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Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

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  • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

    imo, bradley has more potential than bledsoe. but i'm only comfortable drafting bledsoe or bradley if we obtain a second first rounder somewhere.

    i hate hearing that we have been talking about moving up, down, or out of the draft however. makes me think bird really has no clue what he wants to do, which is not good if you ask me.
    Last edited by millertime90; 05-26-2010, 12:57 PM.

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    • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

      Gordon Hayward at 8, wow.

      I need to see Bradley, when they describe him as the best perimeter defender in the draft and an excellent shooter, those are two things that are very valuable, obviously. I think this kid was thought of as an elite talent going into his freshman year. It doesn't answer the PG question in any way, though, unless way down the road, right?

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      • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

        Originally posted by millertime90 View Post
        imo, bradley has more potential than bledsoe. but i'm only comfortable drafting bledsoe or bradley if we obtain a second first rounder somewhere.

        i hate hearing that we have been talking about moving up, down, or out of the draft however. makes me think bird really has no clue what he wants to do, which is not good if you ask me.
        That is all part of the game when it comes to the draft. Bird is not really going to show his cards. He will talk about moving up, down, or even out of the draft entirely.

        I learned not to listen to anybody who is involved with the front office when it comes to the draft. I learned this after following the Colts under Polian's watch.

        I am shocked with how high Hayward has gone.

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        • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

          Originally posted by millertime90 View Post
          imo, bradley has more potential than bledsoe. but i'm only comfortable drafting bledsoe or bradley if we obtain a second first rounder somewhere.

          i hate hearing that we have been talking about moving up, down, or out of the draft however. makes me think bird really has no clue what he wants to do, which is not good if you ask me.
          Exploring all options is an intelligent thing to do.

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          • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

            Originally posted by Hicks View Post
            Exploring all options is an intelligent thing to do.
            Plus, the write up said a number of teams have targeted the Pacers' pick. I suppose that means other teams are the ones placing the phone calls. It would not be a smart thing for Bird to hang up on them. Maybe we'll start hearing some rumors of what other teams are offering.

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            • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

              Originally posted by Speed View Post
              Gordon Hayward at 8, wow.

              I need to see Bradley, when they describe him as the best perimeter defender in the draft and an excellent shooter, those are two things that are very valuable, obviously. I think this kid was thought of as an elite talent going into his freshman year. It doesn't answer the PG question in any way, though, unless way down the road, right?
              If he can defend and score at the one, I'm very interested in him. I'm reading he has strength, hops, body control, gets open on his own, and runs the pick and roll well.

              I know many here are floor-general-or-bust when it comes to their preferred type of PG, but this kind of a player can also help you tremendously.

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              • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2010...layer-profiles

                I really like this guy's (the blogger) so here it is:

                Not Your Mom's Player Profiles: Avery Bradley
                by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on May 26, 2010 1:00 PM EDT in NBA Draft 2010

                Hello loyal reader(s)! This is my first blog post from New York City (concretejunglewheredreamsaremadeof) so if I sound more hipstery, you know why. Speaking of hipsters, Avery Bradley is a fine young man.

                Despite an awful second half of the season for the Longhorns, making both me and coach Rick Barnes look terrible in the process, AB was fairly impressive. He would've been better served hanging around UT for another year to hone is point guard skills, but in a weak guard draft like this, I can't blame him for playing an extended game of hooky (especially since Texas recruited point guard Cory Joseph, the eighth-ranked player in his class for next season).

                Hit the jump for the usual suspects, in bold of course.



                Sinbad Memorial Skillset: Something most freshmen people basketball players don't like to do is play defense. Avery embraces it. While you could hardly call him consistent in his first season, his tenacity and aggressiveness on the defensive end was always evident. I can recall a specific time against Oklahoma State when he was guarding Obi Muonelo and James Anderson at different parts of the game, both with four inches on him - He goes hard against bigger guys.

                For whatever reason, my Synergy isn't working right now so I can't get you the exact numbers on his jumper, but I know his catch and shoot percentages were more than solid (his form is golden). He definitely projects to be a respectable shooter at the next level.

                It was disappointing to see Texas fall apart at the end of the season basically because of its lack of guard play, so there are definitely red flags about his ability to run the point based on what he's shown so far.

                UPSIDE: He's probably too small for the two on most teams, but if you pair him with a taller, play-making point guard (Jrue Holiday please. Check this out if you don't believe me), they should be able to handle the other team's backcourt pretty well defensively.

                Develop his jump shot, tell him to play off the ball and get to the basket more, then let him do his thing on D and I think you've got an NBA starter on your hands (which begs the question, why are you holding an NBA starter in your hands? Creep.). Anywhere from late lottery to early 20's, AB is a solid pick.

                Feelings of Former School: I went to none other than SB Nation's Burnt Orange Nation (formerly of the Department of Redundancy Department) and Peter Bean for his words on the freshman point guard. Via e-mail (per usual):

                The tricky thing about Avery Bradley is figuring out his upside, which if you squint just right can appear, well, ridiculous. But through clearer lenses his limitations suggest he's short of a star, and if things go well is 'merely' a capable, useful starter.

                Bradley's two primary assets are his explosive athleticism and offensive versatility -- the kid features an old school mid-range game that would make Vinny Johnson proud. Unfortunately, at least in his one year at Texas, he didn't show a great ability to use that filthy athleticism to be a great penetrator, and if that aspect of his game develops a lot, he could be a guy who averages 15 ppg. His shooting stroke from beyond the arc is solid, but he's streaky, and when he goes cold, he gets tentative as a player.

                You'll hear a lot about Bradley's defense, and it's all correct. Texas coach Rick Barnes called him the best freshman defender he'd ever seen, and he's had some good ones. Overall, Bradley probably lacks the handles to be a true point and the consistency outside to be a lethal scorer as a two-guard, but his defense, athleticism, and overall ability make him -- in my opinion -- a potential starter on a playoff team. If he slips through the first round, he'll be a steal for a quality team late.

                Looks: Oddly enough, every time I look at Avery Bradley (which is often) he looks different to me. Whether or not he is a shape-shifter remains to be seen. To other people less in touch with the magical realm, he's got that tough lip look that you don't want to mess with, especially if he's in your grill on D. Clean-cut dude, I approve (Of what, I'm not sure).

                Career if it wasn't Basketball (according to me): Entomologist. Call it a hunch.

                Next up: Scott Schroeder BREAKING NEWS: Scott Schroeder has pulled out of the Draft for the 8th straight year, a new record for the town of Bismarck, North Dakota. Indeed a sad day for the Bemidji State Beavers.

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                • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                  Torrance is a SERIOUS sleeper in this draft, and the buzz around the combine was that he could slip into the bottom of the first. That's in L.A.'s wheelhouse, and you guys know something about tall point guards, don't cha? His stock's going to skyrocket once teams realize he's not a 6'5" shooting guard, but a 6'5" POINT guard with legit handles an a solid overall game. Considering that, after Wall, there's really not a sure-thing point guard in the draft, I'm guessing Torrance is a guy who rises bigtime. The big question for you, Rolly, is whether or not he'll still be there that late in the game... I'm not sure he will be...
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                  • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                    Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post

                    White is one of the players I have interest in for the Pacers. I was hoping he would stay under the radar where he'd be available in the 2nd round.

                    I'd love for the Pacers to come up with another pick or two. The Knicks are looking to buy one, and they are in dire need of a PG. Walsh loves tall PG's too.

                    No way the Pacers can afford to spend 3 mil for a pick with the CIB negoiations going.

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                    • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                      Originally posted by millertime90 View Post
                      i hate hearing that we have been talking about moving up, down, or out of the draft however. makes me think bird really has no clue what he wants to do, which is not good if you ask me.
                      Why would you assume that if the FO/Bird is talking about moving up/down/out of the draft means that the FO/Bird has no clue as to what they want to do?

                      I'd agree with you if we had some Top 5 pick where there are obvious choices as to who we would draft....but ( just like always ) being stuck at the 10 spot ( as in "No Man's land" where we have been for the last 3 seasons ) where there isn't a clear cut BPA that would make sense for us....trading up/down/out seems like a reasonable course of action to take.

                      Trading up/down/out of the draft IMHO doesn't mean that FO/Bird have no clue what to do....it just means that the quality of the draft at the 10th pick isn't as great as it would seem and that trading up/down/out of the draft may yield similar results while netting us some addtional assets ( assuming we trade down/out of the draft ) and ( as many have pointed out here ) that they are weighing ALL options when it comes to improving this Team.
                      Last edited by CableKC; 05-27-2010, 02:41 PM.
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                      • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                        I'd be disappointed if Bird wasn't exhausting all options before deciding.

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                        • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                          Originally posted by CableKC View Post
                          I'd agree with you if we had some Top 5 pick where there are obvious choices as to who we would draft....but ( just like always ) being stuck at the 10 spot ( as in "No Man's land" where we have been for the last 3 seasons ) where there isn't a clear cut BPA that would make sense for us....trading up/down/out seems like a reasonable course of action to take.
                          Well... a lot of people in here don't seem to mind getting an annual 10-14 pick as opposed to a top-5 pick...
                          Last edited by Mourning; 05-28-2010, 07:30 AM.
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                          • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                            Originally posted by Mourning View Post
                            Well... a lot of people in here don't seem to mind getting an annual 10-14 pick as opposed to a top-5 pick...
                            I would prefer pick 30 and 60 for a few years.

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                            • Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                              Originally posted by Will Galen View Post
                              I would prefer pick 30 and 60 for a few years.
                              IF it would mean we would have the best record in the league for a couple of years then, yes, sign me up, IF we got those (multiple) #30 and #60 picks in a trade, while being in no-mansland like in the past years then, no, thanks .
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                                http://twitter.com/Wells222/status/15002623311


                                Pacers to have workouts at Conseco on June 1 & 2. Guards on the 2nd. Avery Bradley, Eric Bledsoe and Jordan Crawford expected to workout.

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