Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

I think he's a good player, but I never thought of him as being a "great" player. Heck, I wouldn't have put him in the same league as the players mentioned with him minus Aldridge. I think he's better than him.

[1984]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

Refering to LeBron as "overated" negates anything this writer says. LeBron is not Michael Jordan, but he is an animal. Furthermore, Tracy McGrady is a "has been" because at one time TMAC was a very dominate player.

Cheers.

[Naptown_Seth]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

TMac is overrated???

Does anyone think of him as strong now? No. So unless he's dead and I didn't hear I don't see how he's overrated.

[Sparhawk]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

I think Lebron's overrated.

It's not that I don't think he's a fantastic player, and perhaps the best player in the league.

But some like to already say he's the best ever. Truth is the guy depends way too much on his athleticism and hasn't won anything. So if people are considering him the best ever, that's overrating him.

Lebron is not overrated. Does Lebron have a Scottie Pippen type player to play along side of? Hell no he doesn't. Pippen was one hell of a player and Lebron doesn't have anyone like that on his team.

I didn't think Danny Granger was that well known to be considered overrated. There are many players more overrated than Danny Granger. Not sure what their criteria was for being overrated, but it's not like Danny has any real protection.

[MillerTime]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

LOL how is Lebron overrated at all?????????????????

[BlueNGold]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

These days, the best teams have 3 or 4 all-stars....where a player like Lebron is left with an ancient Shaq and a cast of very average starters. Mo Williams is the only other player scoring in double figures.

Imagine Lebron with Bynum, Odom, Gasol and Artest....or with Garnett, Rondo and Ray Allen. There would be no way to stop that team.

[OrganizedConfusion]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

I've heard it multiple times. That he is already, or will be.."Jordan never averaged blah blah blah"

plus, I wouldn't be suprised if players in the league are just sick of him being shoved down their throats.

Exactly, so many fans think he is the G.O.A.T. this early in his career. I'm not surprised if a lot of players think he is overrated.

As for the stats, you should say that LeBron has never scored 81 points in a game or even 69 (Jordan) for that matter. Then you can win the argument on their terms.

[Sookie]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

These days, the best teams have 3 or 4 all-stars....where a player like Lebron is left with an ancient Shaq and a cast of very average starters. Mo Williams is the only other player scoring in double figures.

Imagine Lebron with Bynum, Odom, Gasol and Artest....or with Garnett, Rondo and Ray Allen. There would be no way to stop that team.

See, I hate that argument.

Lebron's team is isn't great without him. But they are completely built around him.

Why do you think they want Troy. Not because he's a fantastic player, but because he'll fit well with Roy. He needs players that space the court, can hit the three, so that he can drive to the lane..and teams can either chose to try and stop him, or defend the three pointers.

The Laker's aren't built around Kobe. They are built around Phil Jackson's offensive system. And Kobe happens to be a Superstar filling in his role.

[d_c]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

The Laker's aren't built around Kobe. They are built around Phil Jackson's offensive system. And Kobe happens to be a Superstar filling in his role.

FWIW, Phil Jackson's offensive system is struggling quite mightily in Minnesota.

[Hicks]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

FWIW, Phil Jackson's offensive system is struggling quite mightily in Minnesota.

They're running the triangle?

[vnzla81]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

They're running the triangle?

yes they are, reason why they wanted Danny.

[d_c]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

They're running the triangle?

Yep. Kurt Rambis spent 8 years as the top assistant to the most successful coach in NBA history with the Lakers. He brought everything he learned under Phil Jackson to the T-Wolves, including the offensive system.

And he's showing everyone exactly how much a coach's system is worth if you don't have the (talented) players to execute it.

[BlueNGold]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

See, I hate that argument.

Lebron's team is isn't great without him. But they are completely built around him.

Why do you think they want Troy. Not because he's a fantastic player, but because he'll fit well with Roy. He needs players that space the court, can hit the three, so that he can drive to the lane..and teams can either chose to try and stop him, or defend the three pointers.

The Laker's aren't built around Kobe. They are built around Phil Jackson's offensive system. And Kobe happens to be a Superstar filling in his role.

The Cavs have a great record...and with their talent level I have to agree that the team is built around Lebron. However, I hope you are not suggesting that this lineup:

West
Gibson
Lebron
Hickson/Varejao
Shaq

provides more help to Lebron than this one:

Fisher
Artest
Lebron
Gasol/Odom
Bynum

[Sookie]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

The Cavs have a great record...and with their talent level I have to agree that the team is built around Lebron. However, I hope you are not suggesting that this lineup:

West
Gibson
Lebron
Hickson/Varejao
Shaq

provides more help to Lebron than this one:

Fisher
Artest
Lebron
Gasol/Odom
Bynum

I am suggesting that the first lineup is better suited for Lebron. And allows Lebron to play to his best abilities.

Stick him on the Laker's, in Phil's system. And he wouldn't play as well. They aren't an amazing team. But they are a perfect fit for Lebron.

Lebron needs shooters. He needs teammates who can pull opposing team's players out of the lane.

Kobe on the other hand needs "big guys" down low. And the offensive system he plays in, is good for him. He's got a similar style to MJ..who obviously played well in that system as well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he wouldn't be fantastic in Phil's system. I'm just saying his game isn't best suited for it. His game is best suited for the system he's in now, with the teammates he has now.

[Trophy]

Re: Danny Granger 2nd most overated star in the NBA?

He goes from one of the most underrated players in the league last season to one of the most overrated players in the league this season?