The Rules of Pacers Digest

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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

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B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
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Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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Game #23 Pacers vs Trailblazers

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  • Game #23 Pacers vs Trailblazers

    On to would be a good time to get back to winning

    Game Preview

    After dropping two straight and three of four to begin their seven-game road trip, the Pacers (12-10) will be trying to turn things around on Sunday night in Portland against the Trail Blazers (12-11).

    Indiana's defense has struggled on the road trip, especially over the last two games. The Blue & Gold surrendered a season-high 139 points in a 23-point loss in Sacramento on Wednesday, then gave up a 137 in a 20-point defeat at Utah on Friday, the Pacers' two largest margins of defeat this year.

    On the other end, the Pacers' offense -- which had been firing at all cylinders last month as Indiana won seven of eight -- has become more stagnant. Star point guard Tyrese Haliburton played through a groin injury against the Jazz, but the NBA's assists leader dished out a season-low four dimes, snapping a seven-game streak with 10 or more assists.

    "I think it started with me," Haliburton said of Indiana's struggles on Friday. "The ball movement kind of stopped. They kind of forced us to play more iso ball. We took some tough shots, turned the ball over and didn't really get into our offense."

    Sunday's matchup with Portland may present a bounce-back opportunity for Indiana. The Blazers had dropped seven of eight before winning Saturday night in Utah and will be on the second night of a back-to-back Sunday against a rested Pacers squad.

    The Blazers' recent struggles are linked directly to star guard Damian Lillard's calf injury. The six-time All-Star has missed seven straight games, but has targeted Sunday against the Pacers for his return to action.

    Prior to his injury, Lillard was performing up to his usual high standards, averaging 26.3 points and 7 assists over his first 11 games. One of the best shooters in 3-point shooters in league history -- the 32-year-old already ranks ninth all-time with 2,180 career threes -- Lillard has attempted over 10 threes per game this season, although he has only converted them at a 33.3 percent clip.

    Portland does have some momentum, however, as Lillard prepares to return thanks to third-year guard Anfernee Simons, whose career night propelled the Blazers to a 116-111 win over the Jazz on Saturday. Simons dropped a career-best 45 points in the victory, going 7-for-12 from 3-point range.

    Projected Starters

    Pacers: G - Tyrese Haliburton, G - Andrew Nembhard, F - Buddy Hield, F - Jalen Smith, C - Myles Turner

    Trail Blazers: G - Anfernee Simons, G - Justise Winslow, F - Trendon Watfor, F - Jerami Grant, C - Jusuf Nurkic

    Injury Report

    Pacers: Tyrese Haliburton - questionable (sore left groin), Chris Duarte - out (left ankle sprain), Daniel Theis - out (right knee surgery)

    Trail Blazers: Drew Eubanks - questionable (right hip contusion), Damian Lillard - questionable (right soleus strain), Josh Hart - doubtful (left ankle sprain), Keon Johnson - out (left hip pointer), Nassir Little - out (right femoral head impaction fracture), Gary Payton II - out (return to competition reconditioning)

    Last Meeting

    March 20, 2022: The Pacers rolled Portland on their way to a 129-98 victory at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in what would prove to be Indiana's final win of the 2021-22 season.

    Oshae Brissett led seven Pacers in double figures with 24 points on 8-of-10 shooting and also pulled down nine rebounds. Justin Anderson added 18 points, six rebounds, and four assists, while Jalen Smith and Terry Taylor each scored 17 off the bench.

    The game featured one of the highlights of the season, when off a turnover, Tyrese Haliburton threw an over the shoulder pass to a streaking Lance Stephenson, who then went behind the back on a dish to Brissett, who finished the sequence with a two-hand reverse slam.

    "I think it's one of the most unselfish plays of the season," Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle said. "It'll be a highlight."

    Josh Hart led Portland with 26 points in the loss, while Trendon Watford contributed 17 points and eight rebounds.

    • The Pacers have lost 12 of their last 13 games in Portland, with their only win in that stretch coming in a Jan. 14, 2021 game that had no fans due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Prior to that, Indiana's last win at Portland was on Nov. 28, 2007.
    • Indiana will be on the first night of a back-to-back on Sunday, as the Blue & Gold play at Golden State on Monday. The Pacers are 2-2 on the season when playing on the first half of a back-to-back, but 4-0 on the second night.
    • Portland will make its lone regular season visit to Gainbridge Fieldhouse on Jan. 6.

    Broadcast Information (TV and Radio Listings >>)

    TV: Bally Sports Indiana - Chris Denari (play-by-play), Quinn Buckner (analyst), Jeremiah Johnson (sideline reporter/host)

    Radio: 93.5/107.5 The Fan - Mark Boyle (play-by-play), Pat Boylan (studio host)


    After a seven-game road trip, the Pacers will return to Indiana to host Bradley Beal and the Washington Wizards at Gainbridge Fieldhouse on Friday, Dec. 9 at 7:00 PM ET. Find Tickets >>

  • #2
    Portland won a hard fought game in Utah last night...yes the same Utah that crushed us the night before...should be interesting to see if Portland feels the after-effects in the back-to-back situation. Simons had 33 at the half and like 43 after 3...he did look a bit tired in the 4th so lets see how he recovers...hes who knows

    and will Nurkic continue the trend of big tall white guys playing like Wilt against the Pacers? hopefully hes tired from last night

    Portland played very aggressively on both ends last night...will again be interesting to see how they play tonight as Portland is never an easy place to play...
    Wemby 2023

    Sabonis 2024


    • #3
      We usually stink it up in Portland. We've only won once there (two years ago) in the past 14 seasons. If Tyrese is experiencing even a little discomfort, give him the night off.


      • #4
        Lillard may be back today as well
        "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


        • #5
          Lillard back and Hali/TJ Nash out.

          Let the tanking begging ..
          @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!


          • #6
            Lol... Who the F is going to back up Nembhard?


            • #7
              Originally posted by 712Jefferson View Post
              Lol... Who the F is going to back up Nembhard?


              • #8
                Prediction is our favorite PD guy is going to look horrible tonight as he won’t have Haligod to give him easy layups.

                Don’t think he is getting garbage numbers tonight.
                @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!


                • #9
                  Originally posted by rimrattler View Post

                  I guess. Should be... um.... interesting. If I'm Portland, I would just full court press us all night long.


                  • #10
                    I'm interested in how Nembhard does as the starter tonight. I was thinking what trade assets the Pacers have to make that next step towards going after a title the next few years and Nembhard unfortunately may have to be used to get that missing piece.


                    • #11
                      Looks like a night of flipping channels back and forth with the Colts playing at the same time.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
                        Prediction is our favorite PD guy is going to look horrible tonight as he won’t have Haligod to give him easy layups.

                        Don’t think he is getting garbage numbers tonight.
                        Depends if Nembhard is the starter. He had 10 assists against Utah.


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rimrattler View Post

                          Depends if Nembhard is the starter. He had 10 assists against Utah.
                          I didn’t mention the part Grant/Nurkic are going to be in there as well.
                          @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!


                          • #14
                            Nurkic may have a hardon to destroy the Pacers after the phone incident lol


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rimrattler View Post
                              Nurkic may have a hardon to destroy the Pacers after the phone incident lol
                              Don't know what this is.
                              "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference