No player movement-that's fine

[CableKC]

Re: No player movement-that's fine

I disagree. I think Granger has shown that when he is healthy, he can put the team on his back and lead us to some very good victories against top teams. I think if everyone was healthy, we could surprise a lot of people.

That being said, Jim O'Brien is the coach and does not use most of the players in the right way. If we had a good coach, I think we have enough talent that we could surprise a lot of people, as it stands now, we will be in the lottery next year.

I'm a pessimist. With all that we have gone through over the last 6+ years.....I have come to believe that if something can go wrong for the Pacers....something will. To me, that translates into obtaining the same record that we had last season. I'll change my tune next season when we have far more options to improve the Team....but for now.....I'm in the "don't ruin whatever SalaryCap flexibility that we have with a Player that does not make any sense for us in the long-term, get me an acceptable lottery pick and give some minimal minutes to our future core so that we can move on to the 2011-2012 Offseason" camp.

[Jay@Section12]

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My honest opinion is that I don't much care. It's going to be miserable to watch this year but I know it's a lost season anyway, just as I did with the past two seasons. If we actually committed full speed to rebuilding this year, as we should have previously, I'll be perfectly fine with it. If we won 25 games starting Price, Rush, Granger, McRoberts, and Hibbert with George, Stephenson, Hansbrough, and Rolle getting all the bench minutes I would be thrilled.

This.

When they finally admitted to a three-year plan a couple of seasons ago, I knew the next three years would be a waste and I de-invested. Its been even worse than I feared, though, because the coach had continued to play Murphy and to a lesser extent Ford and Foster and I'm not going to waste time watching that, period.

[BRushWithDeath]

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how is this team any worse than last years? i dont think surpassing last years win total will be too much of an issue.

One simple and major reason. The point guard position. Last season we had Watson and A.J. Price.

Right now we have Lance Stephenson and nothing else. A.J. may be able to contribute a month or two into the season but even that isn't a given.

At best, we're the same as we were a season ago if we stand pat.

My honest opinion is that I don't much care. It's going to be miserable to watch this year but I know it's a lost season anyway, just as I did with the past two seasons. If we actually committed full speed to rebuilding this year, as we should have previously, I'll be perfectly fine with it. If we won 25 games starting Price, Rush, Granger, McRoberts, and Hibbert with George, Stephenson, Hansbrough, and Rolle getting all the bench minutes I would be thrilled.

[RWB]

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I thought it meant you carry a big knife?

[PacersPride]

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For the record, I don't know what Crocodile Dundeed means either in this context??? I know who Crocodile Dundee is and I assume the reference is something like saying "Let's just 'Tinsley' his butt"....or "They just Tinsleyed him" (meaning benched or banished) but I don't know what Crocodile Dundee did to understand your reference.

alright.. i thought the guy was simply being a wise guy. basically it means your finished, final, its over, done.

ie. after this season JOB is crocodile dundeed.

[Bball]

Re: No player movement-that's fine

check your thesauraus.. next to your dictionary.

For the record, I don't know what Crocodile Dundeed means either in this context??? I know who Crocodile Dundee is and I assume the reference is something like saying "Let's just 'Tinsley' his butt"....or "They just Tinsleyed him" (meaning benched or banished) but I don't know what Crocodile Dundee did to understand your reference.

[PaceBalls]

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Yep, cuz they're all a bunch of rebounding DEMONS. Of course with our great strength at rebounding, losing our rebounding leader would be a non factor........

I think our rebounding will be better without Murphy. Has there ever been a more fundamentally unsound rebouder? He doesn't box out, he is the ultimate oppurtunist, he gives up every tough rebound to the opposition. He is.... the Rebound Vulture. He flys out of the way against the lions on the offensive boards, but feeds on the defensive free throw rebounds.

Sit his *** down the whole season and we win at least 5 more games, probably more, from better defense and team rebounding.

[PacersPride]

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I have no idea what the underlined phrase means. Could you explain it, PacersPride?

(I do understand that this would be O'Brien's and ford's last year with the Pacers, but I don't know why you use that phrase or why you spell "crocodile" the way you do.)

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check your thesauraus.. next to your dictionary.

[MLB007]

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I can live with most of the roster this season...except Murphy. I want to see our other bigs get adequate pt. We already know what Murphy brings to the table...and it's not enough.

Yep, cuz they're all a bunch of rebounding DEMONS. Of course with our great strength at rebounding, losing our rebounding leader would be a non factor........

[Psyren]

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I can live with most of the roster this season...except Murphy. I want to see our other bigs get adequate pt. We already know what Murphy brings to the table...and it's not enough.

I completely agree. When I look at next years free agent class, I can't say anyone really jumps out and grabs my attention aside from Melo. But there's very very very little chance he comes here.

I don't see any fantastic free agents that make me think they'd improve us a lot. Horford I suppose is a possibility with a S&T, but other than that I could pass on the majority of the FA's.

There are good players, but I don't think any of them at this point are all that likely to come here. And trading Murph now for young talent is easily the best move. We'll still have more than enough cap space to get a few good players in Free Agency next year, but we don't need all the money Murph would allow us to have.

[Trophy]

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Hopefully we can turn out like the Bucks did last season.

Stay in or near the playoff picture for most of the season then pull off a trade at the deadline and get someone who can fit in well with us and we make the playoffs and position ourselves.

After losing Redd last season, the Bucks got Salmons to help fix the SG troubles.

For us, it would probably be a PG or maybe a defensive PF for Troy, Mike, or TJ.

As for the start of the season, I think we'll stay in the 7 or 8th spot in the East or stay close to the 8th spot mainly.

[pwee31]

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I'm fine with it being the same, if Stephenson is the starting PG out of the gate. I don't want Ford starting, though I still Ford can be a solid player, he doesn't fit in w/ what our offense likes to do.

I'm fine with Murphy as long as the rules are the same for everyone when it comes to earning playing time. Not fair if Murphy is struggling and we have Tyler, McRoberts and Rolle being stuck to the bench. I've expected Murphy back this entire time. Even back in the off-season myth poll, I felt that Murphy would not be moved or traded. He's the best trade chip that most are willing to get rid of, it's just our front office values him perhaps higher then humanly possible.

[Anthem]

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I can live with most of the roster this season...except Murphy. I want to see our other bigs get adequate pt. We already know what Murphy brings to the table...and it's not enough.

Agreed. He's also the guy most likely to have trade value... move him, let the rest expire.

[Shade]

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I can live with most of the roster this season...except Murphy. I want to see our other bigs get adequate pt. We already know what Murphy brings to the table...and it's not enough.

[Shade]

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If everyone stays healthy I think we could win 4-8 games.

I fixed your typo.