2022-23 NBA Random Thoughts thread, Volume XIX: Perfectly Balanced, as All Things Should Be

[MyFavMartin]

They tanked for 2 years before this season they got good players and a future now...they last playoffs in 19/20 lost to Harden Rockets in 7....Pacers in 19/20 got swept by Miami...next 2 years lost in play in....got nothing good in draft...abused/misused and then traded Joker of the east to be Joker 2.0 in the west ....only to resign Turner 4ever and be 1st round exit at best 4ever....

So Duarte, Mathurin and Nembhard are nothing good?

your love affair of Domas… go be a Kings fan. His defense was lacking and it was a win-win. Hali is a huge addition to the team and the only way to get him was to give up Sabonis, that roster cleared redundancy for both teams

we need better play at the 3 and 4 which will come through the draft (very deep this year) and/or development

KP has done extremely well playing the hands he has been given. Not all organizations or owners are as patient as others. Look at his trade record and tell me which weren’t good or a win for the Ps

[Tony Valente]

KP has done extremely well playing the hands he has been given. [...] Look at his trade record and tell me which weren't good or a win for the Ps

No executive whose team has won exactly 0 playoff games in 4 years, while trying to "win now", can ever be considered a good executive. Judging strictly based on results here. The target should be 16. That's 0 out of 16, for 4 years in a row.

[able]

So Duarte, Mathurin and Nembhard are nothing good?

your love affair of Domas… go be a Kings fan. His defense was lacking and it was a win-win. Hali is a huge addition to the team and the only way to get him was to give up Sabonis, that roster cleared redundancy for both teams

we need better play at the 3 and 4 which will come through the draft (very deep this year) and/or development

KP has done extremely well playing the hands he has been given. Not all organizations or owners are as patient as others. Look at his trade record and tell me which weren’t good or a win for the Ps

Mathurin = Homerun
Nembhard = (for position of draft) at least 3rd base
Duarte = wait and see

The nonsensical argument that Domas was/is a bad defender is one carried by some, however not only did he defend better than our DPOY and he does so now too, whilst being statistically one of the better defender in the NBA. so that is what it is; nonsense
I understand the trade, and will agree that there was no way on earth that Kings would have let Haliburton go for Turner, even IF we took Buddy, so no need to create false arguments, only if you want to indicate that they WOULD have taken Turner by making Domas more flawed than he is, that will become a valid argument.
There is no redundancy of a player of Hali's quality nor Domas, Redundant players would be Turner, Goga, Jackson(though he more of a project) and I can think of a few others on our roster that can easily be replaced (redundant = not or no longer needed or useful; superfluous) but Domas wasn't nor was Haliburton.

You prefer Turner, that is your prerogative, no need for strawman arguments there.

My opinion is that Myles is hard to stomach and definitely not the player we hoped he could become, in order to up his average score he was made the focus of the offense, and promptly stopped defending all together (whilst I maintain he never was able to stay in front of his man) By the "block" matrix Jackson is an even better defender than Turner!

"fans" are allowed an opinion not equal to yours, or do you want to tell me to go be a Kings fan as well?

[Guest]

KP had an idea that Domas was not a star....Kings valued him as one...build a team around him...and look at the purple beam now....home court this year and...CONTENDERS next season....and if you resign Turner you're are doomed until Herb is dead.

[Dece]

OKC sucked much longer to get to the PO. So tank so we might get lucky in the lotto and win 8-9 years later after said top 5 draft picks mature rather than win now?

thanks for drawing the line where you did. wouldn’t want the conference finals appearances by the pacers in 2013 and 2014 to screw up your argument

Tell me you don't know anything about NBA history without telling me you don't know anything about NBA history.

year -- OKC:IND

2014 10:10 << wow guess it's really important I drew the line at 2015 big difference here
2013 5:11
2012 13:6
2011 9:1
2010 2:0

Playoff wins:
OKC: 39
IND: 28

Playoff series wins:
OKC: 8
IND: 5

Yea, this sure makes the Pacers look like the franchise to envy. Take off the nostalgia glasses and return to reality.

[CJ Jones]

Pacers have to find a way to keep Caitlin Cooper writing about the Pacers. Get it ****ing done PS&E.

[CJ Jones]

Kings will never be serious contenders. Super fun though.

[BornIndy]

Calling it now, Haliburton will be named an All-Star starter tonight

[Cubs231721]

Calling it now, Haliburton will be named an All-Star starter tonight

There's no way. You have to be in top 5 of fan voting to have any shot and realistically the top 3. And there's no way Haliburton got even close to that. Even if the media and players vote him as a starter, it won't be enough.

[MyFavMartin]

No executive whose team has won exactly 0 playoff games in 4 years, while trying to "win now", can ever be considered a good executive. Judging strictly based on results here. The target should be 16. That's 0 out of 16, for 4 years in a row.

So RC Buford....?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1992556-nba-tanking-draft-lottery-success-doesnt-mean-future-titles

[SaintLouisan]

Tell me you don't know anything about NBA history without telling me you don't know anything about NBA history.

year -- OKC:IND

2014 10:10 << wow guess it's really important I drew the line at 2015 big difference here
2013 5:11
2012 13:6
2011 9:1
2010 2:0

Playoff wins:
OKC: 39
IND: 28

Playoff series wins:
OKC: 8
IND: 5

Yea, this sure makes the Pacers look like the franchise to envy. Take off the nostalgia glasses and return to reality.

Conference Finals appearances in the past decade:

OKC - 2
IND - 2

Meh

[Guest]

Conference Finals appearances in the past decade:

OKC - 2
IND - 2

Meh

Finals appearances in the past decade
1-0 OKC

[Guest]

Do you want the pacers to go through what okc did to get where they’re at? Ps doing just fine adjusting on the fly

OKC has a better young core and has 15 first round picks for the next 5 years

[Tony Valente]

So RC Buford....?

Are the Spurs in win now mode?

[vnzla81]

Embid is not starting in the all star, now watch him destroy.