. He has done enough in my opinion to earn that right.
                        It's not his fault this team has been losing. We need to improve the roster.

                        PS: Before anyone says "how is it not Vogel's fault, when you say it was O'Brien's?", we all knew that his style would never work. Vogel is letting the players play the way they want, and it is a good strategy. Plus, players like him. Not so much for O'Brien.

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                        • LA_Confidential
                          The Nite Owl
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1821

                          #13
                          Re: head coaching position

                          Vogel with better talent on the roster.

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                          • Bball
                            Jimmy did what Jimmy did
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 26985

                            #14
                            Re: head coaching position

                            Originally posted by Will Galen
                            I'm for who ever the front office picks.
                            After seeing the prior choice of O'Brien, and the length of time they stuck with him, I'm not inclined to blindly and automatically believe they will make the proper choice.

                            A decision as bad as O'Brien deserves to haunt Bird et al... for a while.
                            Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

                            ------

                            "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

                            -John Wooden

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                            • Scot Pollard
                              Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2458

                              #15
                              Re: head coaching position

                              Either Mike Woodson or Frank Vogel.

                              I don't know if I can trust anyone anymore.

                              Vogel does what I want as far as keeping the rotations good.

                              We need a teacher coach and I think coach Woody would be perfect.
                              In 49 states it's just basketball, but this is Indiana!

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