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Notes from Pacers Media Day 2022

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    Notes from Pacers Media Day 2022

    By: Scott Agness -Sep 27

    A new Pacers season got underway Monday at the St. Vincent Center. Players and coaches were on the court, but this time it was for the cameras.

    Each season begins with a media day, a time for local reporters to talk with the head coach and players, plus a productive day to capture content that you’ll see all season.

    Like headshots, photos for the web and social media, snapshots for promotions months down the road, video for the team introduction and much more. That’s why there were over 20 media members there, plus photographers at individual stations.

    (I also want to note that it was the first one in 37 years without longtime PR director David Benner, who retired after last season, and the second one without my pal, Frank McGrath.)

    It all began around 10 a.m. and ran through the afternoon. Some stuff was captured at the practice facility while other stuff was completed across the street at Gainbridge Fieldhouse.

    Each player visits a few dozen stations and is navigated by a team employee.

    The team’s branding for this season is “Revved Up.” This is my 11th season covering the team and the first time when the playoffs are not an expectation or even being talked about. That’s because, at last, the team pivoted and is now all-in on a rebuild.

    It’s never ideal, but it is necessary here in Indy. And so team owner Herb Simon finally signed off on it about nine months ago.

    You’ll see a roster full of athletes who are motivated to compete and win. It skews younger and features many players that simply need game reps. There’s many guards, too many bigs and a lack of depth on the wing. That can be corrected over the next year.

    The Pacers have valuable players on good contracts that they could trade and cap space to take back players and picks, of course.

    But for now, it’s the start of the new season. So everyone is in a good mood and excited for the possibilities.

    “It’s an exciting time for us,” head coach Rick Carlisle said entering his second season back in Indy. “Summer has gone by pretty fast. A successful summer with summer league and developmental stuff with our guys. We’ve had the majority of our guys in for most of the month and that’s been a very positive thing as well.

    “I’m really looking forward to this. This is an official new era of Pacers basketball and it certainly is a direction of youth, a direction of going all-in on a group of guys that are young, talented, of extremely high character and tremendous upside.”


    Roster notes
    18 players under contract (teams can have up to 20 in camp)

    14 players with guaranteed contracts

    One of two two-way slots filled, by Kendall Brown

    James Johnson and Langston Galloway likely competing for the Positive Veteran Influence role

    Don’t expect for Daniel Theis to be with the team past the trade deadline

    Three of five starting spots are guaranteed: Haliburton, Smith and Turner

    The age gap…
    Three rookies | Four second-year players | 12 players with three seasons or less | SEVEN players born in the 2000s

    Health Updates
    Playing with his home country of Georgia in EuroBasket, Goga Bitadze rolled an ankle in their first game against Belgium, which negatively impacted his experience. He says he feels healthy, but it still bothers him when doing different things. He’s underwent scans and the team will be cautious with him.

    Deividas Sirvydis suffered an ankle injury last week in a pick-up games and will not be available right away. He was signed to an Exhibit 10 contract.

    Jalen Smith tweaked his ankle last Friday, but is now full-go.

    Daniel Theis was sent home from media day on Monday with symptoms despite testing negative for Covid multiple times. He needs another negative Covid test to return, which is expected on Wednesday.

    We didn’t get to talk with every player on Monday, but the core of the roster did meet with reporters, along with coach. Notes and key quotes are below.

    Rick Carlisle
    He plans to spend twice as much time on defense compared to offense in training camp. The defense was atrocious to end last season — injuries and lack of player availability was a big factor — and they struggled mightily without Myles Turner as the anchor.

    What will be considered a successful season for this young, rebuilding team? A lot of it will come down to the eye test, he said. It’s not about wins, player averages or specific analytics. They want to see growth from players and the team each month.

    He talked often with Myles Turner in the offseason, attended several of his offseason workouts and even had him over to his Dallas home for dinner.

    “Myles is a pro and Myles has made it clear to me that he’s excited about being here. He’s excited about playing with a pass-first starting point guard like Tyrese and that’s where we are right now.”

    Carlisle expects to use at least a 10-man rotation. “We’re going to use our depth as an advantage, we’re going to use it as something to drive our development internally every day.”

    He called veteran James Johnson: “one of the toughest guys in the league, who is a great connector in the locker room and has a charismatic element as a teammate.”

    On Langston Galloway: “What he has done with USA Basketball is what we want to preach here for our players — which is a high level of work ethic, love of the game, resourcefulness and just being ready all the time. We feel James and Langston can really add to our training camp situation.”

    And the most telling quote, I thought, was this: “We are reseting the culture, the spirit and the attitude. Our players are going to have a tremendous amount to do with that.

    Tyrese Haliburton
    He has a whole new set of expectations for himself and is taking more ownership of the team. He’s active and loud on the court, and engages with everyone in the organization regarding how they can be better — and a more attractive franchise for free agents.

    He wants to take a big leap defensively and take on more challenges. That will enable him to have more of a complete game.

    Asked about this team’s identity, he said “I think there’s a lot of time to figure that out, but I do think, first and foremost, we have to control what we can.”

    He raved about Turner, his defensive presence and then went off on a tangent about his fellow point guard, T.J. McConnell.

    “I think T.J. is universally loved, right? I’ve never met a person who is like, “I don’t like T.J. McConnell.’ I just love that guy. Like, I don’t know what it is about him, he’s just such a great person. We have a really, really great relationship and he hypes me up in certain ways that I need.”

    Chris Duarte
    The first question, as you’d expect was about the toe. It led to laughs to begin. “I’m doing good,” he replied. “I’m doing better. Thanks for asking.”

    I was told the toe was doing better over the summer, then he returned home and it was painful again. He played in one summer league game, but that was it. But the fact that he didn’t need another surgery and says he’s doing well is a positive sign.

    He mentioned this season being about learning several times. He’s much more comfortable now than he was a year ago after the draft and entering a whole new environment.

    Buddy Hield
    He brought a veteran perspective. He’s not even that old, just 29, but was very clearly comfortable and at ease. This is new to him, in a sense, because he’s gone to camp with the Sacramento Kings the past five seasons.

    Asked about the vibe, he said, “You bring a bunch of good guys that have great personalities and great fits and understands and likes each other, it’s easy to have a great vibe. I think the guys that we have in the locker room are guys that love each other already, guys that was to grow and learn and have fun playing with each other.”

    On being mentioned in trade rumors, something he’s used to by now: “No matter what happens, I love playing basketball. Once I have a job and as long as I can play in the league for a long time, I’m happy. It doesn’t matter where I am. I’m just glad to play basketball at a high level with the best players in the world.”

    He praised coach Carlisle for letting him be himself and play freely, something he mentioned right away after being acquired by the Pacers. He’s grateful for a fresh start.

    The Pacers value his shooting, experience and durability. “I always say I can play hurt, I just can’t play injured. As long as I’m not injured, I’ll be out there for sure.”

    Jalen Smith
    He’ll be starting at power forward this season and playing alongside Myles. There’s plenty of competition in the frontcourt, too many really, but that will lead to some good battles.

    “Like they say, iron sharpers iron so everybody is going to keep going at each other every day trying to get everybody better. That’s our main goal, trying to make everybody better around us and I feel as though that’s going to be very crucial for us later on in the season.”

    Defending other 4s will be his biggest test. He can shoot and has the green light from distance, but opposing teams will try to exploit mismatches.

    Smith spent most of the offseason home in Baltimore. It was a big summer for him, first signing his first free-agent deal and deciding to remain in Indiana. Then he got engaged to his long-time girlfriend.

    “It’s always a great time taking that step into the married world,” he said of his summer. “It’s just been an eventful summer and fun for me navigating the uncertainty. It’s been an experience, I’ll say that.”

    Also asked about the identity, he kept it simple. “Have fun.”

    Myles Turner
    He acknowledged the awkwardness and uncertainty that comes with being in trade rumors and more specifically, the Pacers going after a player (Deandre Ayton) at the same position. He addressed what that was like for what he says will be the only time. I’ll have another story on that soon.

    “It’s something I know that I’m numb to,” he said. “It’s just what comes with this business. There are no hard feelings in this business, you have to take the emotions out of everything and I’ve learned that at a young age and I still hold true to that.”

    Asked whether the Pacers offered an extension or if they did, would he be interested, he said “I can’t answer that right now. I feel like you know that. It’s one of those things that everything is going to have to play out how it’s suppose to. But I’m in this uniform right now and I’m going to represent myself and the team in that manner.”

    “Right now” was said many times by and about Turner.

    Don’t expect either to happen. He’s set on hitting free agency for the first time and both maximizing his contract size while signing up for a situation that suits him.

    He said he sees himself as the big brother in the locker room and looks forward to playing with many of the new guys, especially Tyrese Haliburton. He suffered a stress reaction in his foot in January and then didn’t finish the season, so he never played with Haliburton or Buddy Hield. And didn’t get a ton of time with Chris Duarte.

    He called Haliburton the best young point guard in the league.

    “I don’t think I’ve scratched the surface of my potential whatsoever,” Turner said. “I’m looking forward to big things this season, I’m looking forward to big things the rest of my career. But, I got to let my play do the talking.”

    His offseason was about rehabbing, then getting healthy after being unable to finish the past two seasons. “From all the scans, it’s 100% healthy and now it’s just a matter of getting back in shape.”

    He’s asked several times about now being a leader and he’s more of a lead-by-example guy. He’s not going to change his approach and looks forward to providing advice when he can.

    T.J. McConnell
    There’s always a spot on teams for players like him — team-first guys who get along with everyone and want what’s best for the team.

    “I don’t think my role is going to change. For the first time in my career, I’ll be more of a vocal leader. … I’ve always been a guy that leads by example, but I think I’m going to have to use my voice a little bit more this year.”

    On his wrist, which interrupted his season last year: “All good. I’m 100%.”

    He’s still “extremely happy” that he retuned to play in the final week of games to help erase all doubt in his mind — and make the offseason about getting better and not rehabbing.

    “These fans are great here and if we give anything less than 100%, I don’t think any of us will be happy about that.”

    Bennedict Mathurin
    I’ve heard nothing but great things about the team’s lottery pick. He’s impressed them with his skillset, his desire to be here and passion for winning. When the Pacers go on a losing streak this season, I think you’ll visually see it upset him. For now, he’s soaking up all he can.

    “It’s been fun learning and having new experiences,” he said. “Learning is a big part of me. I want to learn as much as I can. Having the vets back in town has been great, not only for me but for the team and building chemistry before the season.”

    There’s also been a reality check, like when Myles Turner returned last week “Having guys like Myles in the paint is the not the same thing. So adjusting to the game.”

    Goga Bitadze
    He’s just trying to get healthy. He dealt with a knee injury in the summer, returning to Indy for a month to rehab, and then he rolled his ankle while playing with the Georgia National Team. “I feel healthy, but we’re going to look at it and see how the ankle looks,” he said.

    It’s a big season for him, the last of his rookie-scale deal. There’s several guys ahead of him so he’ll need to make the most of any opportunity.

    “Whatever coach wants for me to do. I’m not the type of player who forces things.” He singles out the little things — like making hustle plays, offensive rebound and block shots.

    Isaiah Jackson
    The Pacers are very high on Jackson and his future. He’s barely 20 and just getting started. He’ll play with the second unit and get loads of opportunities.

    There’s been a lot of attention given to the fact that he’s gained about 20 pounds, though you can’t tell. None of that is unexpected. Players often make their biggest jump from Year 1 to Year 2 and so you can expect a lot from him.

    His No. 1 focus in the offseason was physicality so he can hold his own, be more stable and bang in the post. So he lifted 5-7 times per week, eating four meals per day — plus two protein shakes.

    “I feel like we’re going to feel like the underdogs, that’s always good in a situation like this. We’re coming in and playing hard. That’s one of the main things we’ve been keying on this summer while we were here.”

    With one season behind him, he has a routine, is more confident and improved his ball-handling.
    This quote by Rick Carlyle , I found interesting. Regarding Myles Turner he said "He’s excited about playing with a pass-first starting point guard like Tyrese and that’s where we are right now.”

    Do you guys see this as a veiled shot at Malcolm Brogdon?
    Sittin on top of the world!
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    Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post
    Do you guys see this as a veiled shot at Malcolm Brogdon?
    Well, it's the truth. We all know Brogdon played for Brogdon. I don't think Rick was saying anything negative towards Brogdon, he's just saying something positive about Haliburton.
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      Originally posted by PacerDude View Post

      Well, it's the truth. We all know Brogdon played for Brogdon. I don't think Rick was saying anything negative towards Brogdon, he's just saying something positive about Haliburton.
      Yeah , but RC was repeating what Myles said and I know for a while Brogdon was at least top ten in assists per game, but I'm thinkin Myles and Brogdon weren't the best of friends

      Just speculation though
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        A little off topic, but did you all see Ayton’s response to the question regarding his contract situation this summer? It is pretty great.
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          Originally posted by kent beckley View Post
          A little off topic, but did you all see Ayton’s response to the question regarding his contract situation this summer? It is pretty great.
          Nope?

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            Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post

            Yeah , but RC was repeating what Myles said and I know for a while Brogdon was at least top ten in assists per game, but I'm thinkin Myles and Brogdon weren't the best of friends

            Just speculation though
            didn't they go to africa together in the offseason? so im sure they were friends, but maybe myles recognizes that brogon wasn't a real point
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              Originally posted by dal9 View Post

              didn't they go to africa together in the offseason? so im sure they were friends, but maybe myles recognizes that brogon wasn't a real point
              Good point
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                Originally posted by kent beckley View Post
                A little off topic, but did you all see Ayton’s response to the question regarding his contract situation this summer? It is pretty great.
                Unpopular opinion. We dodged a bullet when the Suns matched it. Imagine having this guy in our locker room when he doesn't like something here (minutes, assignments, partners)? At this point I'd prefer not to deal with him at all, stay away. You got your bag, act like a pro, god riddance.

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                  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/16hTBeJEB2E

                  WTF hahaha he wanted to be here and I would take him in a heartbeat. I wouldnt be scared that he would pull something like this off here, because he obviously doesn't feel valued by Phoenix which I would say is...correct?!
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                    Originally posted by siomi View Post

                    Unpopular opinion. We dodged a bullet when the Suns matched it. Imagine having this guy in our locker room when he doesn't like something here (minutes, assignments, partners)? At this point I'd prefer not to deal with him at all, stay away. You got your bag, act like a pro, god riddance.
                    Interesting stuff.

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