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  • Re: 2011 Prospect Scouting Thread

    Originally posted by tflo View Post
    I am coming in a little late on this post. But I have heard that Jimmer Fredette is probably going to be taken around the fifteenth or sixteenth postition. MAN!!!! I hope to get him on our team! He can shoot lights out!
    We would be crazy not to pick him if he was available at the fifteenth postion.

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      This Biyamobo kid's putting on a show in the Hoop Summit. 10/10 with 9 blocks a couple minutes to go. Really has no clue how to play offense but he's 18, wouldn't mind us taking him at all.

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        A triple-double...

        12 points (5-7)
        11 rebounds (7 off.)
        10 blocks
        28 minutes

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          John Hollinger's tweet:

          "I tried to Tweet something but Biyombo blocked it."



          At this point, Biyombo isn't a guy who looks like he's going to be a star PF. But if it's shotblocking, rebounding, and physical play that you want, then he could be your guy. And honestly I think that's what the Pacers need.

          There's a lot of hype around him now, but I think that lack of star potential would mean that he gets drafted around late teens/early twenties rather than lottery. But who knows. Saer Sene (who IMO was nowhere as good as Biyombo is now) was drafted 10th in his draft year.

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            Really would like us to pick up Trey Thompkins from Georgia.

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              Originally posted by Wylder1324 View Post
              Dont see many of you guys mentioning Alec Burks…..he has/is all over the draft boards….but if he is there, or we can move into position to nab him I love his potential at SG with Paul at SF.
              Thing that I hear about burks is that they aren't as interested in Wings that cant shoot.

              Originally posted by tflo View Post
              I am coming in a little late on this post. But I have heard that Jimmer Fredette is probably going to be taken around the fifteenth or sixteenth postition. MAN!!!! I hope to get him on our team! He can shoot lights out!
              Yeah he can shoot lights out, I think that Offense isn't as much of our problem as defense is though for the pacers, and he would just add more bad defense to this team.
              I guess it depends on what other options are there. Another question is would he be allowed the freedom to take as many shots as he does now, and as frequently as he does now in the NBA. Can he play a s a role player or only the primary option?

              Originally posted by wintermute View Post
              John Hollinger's tweet:

              "I tried to Tweet something but Biyombo blocked it."



              At this point, Biyombo isn't a guy who looks like he's going to be a star PF. But if it's shotblocking, rebounding, and physical play that you want, then he could be your guy. And honestly I think that's what the Pacers need.

              There's a lot of hype around him now, but I think that lack of star potential would mean that he gets drafted around late teens/early twenties rather than lottery. But who knows. Saer Sene (who IMO was nowhere as good as Biyombo is now) was drafted 10th in his draft year.
              I think he has Star Potential he excites people with all of his blocking ability, lol just look at the tweet. But his offense will be limited as far as range atleast it is now, but he scores down low very well.

              And wondering if you heard the differences that they have made about comparing him and Sene? Do you follow draft express on twitter as well just wonder?
              Why so SERIOUS

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              • Re: 2011 Prospect Scouting Thread

                Originally posted by Really? View Post
                And wondering if you heard the differences that they have made about comparing him and Sene? Do you follow draft express on twitter as well just wonder?
                Yup I do follow DX. BrushWithDeath earlier in this thread also mentioned the Sene comparison. I don't know what others are saying, but it seems to me that Biyombo playing in a top Euro league separates him from Sene quite a bit. The Hoop Summit performance is just icing on the cake. In contrast, Sene made his name primarily off great individual workouts.

                Seems like nearly every post I've made recently is about Biyombo. I don't mean to bang his drum and I don't have any special knowledge but it does seem like he fits the Pacers' needs very well. So he's very intriguing to me.

                So, another article about Bismack

                http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...mit/index.html

                U.S. team shines, but World squad intrigues at Nike Hoop Summit

                PORTLAND, Ore. -- So how old is this Bismack Biyombo, the African triple-double prodigy who may be in the NBA next season?

                "A lot of time people are saying I can't be so young, that I am much older,'' said Biyombo, the 6-foot-9, 243-pound forward/center from Congo who is listed as 18 years old. "It is not the first time I hear this, but I really don't care.''

                Biyombo produced the first triple-double ever seen at the Nike Hoop Summit on Saturday, with 12 points (5-of-7 from the field), 11 rebounds and an astonishing 10 blocks in the World Select Team's 92-80 loss to the U.S. Junior National Select Team. The internationals arrived with more size, but the Americans performed as if they were the taller team thanks to their superior athleticism and teamwork. They've been playing together in international competitions, and their cohesion was intimidating from the opening minute. The World players were alarmed by the speed of the game and were forced to hurry their shots against the fast-closing American defenders.

                Team USA ran out to a 20-12 lead while blocking six shots and holding the visitors to 3-of-21 shooting (14.3 percent) in the opening quarter. Duke-bound guard Austin Rivers (son of Celtics coach Doc) continued to make a name for himself by going 7-of-11 (3-of-4 from 3-point range) for a game-high 20 points, while the frontcourt play of future Wildcats Anthony Davis (16 points, 10 rebounds) and Michael Gilchrist (16 points and five blocks) suggested that Kentucky will be back in championship contention next season.

                All 10 of the players on Team USA are headed to major college programs, and many of them will be drafted in the NBA lottery over the next couple of years. Of more immediate concern to the dozens of NBA scouts in attendance were several members of the World squad who could be in the draft this June.

                Chief among them was Biyombo, who exploited his 7-7 wingspan and the most NBA-ready body on the floor. After a disappointing first quarter, the visitors adapted as Biyombo asserted himself defensively and Polish guard Mateusz Ponitka (who scored a team-leading 17 points) attacked the basket. "He runs the floor, he defends and he's cat-quick,'' said an NBA scout of Biyombo. "His offensive skills need to be developed, but his athleticism screams out.''

                "He's Ben Wallace, basically,'' said another NBA executive.

                The NBA evaluators spent the week guessing at Biyombo's age as they attended the World Team's practices. A half-dozen NBA scouts and executives told me they believed Biyombo was older than his listed age of 18, based not only on his mature body but also his leadership skills, as he led the Internationals through their pre-practice stretches and was their most vocal and energetic player. Questions of his age won't necessarily damage his stock in the draft, as his maturity will be viewed as strength. He is forecasted as a first-round pick with a chance to sneak into the lottery.

                When I asked him Thursday how long he had been playing basketball, he postponed the discussion. "I can say that at this time I prefer to focus on the Nike week,'' he said with a grin. "So I will be around here after the game and I'll let people know everything they want to know, and people will question me everything they want to question and I give the answer.''

                On Saturday he said he had been playing basketball since he was 12, both on an outdoor court near his home as well as on an indoor floor at his high school.

                He began his professional career in Yemen in 2009, and then moved to the Spanish fourth division in 2009-10. He quickly worked his way up to Spain's ACB, the top national league in Europe, where he is currently averaging 6.4 points, 5.1 rebounds and 2.3 blocks in 14 games with the club Fuenlabrada. "The way I play here, I play everywhere,'' he said following the Hoop Summit. "In the ACB I play with a lot of smart guys, I play with a lot of strong guys, and when I step on the court I just want to kill them.''

                Biyombo is a highly engaging character. His favorite NBA players are a couple of All-Star power forwards, Kevin Love and Kevin Garnett. "Kevin Garnett is intense player -- every time he's not on the floor, his team is missing him,'' said Biyombo. "I want to (play) defense as a team. I want to help everybody on my team and I want to win the game ... That's what I heard from my first coach, that the good offense is defense. If I block a lot of shots then it's good offense. If I get a lot of rebounds, then it's good offense.''

                After the game, Biyombo stood in the locker room and thanked his teammates and coaches for the opportunity to spend the week in their company.

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                • Re: 2011 Prospect Scouting Thread

                  If I wanted a poor man's Stephen Curry I would want Jimmer Fredette. Sadly I want defense and players who aren't ballhogs, so no to the Jimmer. Singleton and Bismack are my two favorites. Some great defense seems like what this teams needs. We've got the scorers of the future in George and Granger, the rebounders in Hibbert and Hansbrough, and maybe even Collison can be the distributor on a contender. Defense is the big need. Down low and on the wing. Singleton will be a superb wing defender who can also provide scoring. We've got pieces in place to be a very good team. Singleton would be a huge step towards being up there with the Bulls, Heat, and Knicks in a few years.

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                    Depending on where he goes, I'd like to trade up if necessary to get Bismack. If he's around the range where we are picking, then hopefully we luck out. Bismack sounds like our Dale Davis type of guy we've been wanting.

                    Not gonna get excited till I know who's all going to be in the draft and where they are likely to go.
                    First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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                      Hard to argue with that.
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                      • Re: 2011 Prospect Scouting Thread

                        Originally posted by Wylder1324 View Post
                        Dont see many of you guys mentioning Alec Burks…..he has/is all over the draft boards….but if he is there, or we can move into position to nab him I love his potential at SG with Paul at SF.
                        Originally posted by tflo View Post
                        I am coming in a little late on this post. But I have heard that Jimmer Fredette is probably going to be taken around the fifteenth or sixteenth postition. MAN!!!! I hope to get him on our team! He can shoot lights out!
                        Wow this draft is going to be weird... Super Surprised that Perry Jones is headed back to Baylor...
                        Why so SERIOUS

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                        • Re: 2011 Prospect Scouting Thread

                          Originally posted by Really? View Post
                          Wow this draft is going to be weird... Super Surprised that Perry Jones is headed back to Baylor...
                          He will come out he has too If i was his agent I would make him. He will be a top 5 pick plus he gets to leave that terrible coach at Baylor or plays him out of postion.

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                          • Re: 2011 Prospect Scouting Thread

                            Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
                            He will come out he has too If i was his agent I would make him.
                            If he had an agent, he couldn't be in college.

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                              Kemba's going pro, going to announce it tomorrow. *sniffle*

                              Honestly I wish him well. I was saying all year we'd win it all next season if Kemba would come back. Well we won it all this season. Kemba's graduating. Good for him, he did everything right, and won everything he could possibly win. Now I hope he proves me wrong about his size and the NBA.

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                              • Re: 2011 Prospect Scouting Thread

                                Originally posted by xBulletproof View Post
                                If he had an agent, he couldn't be in college.
                                Ok well his "agent" or I mean "advisor"

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