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  • Peck
    Administrator
    • Jan 2004
    • 20053

    #1

    A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

    I am declaring this a Jim O'Brien free thread.

    U.B. what skill set would you prefer if you could only have one from your point guard.

    Absolute mastery of passing and directing the flow of the game?

    or

    Hard nose defender who disrupts passing lanes and keeps his man from reaching the middle of the lane?

    The point guard is competent at every other skill however he will be master and commander of the skill set you chose from above.

    For these questions you are to assume that this players team mates are good but not great at every other aspect of the game. There is no supreme shot blocker standing in the lane protecting the paint no is there a one on one master shot maker on offense.

    The coach for your team is Uncle Buck so whatever style of play you prefer will be what this team plays.


    Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13
  • pacer4ever
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 17172

    #2
    Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

    PnR like phx runs for steve nash and what NO does with chris paul let them have the ball in thier hands and make the best decsion for the team and make things happen.
    Last edited by pacer4ever; 11-08-2010, 09:07 PM.

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    • Peck
      Administrator
      • Jan 2004
      • 20053

      #3
      Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

      Originally posted by pacer4ever
      PnR like phx runs for steve nash and what NO does with chris paul let them have the ball in thier hands and make the best decsion for the team and make things happen.
      Ok so you prefer a master play maker & director on the floor.

      In your system how important in the point guard on the defensive end?


      Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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      • pacer4ever
        Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 17172

        #4
        Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

        Originally posted by Peck
        Ok so you prefer a master play maker & director on the floor.

        In your system how important in the point guard on the defensive end?
        vital more chris paul then nash lol pressures the ball and hassles the other teams pg. we have a good backup pg 2 lol who is all about defense and running plays to get the ball down low and get high % shots .

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        • Sookie
          Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 8493

          #5
          Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

          Absolute mastery of passing and dircting the flow of the game. Very easy decision for me.

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          • flox
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 2426

            #6
            Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

            The master play maker and director, although my ideal preference would be master scorer and attacker- to me currently in this league an ideal offense would have a very strong, ball dominant, elite scorer who handles the ball and looks for his shot first, followed by creating either with his offensive attempts and such.

            Think of a Tony Parker, Aaron Brooks type. An elite version of Aaron Brooks with super speed, 3 point shooting, and aggressive ball handling would be my ideal point guard- and Aaron Brooks may achieve that yet.

            Otherwise, I feel like a poor defensive point guard can be hid better than a poor offensive director- and an offensive director that can control who the ball goes to, who has the ball all the time and executes the offense perfectly, is much more important.

            In this case I would assume I would have a decent scoring guard (Salmons?), an average small forward (Deng?), a decent power forward (Scola?) and a decent center (Kaman?)

            I need to think about my team more- but I would assume that those would be my players?

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            • TinManJoshua
              Member
              • May 2010
              • 1796

              #7
              Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

              Mark Jackson.

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              • IndyPacer
                Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 684

                #8
                Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

                It drives me mad to see a defensibly weak point guard, but if I can have only a lockdown defender or a great floor general, I'd have to pick the floor general for the point guard spot. An exception would be if I had one or two gifted playmakers at other positions on the team (maybe a wing with point guard skills but not enough speed for the traditional point guard spot, for example), in which case I definitely want the lockdown defender for my point guard. I want every position strong defensively, but your whole offense can be stagnant if you don't have a playmaker.

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                • Unclebuck
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 36200

                  #9
                  Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

                  Well since you won't allow me to qualify my selection. As much as I would like to say otherwise, I suppose I would rather have the master of passing and flow of the offense. It is a very close call for me.

                  I always say the point guard is the most important defender on the floor, he sets the tone defensively, but he also does offensively. If u consider the overall impact a player like steve Nash has on the Suns that is much more than whoever the best defensive point guard has (rondo). clarification: nash's offense has more impact than does Rondo's defense.

                  So if it is an either or situation, i have to go for offense at point.

                  ok, now that i answered ur question as asked, if a team has a Kobe, Wade, Lebron, everything I said is null and void. in that case u want a great defender and good shooter, and whether they have any true point guard skills doesn't matter

                  Right now my favorite point guard is Rondo. he has the defense u want. He has the athletism and size he can create shots for teammates. only thing he doesnt have is a great outside shot.
                  Last edited by Unclebuck; 11-08-2010, 09:55 PM.

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                  • Jon Theodore
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                    • Apr 2005
                    • 3375

                    #10
                    Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

                    You guys need to use the PM function of this board for threads like this.
                    *removed* Just keep politics and religion completely out of it, please.

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                    • Trophy
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8557

                      #11
                      Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

                      I think the players are suiting Darren's type of play. The bigger guys are setting picks so he can get by and score.

                      I think the players should set the picks out there for Darren and he needs to not have to rush the ball up the court. That's how we'll become a better team because Darren's able to guide the offense.

                      EDIT: I apologize for that statement before.
                      Last edited by Trophy; 11-08-2010, 11:17 PM.

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                      • 15th parallel
                        Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1485

                        #12
                        Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

                        Directing the flow of the game.

                        The PG is the court general. You want him to be the one controlling and calling the plays, to be the right hand man of the coach to execute the offense and the defense. He doesn't need to be a great fancy passer. He just needs to direct where the players need to be, to be able to optimize his teammates or his own potential, especially to score, whether inside and close to the bucket or an open shot at the corner.

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                        • Hicks
                          Member
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 53117

                          #13
                          Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

                          Originally posted by Jon Theodore
                          You guys need to use the PM function of this board for threads like this.
                          No, they don't. It allows others to chime in for themselves and some of those who don't may at least find this interesting.

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                          • Peck
                            Administrator
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 20053

                            #14
                            Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

                            Originally posted by Unclebuck
                            Well since you won't allow me to qualify my selection. As much as I would like to say otherwise, I suppose I would rather have the master of passing and flow of the offense. It is a very close call for me.

                            I always say the point guard is the most important defender on the floor, he sets the tone defensively, but he also does offensively. If u consider the overall impact a player like steve Nash has on the Suns that is much more than whoever the best defensive point guard has (rondo). clarification: nash's offense has more impact than does Rondo's defense.

                            So if it is an either or situation, i have to go for offense at point.

                            ok, now that i answered ur question as asked, if a team has a Kobe, Wade, Lebron, everything I said is null and void. in that case u want a great defender and good shooter, and whether they have any true point guard skills doesn't matter

                            Right now my favorite point guard is Rondo. he has the defense u want. He has the athletism and size he can create shots for teammates. only thing he doesnt have is a great outside shot.
                            Who is the best defensive p.g. you have ever seen?

                            Conversely who is the best guard you have ever seen for setting up an offense?


                            Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                            • Pacerized
                              Member
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 7900

                              #15
                              Re: A basketball question for Uncle Buck (and whoever else wants to chime in)

                              Originally posted by Peck
                              Who is the best defensive p.g. you have ever seen?

                              Conversely who is the best guard you have ever seen for setting up an offense?
                              If this is still directed at everyone?

                              Off the top of my head Gary Payton in his prime was a great defender.
                              I also thought Mark Jackson was great at setting up the offense more so then just being a great passer.
                              Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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