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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

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"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

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We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

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If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

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B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

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Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

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When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

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If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

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The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

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It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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  • Re: Drafting Game

    WOWOWOW what an upset. My team came up clutch. DAMN!

    So who do I play next?

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    • Re: Drafting Game

      And who so far would be considered mvp worthy?

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        Can anyone see the bracket in my post up there?
        ...Still "flying casual"
        @roaminggnome74

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          no i cant

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            My guys choked when it counted. There will be serious repercussions d:


            How about double elimination.

            Congrats Lips s:
            "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"

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              2002-03 Roaming Gnome at 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
              9/5/2004 9:00:00 PM

























              Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
              2002-03 Roaming Gnome 27261926 98
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter 31192124 95


























































































































































































































































































































              VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 Roaming Gnome
              PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
              FGM/FGA
              FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
              Tim Hardaway 48 11/18 2/2 2/2 3 8 0 4 1 3 26
              Jeff Hornacek 48 6/15 1/5 5/6 4 3 0 0 1 3 18
              Jerry Lucas 48 4/8 0/0 2/4 13 3 0 1 0 0 10
              Cedric Maxwell 48 6/12 0/2 5/8 10 3 0 0 2 1 17
              Shaquille O'Neal 32 8/16 0/0 2/12 11 2 3 1 3 3 18
              Dikembe Mutombo 16 2/4 0/0 5/6 2 2 0 2 1 2 9
              TOTALS 240 37/73 3/9 21/38 43 21 3 8 8 12 98
                  50.7% 33.3% 55.3%              
               
              HOME TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
              PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
              FGM/FGA
              FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
              Tracy McGrady 48 16/22 2/2 4/4 10 4 0 0 1 3 38
              Kiki Vandeweghe 48 11/25 0/1 4/4 3 5 0 0 0 6 26
              Anthony Mason 47 2/8 0/0 0/0 9 3 0 0 2 5 4
              Magic Johnson 41 5/9 0/0 2/2 6 9 2 1 3 2 12
              Zelmo Beaty 37 5/11 0/0 3/3 7 0 0 2 2 6 13
              Mel Daniels 11 1/3 0/1 0/0 4 0 1 1 1 1 2
              Mark Price 7 0/1 0/1 0/0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0
              Rick Barry 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
              TOTALS 240 40/79 2/5 13/13 39 23 3 4 10 23 95
                  50.6% 40.0% 100.0%              

























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               4 T H   Q U A R T E R
              12:0072 - 71
              O'Neal is fouled while shooting. Foul #5 on Zelmo Beaty, team foul #1.
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: Zelmo Beaty is replaced by Mel Daniels. O'Neal misses the first FT and misses the second. Johnson grabs the rebound
              11:4772 - 71
              McGrady lays it in. 11:3772 - 73
              Maxwell is fouled by Kiki Vandeweghe on the floor. Foul #3 on Vandeweghe, team foul #2. 11:2472 - 73
              Hornacek misses from the baseline. Daniels snags the board11:1472 - 73
              McGrady's shot is rejected by O'Neal. O'Neal snags the board11:0372 - 73
              O'Neal lays it in. 10:4974 - 73
              Vandeweghe sinks the short jumper. 10:3874 - 75
              Lucas is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Anthony Mason, team foul #3. Lucas misses the first FT and makes the second.
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: IN: Zelmo Beaty -- OUT: Mel Daniels.
              10:2275 - 75
              2002-03 Roaming Gnome: [PG] T. Hardaway, [SG] J. Hornacek, [SF] C. Maxwell, [PF] J. Lucas, [C] S. O'Neal
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: [PG] M. Johnson, [SG] T. McGrady, [SF] K. Vandeweghe, [PF] A. Mason, [C] Z. Beaty
              Hardaway comes up with a steal. 10:0375 - 75
              O'Neal is fouled while shooting. Foul #6 on Zelmo Beaty, team foul #4.
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: Zelmo Beaty is replaced by Mel Daniels. O'Neal misses the first FT and misses the second. Mason snags the board
              9:4175 - 75
              Johnson is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Tim Hardaway, team foul #1. Johnson makes the first FT and makes the second. 9:2075 - 77
              Hornacek is fouled while shooting. Foul #2 on Tracy McGrady, team foul #5. Hornacek makes the first FT and makes the second. 9:0977 - 77
              Vandeweghe hits from the baseline. 8:5677 - 79
              Hardaway hits from the baseline. 8:3479 - 79
              McGrady misses short. Hornacek grabs the rebound8:1379 - 79
              O'Neal is fouled while shooting. Foul #1 on Mel Daniels, team foul #6. O'Neal misses the first FT and misses the second. Daniels snags the board7:5879 - 79
              O'Neal comes up with a steal. 7:4679 - 79
              Hornacek misses. McGrady grabs the rebound7:3679 - 79
              McGrady buries it from the top of the key. 7:1779 - 81
              Hardaway buries it from the top of the key. 7:0481 - 81
              Mason banks it in off the glass. 6:5081 - 83
              O'Neal is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Tracy McGrady, team foul #7. O'Neal misses the first FT and misses the second. Mason clears the rebound6:3381 - 83
              Johnson scores. 6:1381 - 85
              Hornacek hits the mid-range jumper. 5:5783 - 85
              McGrady hits from the baseline. 5:4183 - 87
              O'Neal's shot is blocked by Daniels. Mason snags the board5:2783 - 87
              McGrady scores the layup. 5:1083 - 89
              O'Neal scores. 5:0085 - 89
              McGrady misses from the baseline. Lucas grabs the rebound4:4685 - 89
              Hornacek misses a 3 from the wing. Vandeweghe clears the rebound4:2585 - 89
              Vandeweghe misses from the top of the key. Vandeweghe comes down with the offensive rebound4:1585 - 89
              Vandeweghe is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Jeff Hornacek, team foul #2. Vandeweghe makes the first FT and makes the second. 4:1185 - 91
              Maxwell misses a 3 from the corner. Daniels clears the rebound3:4985 - 91
              Daniels misses off the glass. Maxwell grabs the rebound3:3485 - 91
              Hornacek hits the mid-range jumper. 3:1287 - 91
              Mason misses from the top of the key. Lucas snags the board2:5187 - 91
              O'Neal banks it in off the glass. 2:2989 - 91
              Vandeweghe misses short. Hornacek grabs the rebound2:1189 - 91
              Lucas is fouled while shooting. Foul #5 on Anthony Mason, team foul #8. Lucas misses the first FT and makes the second. 1:5890 - 91
              McGrady loses it out of bounds. 1:4290 - 91
              Maxwell is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Kiki Vandeweghe, team foul #9. Maxwell makes the first FT and makes the second. 1:3492 - 91
              Johnson misses short. Maxwell snags the board1:2692 - 91
              Maxwell is fouled while shooting. Foul #5 on Kiki Vandeweghe, team foul #10. Maxwell makes the first FT and misses the second. Mason snags the board1:1093 - 91
              Vandeweghe hits the mid-range jumper. 0:5693 - 93
              O'Neal scores the layup. 0:4795 - 93
              Daniels buries it from the top of the key. 0:3595 - 95
              O'Neal buries it from the top of the key. 0:2297 - 95
              Vandeweghe misses long. Lucas clears the rebound0:1897 - 95
              Daniels comes up with a steal. 0:1597 - 95
              Vandeweghe misses the short jumper. Maxwell grabs the rebound0:0497 - 95
              Maxwell is fouled by Kiki Vandeweghe on the floor. Foul #6 on Vandeweghe, team foul #11.
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: Kiki Vandeweghe is replaced by Rick Barry. Maxwell makes the first FT and misses the second. Daniels clears the rebound
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter call timeout. The ball is inbounded at half-court.
              0:0198 - 95
              Daniels misses a 3. 0:0098 - 95
              4 T H   Q U A R T E R - 2002-03 Roaming Gnome: 98 2002-03 Jose Slaughter: 95










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              ...Still "flying casual"
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                2002-03 Roaming Gnome at 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
                9/5/2004 9:04:00 PM

























                Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
                2002-03 Roaming Gnome 22271928 96
                2002-03 Jose Slaughter 35312329 118


























































































































































































































































































































                VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 Roaming Gnome
                PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                FGM/FGA
                FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                Tim Hardaway 48 7/12 1/1 6/9 4 13 0 0 2 2 21
                Jeff Hornacek 48 6/15 0/3 2/2 1 4 0 1 2 3 14
                Jerry Lucas 48 6/18 0/1 8/9 16 1 0 1 1 4 20
                Shaquille O'Neal 40 7/13 0/0 1/2 7 2 1 3 0 4 15
                Cedric Maxwell 38 9/16 1/1 7/7 3 0 0 0 5 5 26
                Dennis Rodman 10 0/1 0/1 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0
                Dikembe Mutombo 8 0/2 0/0 0/2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0
                TOTALS 240 35/77 2/7 24/31 34 21 1 5 10 19 96
                    45.5% 28.6% 77.4%              
                 
                HOME TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
                PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                FGM/FGA
                FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                Tracy McGrady 48 10/20 5/9 5/6 6 4 0 0 1 3 30
                Kiki Vandeweghe 48 10/13 0/0 8/8 6 2 0 2 1 4 28
                Anthony Mason 48 6/9 0/0 4/6 9 9 0 1 2 3 16
                Magic Johnson 42 8/11 0/1 0/0 4 11 0 1 1 6 16
                Zelmo Beaty 41 8/13 0/0 8/9 12 2 1 0 5 3 24
                Mel Daniels 7 0/1 0/0 0/0 2 1 0 0 0 1 0
                Mark Price 6 2/5 0/1 0/0 1 2 0 0 0 0 4
                TOTALS 240 44/72 5/11 25/29 40 31 1 4 10 20 118
                    61.1% 45.5% 86.2%              

























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                ...Still "flying casual"
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                  2002-03 LouisvilleLip at 2002-03 ILovethePacers
                  9/5/2004 9:06:00 PM

























                  Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
                  2002-03 LouisvilleLip 34282432 118
                  2002-03 ILovethePacers 31232740 121


























































































































































































































































































































                  VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 LouisvilleLip
                  PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                  FGM/FGA
                  FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                  Oscar Robertson 48 7/16 3/6 3/4 8 11 0 2 1 4 20
                  Dan Issel 48 12/25 0/3 8/12 12 3 0 1 0 5 32
                  Bill Walton 39 4/12 0/0 2/4 10 6 2 2 3 4 10
                  Jack Twyman 37 10/21 1/4 2/2 6 2 0 1 1 5 23
                  Anfernee Hardaway 32 10/17 1/4 4/4 5 7 0 0 2 6 25
                  Sleepy Floyd 16 0/1 0/0 0/0 0 4 0 1 0 0 0
                  John Brisker 11 4/4 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 1 1 0 8
                  Caldwell Jones 9 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
                  TOTALS 240 47/96 5/17 19/26 42 33 2 9 8 24 118
                      49.0% 29.4% 73.1%              
                   
                  HOME TEAM: 2002-03 ILovethePacers
                  PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                  FGM/FGA
                  FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                  Michael Jordan 48 13/18 0/0 7/7 6 10 2 1 4 3 33
                  Maurice Cheeks 48 9/16 0/1 5/7 3 13 0 2 3 4 23
                  Adrian Dantley 48 15/22 0/0 3/6 5 3 0 2 3 2 33
                  Jeff Ruland 48 5/14 0/0 3/6 21 4 1 1 4 2 13
                  Artis Gilmore 36 6/10 0/0 5/9 12 2 2 0 0 5 17
                  Elton Brand 12 1/2 0/0 0/2 3 1 0 0 1 0 2
                  TOTALS 240 49/82 0/1 23/37 50 33 5 6 15 16 121
                      59.8% 0% 62.2%              

























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                   4 T H   Q U A R T E R
                  12:0086 - 81
                  Twyman misses short. Dantley clears the rebound11:5086 - 81
                  Cheeks misses. Ruland snags the offensive board11:3786 - 81
                  Ruland hits from the baseline. 11:3486 - 83
                  Robertson is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Michael Jordan, team foul #1. Robertson makes the first FT and makes the second.
                  2002-03 LouisvilleLip: IN: Anfernee Hardaway -- OUT: Sleepy Floyd.
                  11:2688 - 83
                  2002-03 LouisvilleLip: [PG] A. Hardaway, [SG] O. Robertson, [SF] J. Twyman, [PF] D. Issel, [C] B. Walton
                  2002-03 ILovethePacers: [PG] M. Cheeks, [SG] M. Jordan, [SF] A. Dantley, [PF] A. Gilmore, [C] J. Ruland
                  Gilmore misses from the top of the key. Hardaway grabs the rebound11:1288 - 83
                  Twyman misses from the baseline. Ruland grabs the rebound10:5788 - 83
                  Dantley scores the layup. 10:4788 - 85
                  Hardaway buries a 3 from the wing. 10:3391 - 85
                  Jordan hits from the baseline. 10:1891 - 87
                  Twyman misses a 3 from the corner. Ruland grabs the rebound10:0091 - 87
                  Gilmore is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Oscar Robertson, team foul #1. Gilmore makes the first FT and misses the second. Walton grabs the rebound9:4291 - 88
                  Twyman misses off the glass. Issel grabs the offensive rebound9:2591 - 88
                  Issel misses from the top of the key. Twyman snags the offensive board9:2291 - 88
                  Twyman sinks the short jumper. 9:1993 - 88
                  Dantley misses from the baseline. Twyman grabs the rebound9:0893 - 88
                  Twyman misses from the top of the key. Gilmore clears the rebound8:4993 - 88
                  Ruland buries it from the top of the key. 8:2893 - 90
                  Issel is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Artis Gilmore, team foul #2. Issel misses the first FT and makes the second. 8:1894 - 90
                  Dantley buries it from the top of the key. 7:5994 - 92
                  Walton misses short. Jordan grabs the rebound7:4194 - 92
                  Gilmore is fouled and the shot drops! Foul #4 on Dan Issel, team foul #2. Gilmore makes the free throw. 7:2394 - 95
                  Issel scores. 7:0896 - 95
                  Jordan loses it out of bounds. 6:5696 - 95
                  Hardaway misses a 3. Jordan clears the rebound6:4696 - 95
                  Dantley hits from the baseline. 6:2596 - 97
                  Robertson sinks a 3 from straight away. 6:1099 - 97
                  Dantley is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Jack Twyman, team foul #3. Dantley makes the first FT and makes the second. 5:4899 - 99
                  Hardaway misses from the baseline. Jordan grabs the rebound5:3999 - 99
                  Cheeks sinks the short jumper. 5:2299 - 101
                  Twyman is fouled while shooting. Foul #2 on Adrian Dantley, team foul #3. Twyman makes the first FT and makes the second. 5:13101 - 101
                  Gilmore hits from the baseline. 4:59101 - 103
                  Hardaway hits from the baseline. 4:48103 - 103
                  Dantley hits the mid-range jumper. 4:41103 - 105
                  Twyman hits the mid-range jumper. 4:28105 - 105
                  Cheeks is fouled and the shot drops! Foul #5 on Anfernee Hardaway, team foul #4. Cheeks makes the free throw. 4:14105 - 108
                  Dantley comes up with a steal. 3:57105 - 108
                  Ruland is fouled by Anfernee Hardaway on the floor. Foul #6 on Hardaway, team foul #5.
                  2002-03 LouisvilleLip: Anfernee Hardaway is replaced by Sleepy Floyd. Ruland misses the first FT and misses the second. Issel snags the board
                  3:44105 - 108
                  Robertson misses from the top of the key. Walton comes down with the offensive rebound3:30105 - 108
                  Issel is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Artis Gilmore, team foul #4. Issel makes the first FT and makes the second. 3:27107 - 108
                  Cheeks scores the layup. 3:12107 - 110
                  Issel hits from the baseline. 3:03109 - 110
                  Cheeks sinks the short jumper. 2:53109 - 112
                  Walton is fouled while shooting. Foul #2 on Jeff Ruland, team foul #5. Walton makes the first FT and misses the second. Ruland clears the rebound2:34110 - 112
                  Jordan's shot is blocked by Walton. Walton grabs the rebound2:16110 - 112
                  Robertson hits the mid-range jumper. 2:02112 - 112
                  Gilmore misses from the top of the key. Gilmore comes down with the offensive rebound1:53112 - 112
                  Gilmore scores. 1:50112 - 114
                  Twyman misses long. Issel comes down with the offensive rebound1:40112 - 114
                  Issel is fouled by Maurice Cheeks on the floor. Foul #4 on Cheeks, team foul #6. Issel misses the first FT and makes the second. 1:37113 - 114
                  Dantley buries it from the top of the key. 1:20113 - 116
                  Walton misses from the baseline. Dantley grabs the rebound1:12113 - 116
                  Jordan lays it in. 1:02113 - 118
                  Twyman misses a 3. Robertson snags the offensive board0:51113 - 118
                  Jordan comes up with a steal. 0:48113 - 118
                  Twyman comes up with a steal. 0:27113 - 118
                  Issel is fouled while shooting. Foul #5 on Artis Gilmore, team foul #7. Issel makes the first FT and makes the second. 0:18115 - 118
                  Ruland is fouled by Bill Walton on the floor. Foul #4 on Walton, team foul #6. Ruland misses the first FT and makes the second. 0:16115 - 119
                  Twyman misses a 3 from straight away. Issel comes down with the offensive rebound0:12115 - 119
                  Issel misses a 3 from the corner. Ruland grabs the rebound0:09115 - 119
                  Gilmore is fouled by Dan Issel on the floor. Foul #5 on Issel, team foul #7. Gilmore makes the first FT and misses the second. Gilmore comes down with the offensive rebound0:06115 - 120
                  Dantley is fouled by Jack Twyman on the floor. Foul #5 on Twyman, team foul #8. Dantley misses the first FT and makes the second. 0:05115 - 121
                  Twyman nails a 3 from the corner. 0:00118 - 121
                  4 T H   Q U A R T E R - 2002-03 LouisvilleLip: 118 2002-03 ILovethePacers: 121










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                  • Re: Drafting Game

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                     4 T H   Q U A R T E R
                    12:0086 - 81
                    Twyman misses short. Dantley clears the rebound11:5086 - 81
                    Cheeks misses. Ruland snags the offensive board11:3786 - 81
                    Ruland hits from the baseline. 11:3486 - 83
                    Robertson is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Michael Jordan, team foul #1. Robertson makes the first FT and makes the second.
                    2002-03 LouisvilleLip: IN: Anfernee Hardaway -- OUT: Sleepy Floyd.
                    11:2688 - 83
                    2002-03 LouisvilleLip: [PG] A. Hardaway, [SG] O. Robertson, [SF] J. Twyman, [PF] D. Issel, [C] B. Walton
                    2002-03 ILovethePacers: [PG] M. Cheeks, [SG] M. Jordan, [SF] A. Dantley, [PF] A. Gilmore, [C] J. Ruland
                    Gilmore misses from the top of the key. Hardaway grabs the rebound11:1288 - 83
                    Twyman misses from the baseline. Ruland grabs the rebound10:5788 - 83
                    Dantley scores the layup. 10:4788 - 85
                    Hardaway buries a 3 from the wing. 10:3391 - 85
                    Jordan hits from the baseline. 10:1891 - 87
                    Twyman misses a 3 from the corner. Ruland grabs the rebound10:0091 - 87
                    Gilmore is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Oscar Robertson, team foul #1. Gilmore makes the first FT and misses the second. Walton grabs the rebound9:4291 - 88
                    Twyman misses off the glass. Issel grabs the offensive rebound9:2591 - 88
                    Issel misses from the top of the key. Twyman snags the offensive board9:2291 - 88
                    Twyman sinks the short jumper. 9:1993 - 88
                    Dantley misses from the baseline. Twyman grabs the rebound9:0893 - 88
                    Twyman misses from the top of the key. Gilmore clears the rebound8:4993 - 88
                    Ruland buries it from the top of the key. 8:2893 - 90
                    Issel is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Artis Gilmore, team foul #2. Issel misses the first FT and makes the second. 8:1894 - 90
                    Dantley buries it from the top of the key. 7:5994 - 92
                    Walton misses short. Jordan grabs the rebound7:4194 - 92
                    Gilmore is fouled and the shot drops! Foul #4 on Dan Issel, team foul #2. Gilmore makes the free throw. 7:2394 - 95
                    Issel scores. 7:0896 - 95
                    Jordan loses it out of bounds. 6:5696 - 95
                    Hardaway misses a 3. Jordan clears the rebound6:4696 - 95
                    Dantley hits from the baseline. 6:2596 - 97
                    Robertson sinks a 3 from straight away. 6:1099 - 97
                    Dantley is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Jack Twyman, team foul #3. Dantley makes the first FT and makes the second. 5:4899 - 99
                    Hardaway misses from the baseline. Jordan grabs the rebound5:3999 - 99
                    Cheeks sinks the short jumper. 5:2299 - 101
                    Twyman is fouled while shooting. Foul #2 on Adrian Dantley, team foul #3. Twyman makes the first FT and makes the second. 5:13101 - 101
                    Gilmore hits from the baseline. 4:59101 - 103
                    Hardaway hits from the baseline. 4:48103 - 103
                    Dantley hits the mid-range jumper. 4:41103 - 105
                    Twyman hits the mid-range jumper. 4:28105 - 105
                    Cheeks is fouled and the shot drops! Foul #5 on Anfernee Hardaway, team foul #4. Cheeks makes the free throw. 4:14105 - 108
                    Dantley comes up with a steal. 3:57105 - 108
                    Ruland is fouled by Anfernee Hardaway on the floor. Foul #6 on Hardaway, team foul #5.
                    2002-03 LouisvilleLip: Anfernee Hardaway is replaced by Sleepy Floyd. Ruland misses the first FT and misses the second. Issel snags the board
                    3:44105 - 108
                    Robertson misses from the top of the key. Walton comes down with the offensive rebound3:30105 - 108
                    Issel is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Artis Gilmore, team foul #4. Issel makes the first FT and makes the second. 3:27107 - 108
                    Cheeks scores the layup. 3:12107 - 110
                    Issel hits from the baseline. 3:03109 - 110
                    Cheeks sinks the short jumper. 2:53109 - 112
                    Walton is fouled while shooting. Foul #2 on Jeff Ruland, team foul #5. Walton makes the first FT and misses the second. Ruland clears the rebound2:34110 - 112
                    Jordan's shot is blocked by Walton. Walton grabs the rebound2:16110 - 112
                    Robertson hits the mid-range jumper. 2:02112 - 112
                    Gilmore misses from the top of the key. Gilmore comes down with the offensive rebound1:53112 - 112
                    Gilmore scores. 1:50112 - 114
                    Twyman misses long. Issel comes down with the offensive rebound1:40112 - 114
                    Issel is fouled by Maurice Cheeks on the floor. Foul #4 on Cheeks, team foul #6. Issel misses the first FT and makes the second. 1:37113 - 114
                    Dantley buries it from the top of the key. 1:20113 - 116
                    Walton misses from the baseline. Dantley grabs the rebound1:12113 - 116
                    Jordan lays it in. 1:02113 - 118
                    Twyman misses a 3. Robertson snags the offensive board0:51113 - 118
                    Jordan comes up with a steal. 0:48113 - 118
                    Twyman comes up with a steal. 0:27113 - 118
                    Issel is fouled while shooting. Foul #5 on Artis Gilmore, team foul #7. Issel makes the first FT and makes the second. 0:18115 - 118
                    Ruland is fouled by Bill Walton on the floor. Foul #4 on Walton, team foul #6. Ruland misses the first FT and makes the second. 0:16115 - 119
                    Twyman misses a 3 from straight away. Issel comes down with the offensive rebound0:12115 - 119
                    Issel misses a 3 from the corner. Ruland grabs the rebound0:09115 - 119
                    Gilmore is fouled by Dan Issel on the floor. Foul #5 on Issel, team foul #7. Gilmore makes the first FT and misses the second. Gilmore comes down with the offensive rebound0:06115 - 120
                    Dantley is fouled by Jack Twyman on the floor. Foul #5 on Twyman, team foul #8. Dantley misses the first FT and makes the second. 0:05115 - 121
                    Twyman nails a 3 from the corner. 0:00118 - 121
                    4 T H   Q U A R T E R - 2002-03 LouisvilleLip: 118 2002-03 ILovethePacers: 121










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                    • Re: Drafting Game

                      Can you see this???


                      Jose Slaughter Vs Roaming Gnome---Series tied 1-1
                      ILoveThePacers Vs Louisville Lip---ILPacers leads 2-0

                      I know that Lip said he couldn't see the bracket that I made for this, but I wanted to ask again if anyone can see it...

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                      • Re: Drafting Game

                        That one works.....
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                        • Re: Drafting Game

                          I only see one of the games posted yet im down 2-0?

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                          • Re: Drafting Game

                            Originally posted by Roaming
                            Can you see this???


                            Jose Slaughter Vs Roaming Gnome---Series tied 1-1
                            ILoveThePacers Vs Louisville Lip---ILPacers leads 2-0

                            I know that Lip said he couldn't see the bracket that I made for this, but I wanted to ask again if anyone can see it...
                            Nope, I haven't seen any of the brackets, just red X's.
                            "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"

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                            • Re: Drafting Game

                              Originally posted by Hoop
                              Originally posted by Roaming
                              Can you see this???


                              Jose Slaughter Vs Roaming Gnome---Series tied 1-1
                              ILoveThePacers Vs Louisville Lip---ILPacers leads 2-0

                              I know that Lip said he couldn't see the bracket that I made for this, but I wanted to ask again if anyone can see it...
                              Nope, I haven't seen any of the brackets, just red X's.

                              I see no brackets... I saw the first one, but thats it.
                              Here, everyone have a : on me

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                              • Re: Drafting Game

                                I havn't seen any brackets.

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