Pacers plan on doing the most Pacers thing ever: 1) Re-sign Myles, 2) Not pay luxury tax

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  • RWB
    Member
    • May 2004
    • 9525

    #16
    As I said in another thread we'll see what direction we have to go after the playoffs. Who shows up and wilts will be a good start. Next year Nemby at 18 mill really hurts.
    You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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    • jrwannabe
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 5193

      #17
      I'd be fine with letting Turner go and running with the 3 other Cs we have on the team. Our team is what they are due to our depth. Signing Turner to more than 20 million, means we lose our identity.

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      • BobbyMac
        Most optimistic member!
        • Aug 2006
        • 3702

        #18
        Not sure what is best, I don't want to lose Turner....Wondering if what we could get for Nembhard, Put Ben in at the 2. beginning to think we should keep Walker and perhaps move Shepard. It will be interesting!
        Go Pacers!

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        • Pacerized
          Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 7941

          #19
          Originally posted by BobbyMac
          Not sure what is best, I don't want to lose Turner....Wondering if what we could get for Nembhard, Put Ben in at the 2. beginning to think we should keep Walker and perhaps move Shepard. It will be interesting!
          I'd be fine with moving Nembhard, Nesmith and Sheppard but I don't think we could get more than an expiring and future 2nd for any of them, at best a very protected 1st. I think Shep's contract is already expiring next year anyway. I don't want to have a lineup of bargain bin centers and I don't want to lose Mathurin, Walker or Obi but we need to plan for the time Mathurin is going to get paid. We should be looking to draft big this year.
          At this point I think the best move is to offer Turner a 3/60 contract and see if any team wants to offer more.
          Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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          • Ozwalt72
            Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 2207

            #20
            Originally posted by Pacerized

            I'd be fine with moving Nembhard, Nesmith and Sheppard but I don't think we could get more than an expiring and future 2nd for any of them, at best a very protected 1st.
            Ugh why are you underestimating the first 2? These guys are good nba players, approaching their primes and good values.

            Nesmith for an expiring and a future 2nd is a hang up the phone offer.

            Nembhard for an expiring and a future 2nd is a laugh into the phone and block their number offer.
            "man, PG has been really good."

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            • RWB
              Member
              • May 2004
              • 9525

              #21
              Hoops salary in case someone want's a quick glance. https://hoopshype.com/salaries/indiana_pacers/
              You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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              • yoadknux
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2647

                #22
                Originally posted by Pacerized

                I'd be fine with moving Nembhard, Nesmith and Sheppard but I don't think we could get more than an expiring and future 2nd for any of them, at best a very protected 1st. I think Shep's contract is already expiring next year anyway. I don't want to have a lineup of bargain bin centers and I don't want to lose Mathurin, Walker or Obi but we need to plan for the time Mathurin is going to get paid. We should be looking to draft big this year.
                At this point I think the best move is to offer Turner a 3/60 contract and see if any team wants to offer more.
                Sheppard is a filler, and pretty much anyone else we get at backup 2 is an upgrade.
                As for Nesmith and Nembhard, they're both serviceable role players. As you said a contender might offer an expiring and lotto protected first. I personally think Nesmith can be a good fit as a backup to Mathurin next season, but I'd want a quick guard who can space the floor with his outside shot instead of Nembhard. Nembhard is a horrible shooter, averaging just 31% from deep this season, and really disappears at times on offense
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                • Pacerized
                  Member
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 7941

                  #23
                  Originally posted by yoadknux
                  Sheppard is a filler, and pretty much anyone else we get at backup 2 is an upgrade.
                  As for Nesmith and Nembhard, they're both serviceable role players. As you said a contender might offer an expiring and lotto protected first. I personally think Nesmith can be a good fit as a backup to Mathurin next season, but I'd want a quick guard who can space the floor with his outside shot instead of Nembhard. Nembhard is a horrible shooter, averaging just 31% from deep this season, and really disappears at times on offense
                  At this point resolving our starting center situation is #1 but beyond that I'd love to move on from 2 of our undersized wings, I just don't think they have the value to other teams like they do to the Pacers.
                  Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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                  • BornIndy
                    INDIANA
                    • May 2013
                    • 8990

                    #24
                    I love Mathurin but a lot of the Pacers problems would be solved if they drafted Jalen Williams

                    Thunder got him at #12...damn that hurts!!! Would hurt less if anyone but OKC got him. Now they have a inevitable dynasty

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                    • MillerTime
                      FREE LANCE
                      • May 2008
                      • 7943

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BornIndy
                      I love Mathurin but a lot of the Pacers problems would be solved if they drafted Jalen Williams

                      Thunder got him at #12...damn that hurts!!! Would hurt less if anyone but OKC got him. Now they have a inevitable dynasty
                      Presti is a genius

                      Thunder will have between 9 and 15 first round picks in the next 7 years (drafts) and between 21 and 27 second round picks in those drafts.
                      "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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                      • BornIndy
                        INDIANA
                        • May 2013
                        • 8990

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MillerTime

                        Presti is a genius

                        Thunder will have between 9 and 15 first round picks in the next 7 years (drafts) and between 21 and 27 second round picks in those drafts.
                        They're going to have to sell some off eventually right? They have Holmgren and Williams contract extensions coming up. Well I guess they still have one more season.

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                        • BornIndy
                          INDIANA
                          • May 2013
                          • 8990

                          #27
                          For the record, Jalen Williams was never on my radar for that draft. The only player I wanted was Jaden Ivey lol

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                          • MillerTime
                            FREE LANCE
                            • May 2008
                            • 7943

                            #28
                            Originally posted by BornIndy

                            They're going to have to sell some off eventually right? They have Holmgren and Williams contract extensions coming up. Well I guess they still have one more season.
                            I would think they would trade some of those picks for vets
                            "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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                            • MillerTime
                              FREE LANCE
                              • May 2008
                              • 7943

                              #29
                              Originally posted by BornIndy
                              For the record, Jalen Williams was never on my radar for that draft. The only player I wanted was Jaden Ivey lol
                              I wanted Ivy as well but was happy with the Mathurin selection. Sharpe was an interesting player at the time as well. Problem was there was just not enough film on him. Heโ€™s from London Ontario and didnโ€™t play in college for some reason. Itโ€™s still a mystery as to what happened
                              "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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                              • stew
                                Member
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 555

                                #30
                                At these stage of their development, who is the better player?
                                - mathurin
                                - ivey
                                - sharpe

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