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02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

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  • #76
    Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

    Originally posted by Sookie View Post
    That's just not true. There are things people want to see.

    A win by the vets, is not one of them.

    If we threw AJ, Rush, Granger, McRoberts, and Roy on the floor..and came up with a win..so be it.

    But it does this team absolutely no good, to play the vets and get a win. None.

    People just want to watch the young kids develope. Get something positive out of this season. Watching Ford dominate the ball, and Dun and Troy shoot threes doesn't do anything for anyone anymore.
    It does increase trade value though. When they are playing well, they look good. Especially Troy and TJ tonight with a few flashes of Mike of old.

    Of course I'd rather see the young guys too, but you guys have to be happy when you see the happiness and optimism of the team tonight. It does well for the team, and it causes them not to have a complete breakdown.

    We're still in the John Wall race, don't worry folks.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    • #77
      Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

      Originally posted by Thesterovic View Post
      How in blue hell can you guys be so currupt to feel bad about a win. Especially to see some magical point guard play by TJ Ford. He was amazing tonight. He is a nice backup shooting point guard off the bench.

      If anything, you guys should be happy that Larry Brown and Michael Jordan are probably manipulating a plan to turn TJ into a monster on their squad over the summer, on top of him being an expiring contract. I wouldn't be suprised if we could get Augustin, Henderson, and their first now for Rush and Ford over the summer.

      Him and Danny definently played for a purpose.
      Personally, I don't feel bad, I just don't care.

      Good for T.J. for having a big game in front of probably his friends and family. But honestly, There is nothing to be excited about in that win. All it did was ensure JOB plays the vets and puts us farther back in the lottery.

      And come on, TJ, Dun, and Troy do not have good trade value. They haven't for a while, and they won't after this game. The most tradeable thing about them will be their contracts.

      Agreed, this probably helped team moral. But there's just nothing to be excited about, imo. I'm glad others did though.
      Last edited by Sookie; 02-21-2010, 12:34 AM.

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      • #78
        Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

        Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post
        I'm glad you enjoyed it. I have little interest watching TJ, Troy or the style of play...so I kind of tune it out.

        Sure, they will win a few games...but they define mediocrity and with them getting minutes there will never be any true rivalries or a truly competitive team. Not interesting anymore. But I'm sincerely glad some people enjoy seeing a meaningless win here or there.
        Yeah, I agree with all that. I'm well established as not being a fan of that style or big minutes for those players either. I would be upset to see us reel off a big winning streak that was just long enough to totally screw our draft position.

        On the other hand, a few more wins before the end of the season may keep the locker room from totally imploding, and it's nice to see all the guys look happy every once in awhile. When DJones hops up and waves his towel around in a frenzy I have to smile a bit, even if it's too little too late and they are playing a style of ball that is rarely going to produce a win because you have to shoot lights out from behind the arc.
        "Freedom is nothing else but a chance to be better." - Albert Camus

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        • #79
          Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

          Originally posted by Sookie View Post
          That's just not true. There are things people want to see.

          A win by the vets, is not one of them.

          If we threw AJ, Rush, Granger, McRoberts, and Roy on the floor..and came up with a win..so be it.

          But it does this team absolutely no good, to play the vets and get a win. None.

          People just want to watch the young kids develope. Get something positive out of this season. Watching Ford dominate the ball, and Dun and Troy shoot threes doesn't do anything for anyone anymore.
          Sadly the vets are better. Murphy and Ford will be in the league (not here in Indiana) after Rush, AJ, and McBob are gone. That's the reality of this team.

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          • #80
            Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

            Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post
            I'm glad you enjoyed it. I have little interest watching TJ, Troy or the style of play...so I kind of tune it out.

            Sure, they will win a few games...but they define mediocrity and with them getting minutes there will never be any true rivalries or a truly competitive team. Not interesting anymore. But I'm sincerely glad some people enjoy seeing a meaningless win here or there.


            Take a better approach when speaking to other PD members.



            Neither TJ or Troy are in our future plans, we are stuck with them for at least the rest of the season, you act as if these guys and JOB are going to be here in two years. and also that we are guaranteed John Wall

            You act as if we do not get the number 1 pick this franchise is doomed. There are plenty of good players our there in the draft.

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            • #81
              Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

              Originally posted by Trophy View Post
              It's not like this win is going to do us any good. We're still probably going to get a good draft pick.

              Everyone is gonna whine either if we win or lose so I don't know what to say anymore.
              This. If we lost we would be hearing about how we suck and we would get blown out by a D-League team, and how Brandon Rush is lazy, and Danny isn't the answer, and Troy Murphy would lose to Quinn Buckner in a foot race, and Solomon Jones can't catch a cold, and we're moving to Las Vegas, and Larry Bird is the enemy planning to ruin the Pacers franchise, and we'd probably pick Cole Aldrich over John Wall, and where is AJ, and Jim O'Brien can't coach Team USA, and how Larry Bird is prejudice, and...

              You get the point.
              "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

              Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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              • #82
                Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                Originally posted by Sookie View Post
                Personally, I don't feel bad, I just don't care.

                Good for T.J. for having a big game in front of probably his friends and family. But honestly, There is nothing to be excited about in that win. All it did was ensure JOB plays the vets and puts us farther back in the lottery.

                And come on, TJ, Dun, and Troy do not have good trade value. They haven't for a while, and they won't after this game. The most tradeable thing about them will be their contracts.

                Agreed, this probably helped team moral. But there's just nothing to be excited about, imo. I'm glad others did though.
                JOB is just doing his job, putting the best line up out there that he can to win the game.

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                • #83
                  Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                  Originally posted by IUfan4life View Post

                  You act as if we do not get the number 1 pick this franchise is doomed. There are plenty of good players our there in the draft.
                  I don't care if we don't get the 1st pick, at least the 2nd 3rd or 4th
                  @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                  • #84
                    Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                    Originally posted by IUfan4life View Post
                    JOB is just doing his job, putting the best line up out there that he can to win the game.
                    for what? to screw our draft position?
                    @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                    • #85
                      Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                      Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
                      for what? to screw our draft position?
                      his job is to try and win games

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                      • #86
                        Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                        To all the tankers:

                        Welcome--

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                        • #87
                          Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                          Originally posted by IUfan4life View Post
                          his job is to try and win games
                          he did not do his job until now, why is he trying to do it now?
                          @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                          • #88
                            Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                            the next game is at Dallas where we will inevitably lose by 30 points, save your applause for monday

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                            • #89
                              Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                              Originally posted by IUfan4life View Post
                              JOB is just doing his job, putting the best line up out there that he can to win the game.
                              1. No he's not putting the best lineup in.
                              2. His job at this point should be to develope the younger guys, not play the vets 40 + minutes.

                              No one would be whinning if he'd just play the younger guys and stop trying to squeak out a win here and there. Let our future develope, it's all we've got.

                              And for the record, my annoyance isnt' just about Price. McBob didn't play, and Rush and Roy didnt' get as much minutes as they should.
                              Last edited by Sookie; 02-21-2010, 12:53 AM.

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                              • #90
                                Re: 02/20/2010 Game Thread #55 Pacers at Rockets

                                Good game, neither team played **** for defense.

                                I was in attendance for this one, and I'm sure no one cares, but here are my scattered thoughts:

                                It's weird going to a game and seeing the Pacers wearing their road blues. It's the first time I've ever seen them in person.

                                During Granger's first trip to the line, the Houston crowd started an "overrated" chant. That's about the point when Granger started giving a crap. When he attacks the basket like that, he's hard to stop. Keep in mind, he did all that damage with Battier and Ariza guarding him--no slouches on D.

                                You could tell TJ Ford enjoyed playing in Houston, which is home for him. I don't care if he only had 1 assist, he played really well and single handedly kept us in the game. I'm not a fan of his by any stretch of the imagination, but he played great tonight.

                                McRoberts was very interested in all the sideshow stuff--the dancers, the timeout entertainment, etc. Him and Diener were goofing around the entire game.

                                Hibbert really disappointed me. He has such a huge height advantage over that entire Houston front line and couldn't make them pay for it. That's something I think he'll learn as he goes on.

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