If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

[Infinite MAN_force]

This isn't a trade proposal really, just curious what people's thoughts are. Hopefully this is ok to be on the main forum where more people will see it.

I never felt like this was even a remote possibility until after this draft, but I wonder if a big "upside" guy like Paul George might tip the scale. Perhaps a deal centered around George and Hibbert, Future firsts, and maybe a couple of our other young pieces.

The only reason I think this might even be possible is because of our wealth of expiring contracts, and their appeal to a team that would probably be looking at a full rebuild if they traded Paul. Especially a team that might be looking to cut payroll to eventually sell the team.

We are in a position that we could take on Paul, Okafur, And James Posey's contracts with our expirings. Is there any other team in the league that could do this? Are we in a somewhat unique position here?

The idea of teaming up Granger and Paul is pretty exciting, and the other big contracts we would be getting would all be solid vet contributers, as opposed to just being dead weight contracts.

Thoughts?

[pig norton]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

I don't think we have the ability to trade for Paul, but if we do, we'd have to give up Danny.

[Gamble1]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

We are in a position that we could take on Paul, Okafur, And James Posey's contracts with our expirings. Is there any other team in the league that could do this? Are we in a somewhat unique position here?

The idea of teaming up Granger and Paul is pretty exciting, and the other big contracts we would be getting would all be solid vet contributers, as opposed to just being dead weight contracts.

Thoughts?

I think they would want Granger in with the deal along with 2 future first. I can't see how NO deals Paul but if they do they have to get a all star back for him.

Edit: PiG got to it first but I agree.

[CooperManning]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

We have no shot at Paul, sadly.

[Magic P]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

If we could get Paul without giving up Granger or George i would do something gay to Larry Bird.

[woowoo]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

I would like to have him, but I would not give up the ranch to get him. Maybe a couple of the young guys and a first... maybe an expiring contract.

CP has been hurt a little too often for my taste....

[imawhat]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

If Paul is tradeable, then we definitely have the pieces. The only reason he gets moved is financial. They can take a future first, rights to Lorbek, an expiring and filleR. Heck, I'd give 2-3 expirings and take back Posey/Okafor to get Paul.

[idioteque]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

Any trade involving Granger would be tantamount to rearranging the deck chairs for us. We could probably do it, but I don't see a point unless Granger is not involved.

[Infinite MAN_force]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

I don't think we have the ability to trade for Paul, but if we do, we'd have to give up Danny.

I think the only way it makes sense is if we are teaming up Granger and Paul.

If NO is truly looking to rebuild and cut salary, they might not want Granger's contract anyway. I think they may be looking to sell.

[Gamble1]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

I think the only way it makes sense is if we are teaming up Granger and Paul.

IT all depends on what you think of Paul George. Is he Granger or better and can you wait for him to develop like Granger.

One thing is for sure Paul makes average players look good.

[Peck]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

I am still operating under the assumption that we have no chance in hell of getting Chris Paul.

However with Shin wanting to dump salary and is not worried about winning in the near future I could see him maybe biting at some of our expirings.

I posted this trade idea in another thread and I still think it would be the best that we could offer (without throwing in Hibbert or Granger). Now the great caveate to this is that under no normal circumstance would any sane owner or G.M. go for this. However if they are wanting to sell the team and shed salary then this may be the type of trade they would look at as this gives them a decent young cheap player, a first round pick and two big expirings and takes an albatross contract off of thier hands.

BTW, this does work per ESPN's trade checker.

Troy Murphy
T.J. Ford
Brandon Rush
1st round pick
2nd round pick

to New Orleans for

Chris Paul
Omeka Okafor

You could also still throw in a McBob or Tyler with that to sweeten the deal. Or if they demanded it you could exchange Roy for Brandon, yea for Chris Paul you would have to be willing to do that.

[Infinite MAN_force]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

I am still operating under the assumption that we have no chance in hell of getting Chris Paul.

However with Shin wanting to dump salary and is not worried about winning in the near future I could see him maybe biting at some of our expirings.

I posted this trade idea in another thread and I still think it would be the best that we could offer (without throwing in Hibbert or Granger). Now the great caveate to this is that under no normal circumstance would any sane owner or G.M. go for this. However if they are wanting to sell the team and shed salary then this may be the type of trade they would look at as this gives them a decent young cheap player, a first round pick and two big expirings and takes an albatross contract off of thier hands.

BTW, this does work per ESPN's trade checker.

Troy Murphy
T.J. Ford
Brandon Rush
1st round pick
2nd round pick

to New Orleans for

Chris Paul
Omeka Okafor

You could also still throw in a McBob or Tyler with that to sweeten the deal. Or if they demanded it you could exchange Roy for Brandon, yea for Chris Paul you would have to be willing to do that.

We have enough expirings to take on Posey too. Hell if they are truly insane, we could even take on David West. We could eliminate all of their long term salary in one fell swoop.

My thinking is, I don't know if there is another team in the league that could do this. Everyone else cleared space for free agency this year, and we are the one team with a ton of contracts that expire next year.

In fantasy land... if they threw in David West, I would throw every single available asset we have except Granger. We could trade for NO's entire veteran core + Granger. Thats an instant title contender.

How serious are these guys about cutting salary? If they are, they need to be talking to us.

[woowoo]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

We have enough expirings to take on Posey too. Hell if they are truly insane, we could even take on David West. We could eliminate all of their long term salary in one fell swoop.

My thinking is, I don't know if there is another team in the league that could do this. Everyone else cleared space for free agency this year, and we are the one team with a ton of contracts that expire next year.

In fantasy land... if they threw in David West, I would throw every single available asset we have except Granger. We could trade for NO's entire veteran core + Granger. Thats an instant title contender.

How serious are these guys about cutting salary? If they are, they need to be talking to us.

Did anyone watch that FA special last night on ESPN? The GM they had on brought up some good points about this years FA class and the upcoming ones. The next CBA will be "very different" and some teams that are getting ready to take on "huge" contracts may be in for a big world of financial hurt. Because he luxury tax is expected to double and maybe even triple per dollar.

He said the Pacers were in "fantastic" shape heading into next year because all of their expiring contracts. He stated that this year is a great FA year but in the future the teams may regret signing all these max players.

For this reason I think the Pacers will hold onto at least 2 of their expiring contracts, and see what happens with the CBA next season.

[Infinite MAN_force]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

Did anyone watch that FA special last night on ESPN? The GM they had on brought up some good points about this years FA class and the upcoming ones. The next CBA will be "very different" and some teams that are getting ready to take on "huge" contracts may be in for a big world of financial hurt. Because he luxury tax is expected to double and maybe even triple per dollar.

He said the Pacers were in "fantastic" shape heading into next year because all of their expiring contracts. He stated that this year is a great FA year but in the future the teams may regret signing all these max players.

For this reason I think the Pacers will hold onto at least 2 of their expiring contracts, and see what happens with the CBA next season.

If you can add Chris Paul and keep Granger though you have to do it, contracts be damned. Thats gonna pay for itself in a big way in the long run.

[woowoo]

Re: If Chris Paul is available... do the pacers have the pieces?

If you can add Chris Paul and keep Granger though you have to do it, contracts be damned. Thats gonna pay for itself in a big way in the long run.

I'm glad you are not running the team.....