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Re: Are you like me right now
Maybe we'll never lose again, if Tyler is playing!
WOW!
Really, I like his attitude, and what he brings. I think he'll work out, if all he ever brings is rebounds, mid-range jumpers, aggressiveness to the hoop that gets foul shots. I don't see what else we could ask of a rook PF. He's going to be made to look like a rookie now and then, yes.
To the main question...I don't see us reverting to games 1-3 behavior. That was a 'get to know you' period. The chemistry will continue to gel. The team will continue to master the defensive schemes. Will we go 79-3? Probably not, huh? But, it sure looks to me like at least a few games better than last year. That's playoffs.
Assuming injuries don't screw us up.
Assuming players coming off injuries don't screw us up.
What we need to see is how we do against the middle tier of the East. We haven't played any of them yet....each game has been against bottom feeders or contenders. Let's see how we do vs Detroit, Chicago, Charlotte, Milwaukee, etc. Those are our rivals for the playoff spot.
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There was an interview with him in one of the games, recorded, in which he was clearly stating what HE wanted and I see that confirmed in his play, the ball ends with him, it don't go anywhere else anymore, no matter the outcome.
That, IMO, is very worrying in a rook and i personally don't listen to this "spark" stuff, so is McBob, but ANY player on the team should play with 110% intensity.
Jumping over and on top of people will usually cost you fouls and not get you any, going up with a lot of arms around you may give you fouls, but also blocks, if as you say he can get blocked 3 times a night on a max of 10 attempts that is 30% out, then shooting 50% will still only generate you 35% total makes.
Yes he had "nice" numbers his 1st 2 games, lost less the last game, I know he is a rook, humble would suit him much better, we have had enough experience with "I" players, and black holes on offense.
I wont even start discussin his defense because honestly I think he just gets in the way of our own players.So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.
If you've done 6 impossible things today?
Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!
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I didn't equate them, I was making an example. I said he'd been playing well but he wasn't the "main" factor. Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert have played the best and I think the player most responsible for the attitude on the team is Dahntay Jones.Comment
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Yeah, I meant Watson. Ford was just in my mind I guess.
I wouldn't mind seeing a starting lineup of Watson/Rush/Jones/Granger/Hibbert with a second unit revolving around Ford and Murphy. There are a lot of pieces at this team's disposal, I'm honestly kind of worried that the returns of Murph/Foster/Dunleavy will shake up the rotation too much. This team has serious depth, JOB just needs to make the most of it. I think going with that starting five and subbing in Solomon or Murphy to the power forward and sliding Granger to small forward would work. That way Dahntay starts, gets subbed out for Murphy, then comes in with the second unit.
It'll be interesting to see how all of it plays out.Comment
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Pacers are in trouble if Troy doesn't come back and play pretty close to last years mark. Can't afford to have Granger play the 4 all year long. Not his position, and shouldn't be.
I do think the defense has improved. You can't make excuses like Pierce was hobbled and Ray Allen played back to backs. Its early in the season, under 10 games in. No player is actually tired yet. If it was that big a problem for Boston you would have seen them give it to Garnett way more. They have gotten a ton of deflections in these 4 wins. And Rush is playing out of his mind defensively right now. He caught up to Allen on every screen and denied the open drive and 3 pter. Way different Pacers team that last season. D Jones is the second best player on this team by far. Should be most improved player of the year candidate.Comment
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He plays within the offense in the recorded games I watched. Sure your not watching a UNC game? One-on-one in the post your supposed to finish the play. PLEASE STOP comparing him to McBob because of energy. That's twice now and it's a logical fallacy to argue that based on energy. Tyler owned McBob in college, and he will own him today. McBob is the greatest 12th man you can ask for. Give Tyler a chance he IS a rookie. Confidence isn't really a problem either. Rush and Ford suffer from a lack of confidence at times.Comment
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If you normalize the minutes Tyler's assists are about the same as Solomon Jones but about half as many as Murphy's were before he went out. That tells me that he is in fact passing the ball, whether it is too much or not remains to be seen. I think as his style gets figured out he'll need to do more passing.
Considering that he is meant to be an in-the-lane scoring PF rather than a trail-and-distribute/shoot PF like Troy, I think he's doing fine.
What I keep seeing is that teams are forced to double him, so if he CAN in fact pass more he becomes even more valuable.BillS
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...Comment
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I thought I read that in NCAA people thought he should pass out more. Personally I've never even suspected it comes from a selfish place. I think it's just something he needs to work on. Certainly he's not a naturally-born passer, but I'd be stunned if he's doing it to "get his".Comment
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It seems to me that when he gets the ball in the low post, he usually shoots it, and if he gets it up high early in the offensive set, he passes. When he gets it somewhere in between, it depends on whether or not the lane is clear. He has tried to take it to the hoop if he catches it facing the basket.
In any case, I don't see why some people are so low on him. He is productive for a rookie. I hope that he gets a little more elevation as he recovers from his injury, but regardless of that he needs to adjust his shot and release higher.Comment
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I couldn't agree more! I wasn't one who wanted Tyler as a draft pick, but I have to admit I like what I've seen so far from him. When he's in the game, I catch myself concentrating on his game.
Oh please to who alluded to Tyler as a 1 trick pony, you couldn't be further from the truth. The 1 trick pony on this team is Sir Foster, and he's in rapid decline. If Tyler progresses very quickly, Foster's best contribution to the Pacers this season will be in the form of trade bait.Comment
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I'd like to say something about when Troy, Mike and Jeff return.
We look really good now, but we're not going to be any worse once these guys are back. If anything we're going to improve by getting more offensive/defensive rebounds again and more shots.
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