Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

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    Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)



    This was supposed to be the year of Mike Dunleavy's triumphant return, when the smooth versatility of his game would help forge a stronger team and we'd all remember just what this team was missing most of last season.

    The return happened. The triumphs have not.

    Dunleavy has experienced a mysteriously quiet season. His scoring average (10.7) would be the lowest since his rookie season (2002-03), and his shooting percentages (.403 overall, .305 from the 3-point line) are well below normal.

    When he returned to the court in late November, he looked very much like his old self, averaging 15.1 points and shooting .484 overall and .382 from the arc in his first nine games. Since then, however, his productivity has been in a virtual free-fall: 7.8 points, .387 shooting overall and .233 (14 of 60) from the 3-point line in his last 19 games.

    It reached a nadir Saturday, when he played 4 minutes, 28 seconds in a 100-90 victory over the Bulls, his fewest since Feb. 8, 2009, his last game of last season when he re-injured his knee in the opening minutes against Washington.

    "Obviously, there's just not a whole lot of rhythm there," Dunleavy said. "Some of it's out of my control. I've just got to make the most of it and try and help the team win and just try and get better.

    "It's too bad because I thought we had a really good thing going and it's just not going in that direction anymore. Hopefully we can win a different way."

    In 2007-08, the offense ran through Dunleavy and he averaged 19.1 points, 5.2 rebounds, 3.5 assists and shot .424 from the 3-point line. But the team has changed dramatically since then, evolving away from the free-flowing, up-tempo offense that leaned heavily on the instinctive reactions of the passing game.

    "(The passing game) is the game Mike's best suited in," said Coach Jim O'Brien. "We're playing a game Mike's not best suited in because I would say our movement is down, say 40 percent from last year. And it's because of personnel and what the strengths of some guys are but it's certainly not the type of offense we put together with Mike in mind.

    "We put it together with Mike and Danny (Granger) in mind and now we don't seem to be getting the type of offensive rhythm and movement that we want."

    The good news is Dunleavy has experienced no setbacks with the knee.

    "Health is wealth and I feel good and my knee's doing well and that's really important," he said. "In terms of my production, that has nothing (to do with it).

    "I came back and right after the injury was fine. There was nothing wrong with me. Did well. But things have kind of just gone in a different direction and I've got to roll with the punches."

    Though the knee itself is sound, O'Brien believes a contributing factor is a relative lack of leg strength.

    "I would suspect that's part of it," O'Brien said. "When you take that much time off and you lose that much conditioning in your legs, I'm hoping that is the main problem.

    "He's a young man. He's not having any pain, which is good. So you would assume, if that's the case and he can get the leg strength up, then he'll be the player he wants to be and we want him to be."

    Is the evolution away from the offense that so suited Dunleavy's skills permanent? Or is it just a temporary aberration forced by circumstance?

    "I hope so but it's tough," Dunleavy said. "It's something that's tough to replicate. You've got to have guys that really know how to play and see the floor and stuff like that. It's kind of like either you have it or you don't and we've got to have enough guys to be able to do that."
  • Unclebuck
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    Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

    so does this mean that O'Brien is capable of changing the offense to suit the players (other than Mike) . They are running more set plays, less free-flowing passing game that Mike is so good at

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    • PaceBalls
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      • Jan 2004
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      Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

      "I hope so but it's tough," Dunleavy said. "It's something that's tough to replicate. You've got to have guys that really know how to play and see the floor and stuff like that. It's kind of like either you have it or you don't and we've got to have enough guys to be able to do that."

      What exactly is he wanting to replicate? That team missed the playoffs and was bad, just not as bad as this one.

      "It's too bad because I thought we had a really good thing going and it's just not going in that direction anymore. Hopefully we can win a different way."

      A Really Good Thing is not what we had going... Maybe he should raise his standards a bit?

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      • PacerGuy
        Twitter: @SuprCityIndyFan
        • Mar 2008
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        Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

        But the team has changed dramatically since then, evolving away from the free-flowing, up-tempo offense that leaned heavily on the instinctive reactions of the passing game.
        Do I read:
        J.Jack was a direct cause to 40% of our ball movement?

        I don't think it was Rasho, M.Daniels, M.Baston, or S.Graham.
        (OK maybe Q helped some, but he rarely played...)

        Another reason letting J.Jack walk set this team back:
        (1. Leadership
        (2. Passion
        (3. Ball Movement
        "Larry Bird: You are Officially On the Clock! (3/24/08)"
        (Watching You Like A Hawk!)

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        • PaceBalls
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          • Jan 2004
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          Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

          Originally posted by Unclebuck
          so does this mean that O'Brien is capable of changing the offense to suit the players (other than Mike) . They are running more set plays, less free-flowing passing game that Mike is so good at
          Just who is he changing the offense to suit exactly? The answer is ... Troy Murphy

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          • Sookie
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            • Nov 2009
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            Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

            I don't know that I believe that.

            I'm sure the style is effecting his play somewhat. But it doesn't effect his shooting, his decision making, his lazy defense..

            Often times there is a mental aspect people with knee injuries have to overcome, and I'm not sure Dun has yet.

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            • PacerGuy
              Twitter: @SuprCityIndyFan
              • Mar 2008
              • 1558

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              Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

              Originally posted by Thingfish
              "I hope so but it's tough," Dunleavy said. "It's something that's tough to replicate. You've got to have guys that really know how to play and see the floor and stuff like that. It's kind of like either you have it or you don't and we've got to have enough guys to be able to do that."
              Another "shot" at B.Rush?
              "Larry Bird: You are Officially On the Clock! (3/24/08)"
              (Watching You Like A Hawk!)

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              • 90'sNBARocked
                LovingTeamDipo!
                • Nov 2009
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                Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

                "It's too bad because I thought we had a really good thing going and it's just not going in that direction anymore. Hopefully we can win a different way."
                Oh but wait a minute

                The Pacers brass has told us that the "Plan" is right on schedule

                Could it be the Pacer Players know more than the BS company line us fans are force fed?
                Sittin on top of the world!

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                • Unclebuck
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                  Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

                  Originally posted by Thingfish
                  "I hope so but it's tough," Dunleavy said. "It's something that's tough to replicate. You've got to have guys that really know how to play and see the floor and stuff like that. It's kind of like either you have it or you don't and we've got to have enough guys to be able to do that."

                  What exactly is he wanting to replicate? That team missed the playoffs and was bad, just not as bad as this one.

                  "It's too bad because I thought we had a really good thing going and it's just not going in that direction anymore. Hopefully we can win a different way."

                  A Really Good Thing is not what we had going... Maybe he should raise his standards a bit?
                  The offense is different this year, less passing game, less backdoor cuts, more set plays, more standing around.......

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                  • 90'sNBARocked
                    LovingTeamDipo!
                    • Nov 2009
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                    Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

                    Originally posted by Unclebuck
                    The offense is different this year, less passing game, less backdoor cuts, more set plays, more standing around.......
                    Buck

                    I dont take that as a big difference in personal

                    To me its sounds like frustrated players , giving half an effort

                    similar to what Dahanty said earlier
                    Sittin on top of the world!

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                    • Sookie
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                      Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

                      Originally posted by PacerGuy
                      Another "shot" at B.Rush?
                      No, it's not a shot at Brandon. It's clearly not a shot at Brandon. I could list the players that it's a shot at, but it's not Brandon..

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                      • PaceBalls
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                        • Jan 2004
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                        Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

                        Originally posted by PacerGuy
                        Another "shot" at B.Rush?
                        Just general deflection I think. More blather by Dun, blaming everyone else.

                        After watching that youtube vid of Ron totally owning Carmello, this type of drivel by Mike makes me sick. He wishes only that we could have a good thing going like our awesome 35 win team that he was able to get some good stats with.

                        Bah.

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                        • Unclebuck
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                          Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

                          Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked
                          Buck

                          I dont take that as a big difference in personal

                          To me its sounds like frustrated players , giving half an effort

                          similar to what Dahanty said earlier
                          I think we found out very early on this season that the new players were not good at the read and react passing game type offense. they needed to be in more set plays.

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                          • Naptown_Seth
                            NaptownSeth is all feel
                            • Jul 2006
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                            Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

                            Yes, let's get to the passing game. Oh, that involves guys like Roy (great passer, high assists by C standards too), Price and Rush. Heck, good old McRoberts has a decent level of assists for a PF who isn't a focal point on offense.


                            Seems to me lots of Head, Watson and TJ starting the offense off with a long jumper, not to mention Danny and yep....DUNLEAVY, is creating the diminished passing game. I think it was the Bucks game where I saw Head or someone hand the ball to Dun who then took a 3pt shot with TWENTY seconds on the shot clock. Not some other guys, Dun himself.

                            I mean JOB complains that Rush doesn't shoot ENOUGH, so working a passing system is clearly not an issue for Brandon. He passes his way out of shots JOB wants him to take.


                            File this one under the same old "WTF are you talking about, you're the one doing this" category. It's like we are meant to believe that pod people invaded and coach the team during games and then Jim is forced to attend the pressers and atone for their crazy alien ways.

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                            • PaceBalls
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                              Re: Mike's knee is not an excuse for his struggles (Bruno)

                              Originally posted by Unclebuck
                              The offense is different this year, less passing game, less backdoor cuts, more set plays, more standing around.......
                              Right, I am not disputing that. But it's not like the previous few years have been something to pine about.

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