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Can I get a confirmation on that? Jose has my pick in PM if that is correct.
Can I get a confirmation on that? Jose has my pick in PM if that is correct.
The Rules of Pacers Digest
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Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.
A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.
Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.
Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.
Rule #1
Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:
"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"
"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"
"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"
"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"
"He/she is just delusional"
"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"
"I'm going to take a moment to point and
/ laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"
"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good?"
In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.
We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.
Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.
That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.
A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.
There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.
Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.
In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.
Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.
If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!
All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.
Rule #2
If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.
The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.
The right places to do so are:
A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.
B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.
If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.
Rule #3
If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.
When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:
A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.
B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.
To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!
Rule #4
Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.
Rule #5
When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.
An example:
If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star
Rule #6
We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.
The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.
Rule #7
Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.
It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).
We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).
However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.
Rule #8
We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.
Rule #9
Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.
Rule #10
We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.
Rule #11
Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.
A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.
Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.
Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.
Rule #1
Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:
"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"
"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"
"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"
"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"
"He/she is just delusional"
"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"
"I'm going to take a moment to point and
/ laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*""Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good?
"In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.
We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.
Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.
That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.
A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.
There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.
Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.
In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.
Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.
If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!
All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.
Rule #2
If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.
The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.
The right places to do so are:
A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.
B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.
If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.
Rule #3
If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.
When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:
A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.
B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.
To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!
Rule #4
Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.
Rule #5
When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.
An example:
If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star
Rule #6
We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.
The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.
Rule #7
Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.
It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).
We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).
However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.
Rule #8
We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.
Rule #9
Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.
Rule #10
We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.
Rule #11
Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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Re: Drafting Game
As of now everything is cool.
Everyone is fine.
Able still needs to pick a guard but his time has long since expired & Roaming Gnome is the only other player that needs a guard so he is free to pick whoever he wants.
Able will need to fill out his roster when he returns.
He also is now free to drop Smits & add whatever center is still available..
I have the next pick & I will get to it in a moment. Louisville Lip took the guy I almost took with the 8th pick, but I have options still, so no biggie.
That should just leave Burnzone to fill out his forward spot sometime today.Comment
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Re: Drafting Game
Anthony Mason 96-97 $7,554,121Comment
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Cool, in case anyone missed it, I took "Stormin'" Norman Van Lier 70-71. 16.0pts/7.1rbs/10.1asts.
I've had my team in place at whatifsports for some time. I guess noone has ever heard of my last couple picks.
My team name over there is Joel's Kings.
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You left out that he shot 42%Originally posted by JoelCool, in case anyone missed it, I took "Stormin'" Norman Van Lier 70-71. 16.0pts/7.1rbs/10.1asts.
I've had my team in place at whatifsports for some time. I guess noone has ever heard of my last couple picks.
My team name over there is Joel's Kings.
That should pad my teams rebound numbers.
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Roaming Gnome
C --- Shaquille O'Neal 93-94 - Diekembe Mutombo 94-95
F --- Jerry Lucas 64-65 - Karl Malone 89-90 - Dennis Rodman 91-92 - Cedric Maxwell 78-79
G --- Tim Hardaway 90-91 - Jeff Hornacek 91-92 - Don Buse 75-76 - James Silas 75-76
Burnzone
C --- Wilt Chamberline 61-62 - George Mikan 51-52
F --- Alex English 82-83 - John Havlicek 70-71 - Marvin Barnes 74-75 - Predrag Stojakovic 03-04
G --- Pete Maravich 76-77 - Dave Bing 67-68 - Gail Goodrich - Lenny Wilkens 68-69
Louisville Lip
C --- Bill Walton 76-77 - Caldwell Jones 74-75
F --- Dan Issel 70-71 - Connie Hawkins 67-68 - John Brisker 70-71 - Jack Twyman 59-60
G --- Oscar Robertson 61-62 - Sleepy Floyd 86-87 - Penny Hardaway 95-96 - Mitch Richmond 90-91
Sycamore Ken
C --- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 71-72 - Clyde Lovellette 57-58
F --- Charles Barkley 87-88 - Kevin McHale 86-87 - Roger Brown 69-70 - Larry Johnson 92-93
G --- Jimmy Jones 68-69 - Dale Ellis - Byron Scott 87-88 - Dana Barros 94-95
Jose Slaughter
C --- Zelmo Beaty 70-71 - Mel Daniels 70-71
F --- Rick Barry 68-69 - Kiki Vandeweghe 83-84 - Otis Thorpe 91-92 - Anthony Mason 96-97
G --- Magic Johnson 83-84 - Tracy McGrady 02-03 - Mark Price 88-89 - Drazen Petrovic 92-93
Joel
C --- Dave Cowens 72-73 - Wes Unseld 69-70
F --- Larry Bird 84-85 - Chris Webber 00-01 - Baily Howell 60-61 - Terry Dischinger - 62-63
G --- Fat Lever 88-89 - George Gervin 79-80 - Lou Hudson 72-73 - Norm Van Lier 70-71
I love the Pacers
C --- Artis Gilmore 71-72 - Jeff Ruland 83-84
F --- Adrian Dantley 81-82 - Rudy Tomjanovich 73-74 - Elton Brand 01-02 - Detlef Schrempf 94-95
G --- Michael Jordan 87-88 - David Thompson 77-78 - Maurice Cheeks 85-86 - Norm Nixon 78-79
MSA2CF
C --- David Robinson 93-94 - Brad Daugherty 91-92
F --- Spencer Haywood 69-70 - Clark Kellogg 82-83 - Ron Artest 03-04 - PF Horace Grant 91-92
G --- Mark Jackson 88-89 - Michael Ray Richardson 80-81 - Jerry Sloan 70-71 - Alvin Robertson 87-88
Able
C --- Hakeem Olajuwon 92-93 - Bill Cartwright 79-80
F --- Bob Pettit 61-62 - Elvin Hayes 69-70 - Jermaine O'Neal 02-03 - Marques Johnson 78-79
G --- Jason Kidd 98-99 - Alan Iverson 02-03 - Vince Carter 00-01 - Larry Jones 68-69
Skipper Z
C --- Bob Lanier 73-74 - Alonzo Mourning 99-00
F --- Kevin Garnett 03-04 - Scottie Pippen 94-95 - Glen Rice 96-97 - Larry Nance 91-92
G --- Kobe Bryant 02-03 - John Stockton 91-92 - Ray Allen 00-01 - Bill Melchionni 71-72
Hicks
C --- Walt Bellamy 61-62 - Maurice Stokes 57-58
F --- George McGinnis 74-75 - Dolph Schayes 57-58 - Truck Robinson 77-78 - Willie Wise 71-72
G --- Gary Payton 99-00 - Charlie Scott 71-72 - Kevin Porter 78-79 - Hal Greer 63-64
Hoop
C --- Nate Thurmond 67-68 - Robert Parrish 88-89
F --- Elgin Baylor 60-61 - Grant Hill 96-97 - Billy Knight 75-76 - Buck Williams
G --- Kevin Johnson 88-89 - Clyde Drexler 88-89 - Michael Adams 90-91 - Calvin Murphy 75-76
Pig Nash
C --- Bob McAdoo 74-75 - Rich Kelley 78-79
F --- Dominique Wilkins 85-86 - Mark Aguirre 83-84 - Terry Cummings 82-83 - Ralph Sampson 83-84
G --- Isiah Thomas 84-85 - Walt Frazier 71-72 - World B. Free 79-80 - Michael Finley 99-00
Dipperdunk
C --- Moses Malone 81-82 - Willis Reed 69-70
F --- Julius Erving 72-73 - Tim Duncan 01-02 - James Worthy 89-90 - Bobby Jones 75-76
G --- Bob Cousey 56-57 - Sidney Moncrief 82-83 - Earl "The Pearl" Monroe 67-68 - Andrew Toney 83-84
Magic Rat
C --- Patrick Ewing 89-90 - Sam Lacey 74-75
F --- Bernard King 84-85 - Shawn Kemp 95-96 - Chris Mullin 90-91 - Ben Wallace 01-02
G --- Jerry West 69-70 - Reggie Miller 89-90 - Terry Porter 87-88 - Latrell Sprewell 96-97
Rim Bender
C --- Bill Russell 61-62 - Neil Johnston 54-55
F --- Dirk Nowitzki 02-03 - Billy Cunningham 69-70 - Paul Pierce 00-01 - Sidney Wicks 72-73
G --- Nate "Tiny" Archibald 72-73 - Richie Guerin 61-62 - Muggsy Bogues 93-94 - Otis Birdsong 80-81
Following is an alphabetized list of the players taken so far.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Michael Adams
Ray Allen
Mark Aguirre
Nate "Tiny" Archibald
Ron Artest
Charles Barkley
Marvin Barnes
Dana Barros
Rick Barry
Elgin Baylor
Zelmo Beaty
Walt Bellamy
Dave Bing
Larry Bird
Otis Birdsong
Muggsy Bogues
Elton Brand
John Brisker
Roger Brown
Kobe Bryant
Don Buse
Vince Carter
Bill Cartwright
Wilt Chamberline
Maurice Cheeks
Bob Cousey
Dave Cowens
Terry Cummings
Billy Cunningham
Mel Daniels
Adrian Dantley
Brad Daugherty
Terry Dischinger
Clyde Drexler
Tim Duncan
Dale Ellis
Alex English
Julius Erving
Patrick Ewing
Michael Finley
Sleepy Floyd
Walt Frazier
World B. Free
Kevin Garnett
George Gervin
Artis Gilmore
Gail Goodrich
Horace Grant
Hal Greer
Richie Guerin
Penny Hardaway
Tim Hardaway
John Havlicek
Connie Hawkins
Elvin Hayes
Spencer Haywood
Grant Hill
Jeff Hornacek
Baily Howell
Lou Hudson
Dan Issel
Alan Iverson
Mark Jackson
Kevin Johnson
Larry Johnson
Magic Johnson
Marques Johnson
Neil Johnston
Bobby Jones
Caldwell Jones
Jimmy Jones
Larry Jones
Michael Jordan
Rich Kelley
Clark Kellogg
Shawn Kemp
Jason Kidd
Bernard King
Billy Knight
Sam Lacey
Bob Lanier
Fat Lever
Clyde Lovellette
Jerry Lucas
Karl Malone
Moses Malone
Pete Maravich
Anthony Mason
Cedric Maxwell
Bob McAdoo
George McGinnis
Tracy McGrady
Kevin McHale
George Mikan
Bill Melchionni
Reggie Miller
Sidney Moncrief
Earl Monroe
Alonzo Mourning
Chris Mullin
Calvin Murphy
Diekembe Mutombo
Larry Nance
Norm Nixon
Dirk Nowitzki
Hakeem Olajuwon
Jermaine O'Neal
Shaquille O'Neal
Robert Parrish
Gary Payton
Drazen Petrovic
Bob Pettit
Paul Pierce
Sottie Pippen
Kevin Porter
Terry Porter
Mark Price
Willis Reed
Glen Rice
Michael Ray Richardson
Mitch Richmond
Alvin Robertson
Oscar Robertson
David Robinson
Truck Robinson
Dennis Rodman
Jeff Ruland
Bill Russell
Ralph Sampson
Dolph Schayes
Detlef Schrempf
Byron Scott
Charlie Scott
James Silas
Jerry Sloan
Latrell Sprewell
John Stockton
Predrag Stojakovic
Maurice Stokes
Isiah Thomas
David Thompson
Otis Thorpe
Nate Thurmond
Rudy Tomjanovich
Andrew Toney
Jack Twyman
Wes Unseld
Norn Van Lier
Kiki Vandeweghe
Ben Wallace
Bill Walton
Chris Webber
Jerry West
Sidney Wicks
Dominique Wilkins
Lenny Wilkins
Buck Williams
Willie Wise
James Worthy
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"Shooting % is overrated." - Alan IversonYou left out that he shot 42%
That should pad my teams rebound numbers.
with the fact that my starting lineup averages over 11 RPG per player, I'm not scared of a couple bricks.
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Gnome, I'm changing Magic to 83-84 - $8,796,264Comment
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He can have that engraved on the back of his bronze medal, maybe.Originally posted by Joel"Shooting % is overrated." - Alan IversonYou left out that he shot 42%
That should pad my teams rebound numbers.
with the fact that my starting lineup averages over 11 RPG per player, I'm not scared of a couple bricks.
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With the 159th pick, I will select Predrag Stojakovic from the 03-04 seasonComment
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My Final Selection will be James Silas 75-76
[edit=29=1093692116]I just changed the year[/edit]...Still "flying casual"
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Attention- We are all done drafting!!!!
Go make your teams at What If Sports in SimMatchup and make sure you make the team public and to save your starting line-up! Also...Make your team's name the same as your Pacer Digest name so I can find them for simulation.
Player names in red are considered on waivers...just waiting for a new home. :freaked:
Roaming Gnome---- $87,276,133 Done!
C --- Shaquille O'Neal 93-94 $14,913,277 - Dikembe Mutombo 94-95 $6,816,370
F --- Jerry Lucas 64-65 $8,071,443 - Karl Malone 89-90 $11,790,341 - Dennis Rodman 91-92 $7,376,367 - Cedric Maxwell 78-79 $9,038,058
G ---Tim Hardaway 90-91 $7,817,339 - Jeff Hornacek 91-92 $7,293,020 - Don Buse 75-76 $5,986,627 - James Silas 75-76 $8,173,291
Burnzone-----$89,215,709 Done!
C --- Wilt Chamberline 61-62 $23,116,950 - George Mikan 51-52 $4,036,715
F ---Alex English 81-82 $9,914,730 - Marvin Barnes 74-75 $7,852,186 - John Havlicek 70-71 $9,453,975 - Peja Stojakovic 03-04 $7,033,392
G --- Pete Maravich 76-77 $5,981,635 - Dave Bing 67-68 $6,335,312 - Gail Goodrich 68-69 $4,844,664 - Lenny Wilkens 68-69 $6,830,679
Louisville Lip----$84,551,231 Done!
C--- Bill Walton 76-77 $6,585,961 - Caldwell Jones 74-75 $6,828,064
F --- Dan Issel 70-71 $9,594,962 - Connie Hawkins 67-68 $13,363,553 -Jack Twyman 59-60 $6,338,995 - John Brisker 70-71 $6,966,309
G --- Oscar Robertson 61-62 $13,061,528 - Sleepy Floyd 86-87 $7,115,982 - Anfernee Hardaway 95-96 $8,042,442 - Mitch Richmond 90-91 $6,653,435
Sycamore Ken-----$102,620,572 Done!
C --- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 71-72 $19,513,116 - Clyde Lovellette 57-58 $4,964,701
F --- Charles Barkley 87-88 $13,815,178- Kevin McHale 86-87 $12,460,505 - Roger Brown 69-70 $8,476,170 - Larry Johnson 92-93 $8,746,836
G ---Jimmy Jones 68-69 $11,810,879 - Dale Ellis 88-89 $7,720,463 - Byron Scott 87-88 $7,444,813 - Dana Barros 94-95 $7,667,911
Jose Slaughter-----$78,576,750 Done!
C --- Zelmo Beaty $10,605,408- Mel Daniels $8,422,259
F --- Rick Berry 68-69 $5,585,264 - Kiki Vandeweghe 83-84 $9,285,219 Otis Thorpe 91-92 $8,084,133 - Anthony Mason 96-97 $7,554,121
G --- Magic Johnson 83-84 $8,796,264 - Tracy McGrady $8,195,328 - Mark Price 88-89 $6,828,518 - Drazen Petrovich 92-93 $5,642,146
Joel------$74,426,005 Done!
C --- Dave Cowens 72-73 $6,491,886 - Wes Unseld 69-70 $8,031,750
F --- Larry Bird 84-85 $11,209,940- Chris Webber 00-01 $7,217,832 - Bailey Howell 60-61 $7,183,844 - Terry Dischinger 62-63 $6,280,068
G --- Fat Lever 88-89 $6,213,231- George Gervin 79-80 $9,632,000 - Lou Hudson 72-73 $6,995,009 - Norman Van Lier 70-71 $5,170,445
I love the Pacers-----$99,989,884Done!
C --- Artis Gilmore 71-72 $15,230,963 - Jeff Ruland 83-84 $9,491,125
F --- Adrian Dantley 81-82 $12,625,875 - Rudy Tomjanovich 73-74 $9,246,471 - Elton Brand 01-02 $7,951,980 - Detlef Schrempf 94-95 $6,606,953
G --- Michael Jordan 87-88 $14,218,797- David Thompson 77-78 $8,562,051 - Maurice Cheeks 85-86 $8,218,419 - Norm Nixon 78-79 $7,837,250
MSA2CF-----$71,891,420Done!
C --- David Robinson 93-94 $11,575,369 - Brad Daugherty 91-92 $8,293,739
F --- Spencer Haywood 69-70 $13,847,914 - Clark Kellogg 82-83 $5,413,484 - Ron Artest 03-04 $3,369,097 - Horace Grant 91-92 $8,130,139
G --- Mark Jackson 87-88 4,890,693 - Michael Ray Richardson 79-80 $5,914,268 - Jerry Sloan 70-71 $4,595,970 - Alvin Robertson 87-88 $5,860,747
Able-----$79,371,074Done!
C --- Hakeem Olajuwon 92-93 $11,125,244 - Bill Cartwright 79-80 $8,138,739
F --- Bob Pettit 61-62 $9,488,399 - Elvin Hayes 69-70 $8,946,688 - Jermaine O'neal 02-03 $5,699,815 - Marques Johnson 78-79 $8,842,385
G --- Jason Kidd 98-99 $6,495,516 - Allen Iverson 02-03 $5,970,524 Vince Carter 00-01 $6,610,336 - Larry Jones 68-69 $8,053,428
Skipper Z-----$77,150,977Done!
C --- Bob Lanier 73-74 $8,807,372 - Alonzo Mourning 99-00 $7,582,626
F --- Kevin Garnett 03-04 $9,686,981 - Scottie Pippen 94-95 $6,917,158 - Glen Rice 96-97 $7,073,942 - Larry Nance 91-92 $7,530,445
G --- Kobe Bryant 02-03 $8,267,318- John Stockton 91-92 $7,249,451 - Ray Allen 00-01 $6,807,327 - Bill Melchioni 71-72 $7,228,357
Hicks-----$70,740,988 Done!
C --- Walt Bellamy 61-62 $12,972,587-
Maurice Stokes 57-58 $3,130,620
F --- George McGinnis 74-75 $8,351,353 - Dolph Schayes 57-58 $6,007,205 - Leonard 'Truck' Robinson 77-78 $6,049,147 - Willie Wise 71-72 $8,105,082
G --- Gary Payton 99-00 $7,624,493 - Charlie Scott 71-72 $7,022,792 - Kevin Porter 78-79 $5,797,265 - Hal Greer 63-64 $5,680,444
Hoop-----$73,280,963 DONE!
C --- Nate Thurmond 67-68 $4,720,296 - Robert Parish 88-89 $8,447,710
F --- Elgin Baylor 60-61 $9,362,540 - Grant Hill 96-97 $8,001,161 - Billy Knight 75-76 $7,122,946 - Buck Williams 86-87 $7,300,318
G --- Kevin Johnson 88-89 $8,520,038- Clyde Drexler 88-89 $9,139,542 - Micheal Adams 90-91 $4,440,302 - Calvin Murphy 75-76 $6,226,110
Pig Nash-----$76,677,171 DONE!
C --- Bob McAdoo 74-75 $13,109,260 - Rich Kelly 78-79 $5,875,630
F --- Dominique Wilkins 85-86 $7,545,437 - Mark Aguirre 83-84 $8,302,113 - Terry Cummings 82-83 $6,919,465 - Ralph Sampson 83-84 $6,168,988
G --- Isiah Thomas 84-85 $7,340,858- Walt Frazier 71-72 $8,433,820 - World B. Free 79-80 $6,325,538 - Micheal Finley 99-00 $6,656,062
Dipperdunk-----$77,398,808 DONE!
C --- Moses Malone 81-82 $12,303,838 - Willis Reed 69-70 $8,443,458
F --- Julius Erving 72-73 $9,732,814- Tim Duncan 01-02 $10,096,335 - James Worthy 89-90 $7,669,968 - Bobby Jones 75-76 $7,900,990
G --- Bob Cousey 56-57 $3,241,400 - Sidney Moncrief 82-83 $7,100,092 - Earl Monroe 67-68 $6,018,318 - Andrew Toney 83-84 $4,891,595
Magic Rat-----$77,741,368 DONE!
C --- Patrick Ewing 89-90 $11,667,517 - Sam Lacey 74-75 $4,665,219
F --- Bernard King 84-85 $6,699,700 - Shawn Kemp 95-96 $6,890,464 - Chris Mullin 90-91 $10,403,824 - Ben Wallace 01-02 $5,911,622
G --- Jerry West 69-70 $10,010,760- Reggie Miller 89-90 $8,226,718 - Terry Porter 87-88 $6,846,089 - Latrell Sprewell 96-97 $6,419,455
Rim Bender------$75,853,905 DONE!
C --- Bill Russell 61-62 $9,659,291 - Neil Johnston 54-55 $6,198,778
F --- Dirk Nowitzki 02-03 $7,319,581 - Billy Cunningham 69-70 $8,260,257 - Paul Pierce 00-01 $5,966,382 - Sidney Wicks 74-75 $7,037,736
G --- Nate "Tiny" Archibald 72-73 $12,337,789- Richie Guerin 61-62 $7,990,573 - Mugsey Bogues 93-94 $4,348,672 - Otis Birdsong 80-81 $6,734,846
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Later today I will set the conference pools and release a schedule for pool play. There will be a 14 game pool "regular season" schedule....Still "flying casual"
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I'm going to waive "Slick" and move him to the radio team.
In his place, I select Latrell Sprewell 96-97 $6,419,455.
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My team is set up as the "Indy Magic Rats"
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