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  • colts19
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 535
    #1

    granger question

    I like danny so this is not a thread to bash him. I just don't understand how we can complain about everyone else and continue to give danny a pass.

    In the post game threads I have how every thing is troy's fault because he won't defend or josh's fault because he had the worst plus minus.

    However nowhere in this thread or any other thread to day do I see even one mention of danny's 30 mins of play and how many rebounds.

    Look it up really you will be shocked. This guy gets no blame and he is our best player and how many rebounds was that again in 30 mins. LOOK IT UP.

    So i know everyone likes to blame everyone else but really how can this be overlooked by everyone.

    Never mind, it was troy's fault for stealing all the the rebounds that danny should have had.
    Good is the enemy of Great


    We're changing the identity of our basketball team -- dramatically. We're a power post team -- a blood-and-guts, old-school, smash-mouth team that plays with size, strength, speed and athleticism. We attack the basket. . . . This is the new identity of our team. It was a great effort. I'm very proud of our guys."
    -- Frank Vogel.
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    • Unclebuck
      Administrator
      • Jan 2004
      • 36227
      #2
      Re: granger question

      I've said all season long that with any NBA team you are only as good as your best player. Yeah I think Granger is the most important person in the franchise and his play does need to be looked at very closely. What the franchise decides to do with granger is a hugely important question. But this forum gets weighed down on so many other much less important things.

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        • Brad8888
          Fatman the Malevolent
          • Dec 2008
          • 3891
          #3
          Re: granger question

          He gets a pass because of injuries and the personal situation that he is going through with his family at this point. His struggles despite playing while injured and being misused by our coaching staff, coupled with now being totally distracted by personal issues that even O'B says are serious and Danny himself has admitted are even intruding into his thoughts during games make his efforts be appreciated more than they otherwise would be.

          His play has, frequently, been detrimental to the team this season, and most realize that. However, when everything is factored in, it is surprising that he has done as well as he has.

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            • PacerGuy
              Twitter: @SuprCityIndyFan
              • Mar 2008
              • 1558
              #4
              Re: granger question

              Danny is playing like most of us perform at work just before a vacation. He just wants this season to end!!!
              Two injuries, horrible record, a locker room that is likely deteriorating (as winning builds chemistry, losing builds miscontent), and likely does not have the greatest faith in our coach. Two yrs ago, after Dun's breakout I think Danny thought we could win enough to be a mid-seed in the East. Two yrs laster we are a 5th seed in the Lottery.

              He's pouting, he's emotional (for on/off court reasons), he's not focused, he's likely still not 100% physically, & likely has regressed skill wise from everything he worked on this past off-season (defense, ball-handeling, iso-moves).

              Let the season end, call a mulligan, & lets get a top pick, add Tyler :fingers crossed:, & maybe a trade or two, & just start over.
              (I left off new coach because no way we pay JO'B to just walk... )
              "Larry Bird: You are Officially On the Clock! (3/24/08)"
              (Watching You Like A Hawk!)

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                • McKeyFan
                  Intuition over Integers
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 14992
                  #5
                  Re: granger question

                  He gets a pass because he didn't want JOB as coach, got angry when JOB was extended, got renewed hope when they started winning with a different defensive minded philosophy, then got his hopes dashed again when Murphleavy, politics, stubbornness, cowardice, and money trumped winning.

                  Danny's cynical right now, and I don't blame him.
                  "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference

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                    • graphic-er
                      I'm on a MAC!
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 12265
                      #6
                      Re: granger question

                      Dude was matched up with Ron Artest. Nuff said.
                      You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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                        • WetBob
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 437
                          #7
                          Re: granger question

                          I don't give him a free pass, but I learned last season...

                          there is one topic you just don't want to bring up around here, and that's being critical of Granger.

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                            • BRushWithDeath
                              Play McRoberts and Price!
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 5911
                              #8
                              Re: granger question

                              I've been saying for awhile now Granger was the worst, best player in the NBA. I still fully believe that.
                              "I had to take her down like Chris Brown."

                              -Lance Stephenson

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                                • graphic-er
                                  I'm on a MAC!
                                  • Jan 2010
                                  • 12265
                                  #9
                                  Re: granger question

                                  If your only job in the game is to shut down Danny Granger, Ron Artest could do it 9 out 10 times. Artest is like 260 lbs? and built like a tank. Danny is like 230, You aren't going to box out Ron Artest on a rebound.
                                  You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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                                    • xtacy
                                      PROUD 2 B A PACERS FAN!
                                      • Jul 2008
                                      • 2082
                                      #10
                                      Re: granger question

                                      Originally posted by BRushWithDeath
                                      I've been saying for awhile now Granger was the worst, best player in the NBA. I still fully believe that.
                                      sad but true.

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                                        • KnicksRGarbage
                                          All hail King George!
                                          • May 2009
                                          • 159
                                          #11
                                          Re: granger question

                                          It's been discussed on here this year.
                                          Granger! Party of none, Granger Granger!! - Pacers Digest
                                          http://pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=50519
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                                            • WetBob
                                              Banned
                                              • Jun 2008
                                              • 437
                                              #12
                                              Re: granger question

                                              Originally posted by KnicksRGarbage
                                              It's been discussed on here this year.
                                              http://pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=50519
                                              And last year, when the writing was already on the wall, but largely ignored.

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                                                • Hicks
                                                  Member
                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 53148
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: granger question

                                                  Originally posted by WetBob
                                                  I don't give him a free pass, but I learned last season...

                                                  there is one topic you just don't want to bring up around here, and that's being critical of Granger.
                                                  Should have learned not to dismiss a concussion as "just a headache."

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                                                    • Trader Joe
                                                      DIET COKE!
                                                      • Jan 2006
                                                      • 46862
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: granger question

                                                      I'm not sure we can assess any of our players fairly with the coach we currently have...


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                                                        • WetBob
                                                          Banned
                                                          • Jun 2008
                                                          • 437
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: granger question

                                                          Originally posted by Hicks
                                                          Should have learned not to dismiss a concussion as "just a headache."
                                                          The guy came back the very next game...

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