The Official "Fire Jim O'Brien!" Thread

[travmil]

Re: When will jim O'brien be held accountable?

He doesn't have talent my butt. Yeah they're not gonna win a title but they have enough talent to be better than they are. I don't even post on this board anymore because of this stupid JOB love affair that some of you have. JOB isn't even average as a coach. Calling JOB average is a complete insult to average coaches everywhere. His mind boggling decisions and late game substitutions are a joke. He doesn't have a go to play that will get you a bucket out of a timeout, and even if he did he'd draw it up for Jarrett Jack. He gives minutes to players that don't deserve them. I've made it clear that in my opinion JOB isn't even fit to coach in a YMCA youth league, and I've seen nothing out of him this season to change my mind.

Tonights finish sort of makes this look like **** doesn't it? Oh well Im willing to man up and admit that they didn't completely suck in the 4th and that JOB was at least part of the reason for that. It is only one game though...

[pianoman]

Re: A piece of my mind

I'm all for JOB finishing out his contract and everything, but i'd love for Avery to succeed him.

[idioteque]

Re: A piece of my mind

Why would Avery come to Indiana?

The Suns will likely be in the market for a coach soon. I think there is a good chance Detroit will be, too. Popovich and Sloan aren't getting any younger and the same goes for Phil Jackson. Hell, I could even see someone spurning us for the Golden State job.

[Coop]

Re: A piece of my mind

So much whining about the coaching. It's really growing tiresome. John Wooden could coach this team and we still wouldn't be .500. Everyone needs to calm down and just let the rebuilding take its course.

[Jay@Section12]

Re: When will jim O'brien be held accountable?

1. Brown
2. Slick
3. Bird
4(tie) Carlisle/Ramsay/Obie
7. McKinney
8. Bo Hill
9. Staverman
10. Versace
11. Irvine
12. Thomas

(Irvine never had any talent, but was horrible. Zeke actually destroyed talent.)

Look, I'm no fan of Thomas, and I'll give credit to Reggie and Jalen for this, but he made the playoffs all three years and the first couple of years they probably should not have. And I think he did develop talent - JO and Tinsley, Harringon, even Artest made much more progress under him than under any other coach before or after that. Still his game-time coaching would put him near the bottom of any respectable list, but there were some positives from his era. With Irvine, there were none.

[Justin Tyme]

Re: A piece of my mind

JO'B's contract runs through the 09-10 season. Same as Bird's contract. IIRC, JO'B's contract was for 3 mil a year. I could be wrong, and if I am please correct me.

[travmil]

Re: A piece of my mind

There's no point, this team is far from being a "contender" regardless of who's coaching. Let Jim finish his job.

Definitely not a contender for a title, but I think they are actually pretty close to being a midlevel eastern conference team, 4 to 6 seed range. I think that's also a big part of why people are a bit upset. They see all of these close losses and see that the P's really aren't all that bad they just need one or two more plays per game to go their way and wonder why it never happens.

[MillerTime]

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JO'B's contract runs through the 09-10 season. Same as Bird's contract. IIRC, JO'B's contract was for 3 mil a year. I could be wrong, and if I am please correct me.

$3 mill a season??????????????????? WOW! Did Walsh give him that contract?

[count55]

Re: When will jim O'brien be held accountable?

Look, I'm no fan of Thomas, and I'll give credit to Reggie and Jalen for this, but he made the playoffs all three years and the first couple of years they probably should not have. And I think he did develop talent - JO and Tinsley, Harringon, even Artest made much more progress under him than under any other coach before or after that. Still his game-time coaching would put him near the bottom of any respectable list, but there were some positives from his era. With Irvine, there were none.

"Destroyed" may have been the wrong word. He severely impaired talent with his in-game coaching. I thought all three of his teams underachieved.

[BlueNGold]

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I remember all the whining about Rick Carlisle. Personally, I never really understood that. I do understand the displeasure with watching this joke of a system.

[MillerTime]

Re: A piece of my mind

I remember all the whining about Rick Carlisle. Personally, I never really understood that. I do understand the displeasure with watching this joke of a system.

If you look at our offense we have abolutely no one in the middle. Theres 5 players on the perimeter. If we're lucky, we'll have Foster or Hibbert near the free throw line, otherwise we're a straight jump shooting team. Our one dimensional offense is a joke

[Dr. Awesome]

Re: When will jim O'brien be held accountable?

Tonights finish sort of makes this look like **** doesn't it? Oh well Im willing to man up and admit that they didn't completely suck in the 4th and that JOB was at least part of the reason for that. It is only one game though...

We did completely suck in the 4th and a lot of it was Obies fault. What game were you watching? Tonight was one of Obie's worst games as a coach, I have a feeling that if he lost tonight he woulda been done at the end of the season. I'm afraid as of now Bird likes Obie too much to fire him.

[BlueNGold]

Re: A piece of my mind

If you look at our offense we have abolutely no one in the middle. Theres 5 players on the perimeter. If we're lucky, we'll have Foster or Hibbert near the free throw line, otherwise we're a straight jump shooting team. Our one dimensional offense is a joke

Our "system" on offense does tend to put up some points, so it's not all bad. It's really the inability, at times, to convert tough shots in the fourth quarter using the "system" and the inability, almost all the time, to stop anybody in the fourth quarter.

[count55]

Re: When will jim O'brien be held accountable?

We did completely suck in the 4th and a lot of it was Obies fault. What game were you watching? Tonight was one of Obie's worst games as a coach, I have a feeling that if he lost tonight he woulda been done at the end of the season. I'm afraid as of now Bird likes Obie too much to fire him.

Describe, exactly, how it was mostly his fault.

[MillerTime]

Re: A piece of my mind

Our "system" on offense does tend to put up some points, so it's not all bad. It's really the inability, at times, to convert tough shots in the fourth quarter using the "system" and the inability, almost all the time, to stop anybody in the fourth quarter.

I dont have faith in it no more. Its good through out 3 quarters but after that we're just stagnant, the defense figures us our pretty easy. We have our Cs standing at the free throw line where other teams are just giving them 3-5 feet to do nothing