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  • Game #54 Pacers vs Knick(s)

    https://www.nba.com/pacers/news/prev...-knicks-240210



    Game Preview


    Indiana hopes to get back on track as they take on the New York Knicks for the third and final time this season. The contest at Madison Square Garden will kick off a three-game road trip for the Blue and Gold that will finish just in time for NBA All-Star 2024 in Indianapolis.



    The Pacers (29-24) were defeated by the Knicks, 109-105, in the most recent meeting between the two teams, but things were a different story in the first matchup this season. Indiana earned a dominant 140-126 win over the Knicks at Gainbridge Fieldhouse a little over a month prior when four Pacers ended the night with 20+ points, led by Myles Turner’s 28 points and Aaron Nesmith’s 25 points.



    Indiana’s last time out, the Pacers were no match for the Golden State Warriors on Thursday night despite entering the game with momentum from back-to-back wins over Charlotte and Houston. The top-ranked shooting team in the league struggled to keep up with Stephen Curry, who recorded 42 points and racked up 11 3-pointers, and the Warriors as Indiana shot 48.1 percent (39-of-81) from the floor and 38.7 percent (12-of-31) from 3-point range. Indiana was also outrebounded, 49-30, and outscored, 64-44, in the paint.



    Indiana’s slip up at home Thursday night could not dim Pascal Siakam’s light on this Pacers team as he recorded a team-high 16 points and eight rebounds. The new Pacer has averaged 22.3 points and a team-leading 7.0 rebounds in his 12 games in the Blue and Gold uniform. The five other Pacers in double-figures were supported by Turner’s 15 points and seven rebounds, while Jalen Smith recorded 14 points on a 6-of-6 shooting clip off the bench.



    More recent trade products are bringing more light to Indiana as forward Doug McDermott, who was acquired from San Antonio in a three-team tradeon Thursday, potentially makes his debut with the Blue and Gold Saturday night. Former Pacer McDermott played three seasons with the Pacers from 2018-2021 and is averaging 6.0 points per contest this season while shooting 47.2 percent from the field through his career.



    The Knicks (33-19) also enter the matchup coming off of a similar loss, as they fell to Dallas, 122-108, Thursday night.



    However, New York went without three of its best players as it struggles to remain healthy going into the All-Star break. Former Indiana University Hoosier OG Anunoby, who had been averaging 15.6 points per game since being traded to the Knicks on Dec. 30, underwent surgery on his right elbow on Thursday and will be evaluated in three weeks. Veteran forward Julius Randle, who had been averaging 24.0 points per contest, suffered a dislocated shoulder on Jan. 27 and has missed New York’s most recent five games. In addition, All-Star reserve Jalen Brunson sprained his ankle last Tuesday and did not play in New York’s game against the Mavericks Thursday night.



    Brunson has been ruled day-to-day as he recovers from his ankle injury. The guard has led New York in scoring 27 times this season and is averaging a team-leading 27.2 points and 6.4 assists per contest this season. He also recorded his fifth 40-point game of the season against the Pacers on Feb. 1.



    Thursday’s matchup found New York opening with a brand-new starting lineup, featuring Precious Achiuwa, Donte DiVincenzo, Josh Hart, Isaiah Hartenstein and Miles McBride. DiVincenzo led all scorers on the night with 36 points, while Josh Hart recorded his second triple-double of his career after notching 23 points, 12 assists and 10 rebounds.
    Projected Starters


    Pacers: G - Tyrese Haliburton, G - Andrew Nembhard, F - Aaron Nesmith, F - Pascal Siakam, C - Myles Turner



    Knicks: G - Jalen Brunson, G - Donte DiVincenzo, F - Josh Hart, F - Bojan Bogdanovic, C - Precious Achiuwa
    Injury Report


    Pacers: Tyrese Haliburton - questionable (left hamstring injury management), Jalen Smith - questionable (lower back spasms)



    Knicks: Jalen Brunson - questionable (sprained right ankle), Jericho Sims - questionable (illness), OG Anunoby - out (right elbow surgery), Isaiah Hartenstein - out (sore left Achilles), Julius Randle - out (dislocated right shoulder), Mitchell Robinson - out (left ankle surgery)
    Last Meeting


    Feb. 1, 2024: The Indiana Pacers let the win slip away when they fell to the New York Knicks, 109-105, in the most recent matchup between the two teams. Though the Pacers led at the end of each of the first three quarters, New York outscored Indiana, 30-21, in the final frame with the help of a 12-0 scoring run that allowed them to gain the lead with less than five minutes remaining to play.



    Jalen Smith notched 20 points on 9-of-11 shooting from the floor to go along with nine rebounds to lead the six Pacers players who ended the night in double figures. He was followed by Pascal Siakam’s 18 points, seven rebounds, and five assists, as well as Aaron Nesmith’s 17 points and six rebounds.



    Indiana shot 45 percent from the floor while New York shot just 39.8 percent, but it was rebounding that may have lost the Blue and Gold the game. The Knicks outrebounded Indiana, 60-44, and outscored it, 62-48, in the paint.



    While All-Star starter Tyrese Haliburton continued to play on limited minutes while managing a left hamstring injury, Indiana was also without leading bench scorer Bennedict Mathurin who missed his second straight game with a right toe sprain. New York was missing OG Anunoby (right elbow inflammation) and Julius Randle (dislocated shoulder).



    All-Star reserve Jalen Brunson recorded 40 points on 15-of-30 shooting from the floor to lead New York to its ninth consecutive win. Donte DiVincenzo followed behind with 20 points.
    Noteworthy
    • Indiana is 94-100 with the Knicks all-time, and 31-65 in the Big Apple.
    • Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle coached Jalen Brunson in Dallas for three seasons from 2018 to 2021.
    • Pacers forward Obi Toppin was drafted by the Knicks in the first round of the 2020 NBA Draft and spent his first three seasons in New York (2020-23).
    • OG Anunoby spent two seasons with Indiana University from 2015 to 2017.



    Broadcast Information (TV and Radio Listings >>)

    TV: Bally Sports Indiana - Chris Denari (play-by-play), Quinn Buckner (analyst), Jeremiah Johnson (sideline reporter/host)

    Radio: 93.5/107.5 The Fan - Mark Boyle (play-by-play), Eddie Gill (analyst), Pat Boylan (studio host)
    Tickets


    After the All-Star break, the Pacers will open the second half of the season at Gainbridge Fieldhouse against Cade Cunningham and the Detroit Pistons on Thursday, Feb. 22 at 7:00 PM ET. Find Tickets >>
    Last edited by owl; 02-10-2024, 04:07 PM.
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  • #2
    They get debut of Bogey, we get McBuckets. No Hartenstein, Randle, OG, or Robinson on there side. If there’s a must win regular season game in the NBA, this one’s it for us IMO. We should be surly after losing last one there and our embarrassing performance Thursday. Anything less than a competitive loss with as much effort as we can possibly give will add to my questions about our trajectory.
    Last edited by D-BONE; 02-10-2024, 03:39 PM.
    I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

    -Emiliano Zapata

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    • #3
      Originally posted by D-BONE View Post
      If there’s a must win regular season game in the NBA, this one’s it for us IMO. We should be surly after losing last one there. Anything less than a competitive loss with as much effort as we can possibly give will add to my questions about our trajectory.
      Agree with so much and it sounds crazy with 29 games to go but this could be such a momentum builder or collapse. They just have to stay at least 6 and not get into that silly play-in at season's end.
      You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RWB View Post
        Agree with so much and it sounds crazy with 29 games to go but this could be such a momentum builder or collapse. They just have to stay at least 6 and not get into that silly play-in at season's end.
        Yep. Another half *** effort would be disastrous.
        I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

        -Emiliano Zapata

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        • #5
          Let's go!!!

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          • #6
            Gonna watch Purdue-IU instead of you playing our second string. Waiting until after the break for some players to come back.
            The poster formerly known as Rimfire

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DisplacedKnick View Post
              Gonna watch Purdue-IU instead of you playing our second string. Waiting until after the break for some players to come back.
              Take it you’re a Boiler. For any neutral to IU fan, that game is a waste of time. Although a win would solidify Woodson’s job another year, if he wants to continue.
              I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

              -Emiliano Zapata

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              • #8
                Pacers vs. Knick? If we’re only playing against 1 Knick, maybe we got a chance.
                Last edited by sav; 02-10-2024, 04:13 PM.

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                • #9
                  I will fix that

                  Most of them are out so kinda accurate
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                  • #10
                    Hartenstein being out is huge. He bullied us last game.

                    They still easily have enough firepower to beat us at home. They'll probably run away from us here soon, but it'd be nice to have that tiebreaker just in case.

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                    • #11
                      If we lose this game it's going to be really hard for me to be excited about this team. This is a must win game to build some momentum and there is no excuse to lose to the Knicks with all the injuries they have.

                      Will be interesting to see rotations and how much Doug plays. I think people are under rating Doug because he's been playing limited minutes on the trash spurs team. In our offense, I think he can easily give us similar/better production than what Buddy was giving us. It wouldn't surprise me to see Rick give him a lot of minutes, I know many are thinking the Buddy minutes are more likely to go to Mathurin/Sheppard (which they should), but again don't be surprised if Dougie turns into Ricks new security blanket.
                      *removed* Just keep politics and religion completely out of it, please.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jon Theodore View Post
                        I know many are thinking the Buddy minutes are more likely to go to Mathurin/Sheppard (which they should), but again don't be surprised if Dougie turns into Ricks new security blanket.
                        Uhg, I think you're right and that would be the most depressing, frustrating, and worst-case scenario of our trade deadline.

                        I will give McBuckets a chance. Maybe he will turn into the perfect fit for the team, but I seriously doubt it.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, it’s really big for Hali, Pascal, Turner, mathurin and Neismith. Need 3/4 to come up strong. Like to see whoever gets 2nd unit C do well. In fact, I’d love to see an IJax breakout game. But id settle for continued strong Jalen minutes too. All our bigs need to bring some toughness. For Myles that means about a 1/3 chance.
                          I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

                          -Emiliano Zapata

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                          • #14
                            Is there a pacers radio pregame link? When do they announce game time decisions? Brunson killed us last time

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                            • #15
                              Disagree that this is a must win. Sure as **** would like to win but probably best to manage your expectations until after the ASB. Probably going to continue to be very choppy for these next three. Way too early in the season still to call anything a must win.

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