The Rules of Pacers Digest

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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

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If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

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If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

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B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

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When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

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It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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Playoff Game #2 Pacers vs Bucks

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  • Playoff Game #2 Pacers vs Bucks


    Game Preview

    In Game 2, the Indiana Pacers plan to use the lessons learned from their playoff opener to get their postseason plans back on track.

    After a 109-94 loss to the third-seeded Milwaukee Bucks (1-0) on Sunday at Fiserv Forum, Pacers players and coaches vowed Tuesday’s matchup would look different from their Game 1 defeat.

    Sixth-seeded Indiana (0-1) fell behind by 30 points early in their Game 1 loss, as the Blue & Gold gave up 35 points to All-Star guard Damian Lillard in the first half and missed their first 13 attempts from 3-point range to trail by 27 points at intermission.

    While the Pacers were able to narrow their deficit to 12 heading into the fourth quarter, outscoring the Bucks 29-14 in the third frame, Milwaukee never allowed their visitors to make it a single-digit game down the final stretch.

    If you include the regular season, the 94-point outing was the fewest for the Pacers for 2023-2024 and just the second time the team has scored under 100 points in a game. The Pacers — the highest scoring team in the NBA — shot just 39.6 percent overall.

    PLAYOFF CENTRAL: Follow Indiana's Postseason Run at >>

    Two significant changes shifted the momentum in the second half of Game 1.

    After shooting 35.6 percent in the first half, the Pacers bumped their clip to 42.3 in the second half (including making five of their eight total 3-pointers). Additionally, Lillard didn’t score in the second half despite playing almost 19 minutes.

    Two-time NBA MVP Giannis Antetokunmpo didn’t suit up for the Bucks on Sunday, as he continues to deal with a calf injury. Antetokunmpo's status for Tuesday’s game is unknown, and 6-11 big man Bobby Portis, who was named a Sixth Man of the Year finalist on Sunday, would likely start again in his stead.

    Milwaukee, which has multiple players still on its roster from its 2021 championship team, saw its vets step up on Sunday night, which included a 15-point, 11-rebound performance from Portis and 23 points from veteran sharpshooter Khris Middleton.

    For Indiana, the player with the most postseason experience also shined, but his offense was the only one rolling from start to finish.

    Pascal Siakam, who has played in 54 playoff games, and won a championship in 2019, scored a playoff career-best 36 points while pulling down 13 rebounds on Sunday. Just Jermaine O’Neal (2006) and Paul George (2017) have recorded playoff games with at least 36 points and 13 rebounds in Pacers NBA Playoffs history.

    "They won Game 1," Siakam said. "We’ve got to move on, go back, learn from it, watch film, adjust, and come back and lay it all out on the floor. At the end of the day, no matter what the score was, it’s still one game."

    RELATED: Pacers Learn Lessons from First Collective Playoff Experience >>

    Myles Turner, the longest tenured Pacers player, put it on himself on his fellow vets to make sure the is ready from the start in Game 2. Turner finished with 17 points in Game 1.

    "We have a young group that really hasn’t experienced this level," Turner said. " A lot of this is on our leaders - the guys who have been here before. When you’re in the playoffs on the road, you have to come out with a certain intensity, a certain attention to detail. It lacked a little bit in that first half. I’m still very confident with our group.”

    Pacers All-Star point guard Tyrese Haliburton was also one of those several Indiana players who said he’s expecting more from himself in Game 2.

    Haliburton, who averaged 20.1 points and 10.9 assists per game in the regular season, logged nine points, eight assists, and seven rebounds in the loss. He only took seven shots in the game -- well below his 15.2 field goal attempts per game during the regular season – and said he “has to be better” on Tuesday.

    Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle had 11 players take the floor on Sunday, but he said that rotation could be tightened or changed moving forward depending on the situation. He did reiterate, however, the second unit was the highest-scoring in the league this past season, and that depth has led to success for this team.

    After Tuesday's road game, the Pacers will host Games 3 and 4 of the Eastern Conference seven-game series on Friday and Sunday at Gainbridge Fieldhouse.
    Projected Starters

    Pacers: G - Tyrese Haliburton, G - Andrew Nembhard, F - Aaron Nesmith, F - Pascal Siakam, C - Myles Turner

    Bucks: G - Patrick Beverley, G - Damian Lillard, F - Bobby Portis Jr., F - Khris Middleton, C - Brook Lopez
    Injury Report

    Pacers: Bennedict Mathurin - out (right shoulder labral tear)

    Bucks: Giannis Antetokounmpo - doubtful (left soleus strain)
    Last Meeting

    April 21, 2024: The Milwaukee Bucks led by 27 points at halftime, thanks to a 35-point first-half performance by Damian Lillard, and never faltered in a 109-94 win over the Indiana Pacers in Game 1 of the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs.

    The Pacers shot just 39.6 percent overall, including going 8-for-38 from 3-point, in the loss. Milwaukee shot 51 percent in the first half and 47.1 percent on the night, making 14 of 37 3-pointers overall.

    Lillard led the Bucks with 35 points, Khris Middleton scored 23 points and 10 rebounds, and Bobby Portis – starting in place of an injured Giannis Antetokounmpo (calf) – collected 15 points and 11 boards.

    Pascal Siakam led the Pacers with 36 points and 13 rebounds, Myles Turner scored 17, and Tyrese Haliburton finished with nine points, eight assists and seven rebounds.

    Indiana won the rebounding margin 50-47 and points in the paint differential 40-34.
    Last Meeting
    • The Pacers have lost 10 straight playoff games dating back to the 2017-2018 season. Their last playoff win was Game 6 against the Cleveland Cavaliers in 2018.
    • This is the third time the Pacers and Bucks have met in the postseason. Indiana won both series during the 1998-1999 and 1999-2000 seasons.
    Broadcast Information (TV and Radio Listings >>)

    TV: NBA TV - Gus Johnson (play-by-play), Jim Jackson (analyst), Dennis Scott (analyst)
    Bally Sports Indiana - Chris Denari (play-by-play), Quinn Buckner (analyst), Jeremiah Johnson (sideline reporter/host)

    Radio: 93.5/107.5 The Fan - Mark Boyle (play-by-play), Eddie Gill (analyst), Pat Boylan (sideline reporter/host)

    The Pacers will host the Bucks in Game 3 on Friday, April 26 at 5:30 PM ET, the first playoff game at Gainbridge Fieldhouse since 2019. Find Tickets >>
    Last edited by owl; 04-23-2024, 08:59 AM.

  • #2
    No home team has lost yet. No chance tonight.
    Closer like all the other road teams but no cigar


    • #3
      Pacers need to be super aggressive both offensively and defensively with body checks all around as this is the playoffs
      and with the new NBA rules


      • #4
        With the late start and embarassing performance from Sunday, I'm probably gonna sit this one out. That being the case, they will likely have a great game since I won't be watching LOL so you all can thank me later.
        *removed* Just keep politics and religion completely out of it, please.


        • #5
          Media has us back as underdogs, which is the place we're used to being. Hopefully that translates into more effort.

          Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk


          A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
          Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...


          • #6
            Originally posted by owl View Post
            No home team has lost yet. No chance tonight.
            Closer like all the other road teams but no cigar
            True, home teams are now 13-0 to start the postseason. I wonder what the record is for that particular stat?


            • #7
              I obviously want us to win, but I care more about Haliburton putting up 20 plus shots in this game. We aren't winning a championship this year, but we are developing Hali. If he can't step up and be "the guy" on a playoff team, then we have bigger long term problems. Game 1 needs to be an aberration for him.


              • #8
                Let's go!!!


                • #9
                  Originally posted by 712Jefferson View Post

                  True, home teams are now 13-0 to start the postseason. I wonder what the record is for that particular stat?
                  Aren't they 11-0? 8 games on Saturday and Sunday, 3 last night.

                  Regardless, I know the last time all home teams won game 1 was in 2013 I think.


                  • #10
                    I am looking forward to Ty having a big game. I hope he and the coaches told everyone to get him the damn ball. This is Hali's team, he needs the ball in his hands. A big reason the ball stops moving is Siakam, who is at his best creating his own shot, but also TJ is playing hero ball a little too much. I don't ever want to see him or anyone ignore a wide-open Hali ever again. I got so mad at TJ on that sequence where he bricked two 3s in a row with Hali WIDE OPEN and screaming for the ball. Just inexcusable.


                    • #11
                      The good news is that we start the game with a zero to zero score. On the one hand that means with effort and some offensive efficiency we can play the game and compete at a high level and possibly win.

                      On the other hand one of the referees for tonight's game is Tony Brothers. Which, to be fair, can go either way because incompetence has no bias.

                      Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13


                      • #12
                        I see our normal slow start but I don't see it getting out of hand early tonight. Slow Dame and we got the win.


                        • #13
                          I thought TJ did a good job defensively on Dame
                          but just as important is to ATTACK Dame on offense


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post

                            Aren't they 11-0? 8 games on Saturday and Sunday, 3 last night.

                            Regardless, I know the last time all home teams won game 1 was in 2013 I think.
                            Was counting the play-in games, but that math was wrong, too, and I forgot the Pels lost at home to the Lakers... so it's 11-0 not counting the play-ins, 14-1 counting the play-ins.

                            Agree with owl, btw. We didn't make Dame work at all on defense. That's not okay.

                            And, let's be a little careful what we ask for regarding Ty's shot attempts tonight. 20 shot attempts is great if most of them are good looks and/or attacking the rim. Maybe not gonna feel so great if a lot of them are side step contested threes. Waiting for the day he learns to balance the effective distribution he showed in the second half of game 1 with much more of a killer mentality to get his when the going gets rough. Probably going to take at least a few years though and lots of further development, if we're being honest.


                            • #15
                              Pretty much a must win. There’s no way in hell that we will beat them 4 out of 5 times if we go down 0-2.