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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

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"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

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"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

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When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

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Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

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The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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Game #18 Pacers vs Pelicans

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    Game #18 Pacers vs Pelicans

    I guarantee a win tonight....stepping out on a limb

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    ​​​​​​https://www.nba.com/pacers/preview-p...elicans-211120



    ​​​​​​Game Preview: Pacers vs Pelicans

    Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:00 PM ET at Gainbridge Fieldhouse


    Matchup


    After a difficult three-game road trip, the Pacers (6-11) return to Gainbridge Fieldhouse to take on the New Orleans Pelicans (3-14) on Saturday night. Both teams will be on the second night of a back-to-back, with Indiana coming off an eventual 121-118 loss at Charlotte.

    For the first two-and-a-half quarters on Friday, the Pacers put together a lackluster performance, falling into a 25-point hole, the nadir of an 0-3 road trip. But after head coach Rick Carlisle benched his starters midway through the third quarter, the Blue & Gold got much better effort from its bench.

    Indiana's reserves scratched and clawed their way back all the way until the final buzzer. They trimmed the deficit to 13 entering the fourth quarter, to seven minutes into the final frame, and then mounted a furious rally over the final 1:32, forcing four turnovers during an 8-1 run and actually having the ball in the final seconds with a chance to force overtime, but couldn't get a clean look.

    After the game, Carlisle had plenty of praise for the way the bench fought, while putting blame on himself for the lack of energy earlier in the game that led to the large deficit.

    "That's on me," Carlisle said. "I take full responsibility. I'm deciding who starts and who's out there to start the second half. I've got to do a better job of getting these guys ready to play."

    The starters will be more rested than usual on the second night of a back-to-back on Saturday and the hope is that they come with inspired energy from the opening tip.

    The Pelicans own one of the league's worst records, but have been playing better of late. After starting the year 1-12, they've won two of their last four, including a 94-81 win over the Clippers on Friday. Their improved play has coincided with the return of leading scorer Brandon Ingram, who missed seven games with a hip injury. Ingram had his first double-double of the season with 17 points and 12 rebounds
    Projected Starters



    Malcolm Brogdon



    Chris Duarte



    Caris LeVert



    Domantas Sabonis



    Myles Turner



    Devonte' Graham



    Nickeil Alexander-Walker



    Josh Hart



    Brandon Ingram



    Jonas Valanciunas
    Injury Report


    Pacers: Isaiah Jackson - out (G League assignment), T.J. Warren – out (left foot stress fracture)

    Pelicans: Devonte' Graham - questionable (sore left foot), Daulton Hommes - out (right fibular stress fracture), Zion Williamson - out (right foot fracture)
    Last Meeting


    Feb. 5, 2021: The Pacers rallied from an 18-point deficit to take a late lead, but ultimately fell to New Orleans at Gainbridge Fieldhouse, 114-113.

    The two teams were tied at 110 after Doug McDermott's 3-pointer with 1:54 to play, but back-to-back baskets by Steven Adams and Brandon Ingram gave the hosts a four-point lead in the final minute. Myles Turner hit a three to make it a one-point game and after a stop, the Blue & Gold had a chance to take a lead. But Turner missed the potential game-winning shot in the final seconds, as the Pelicans escaped with a road victory.

    "It can be cool to talk about how we came back," Justin Holiday said postgame. "But what we're trying to do every time we come on the floor is put a full game together."

    Holiday had a team-high 22 points, going 7-for-13 from 3-point range. Jeremy Lamb added 17 points, six rebounds, and three steals, while McDermott scored 14 off the bench.

    Ingram led all scorers with 30 points to go along with six rebounds and seven assists. Lonzo Ball added 20 points and nine boards, while Zion Williamson tallied 18 points and five assists.
    Noteworthy
    • The Pelicans have won in their last two visits to Indianapolis.
    • Pelicans guard Devonte' Graham and Pacers guard Jeremy Lamb were teammates in Charlotte in the 2018-19 season.
    • The Pacers are 4-2 at Gainbridge Fieldhouse so far this season, but just 2-9 on the road.
    Tickets


    The Pacers will return from a three-game road trip to host the New Orleans Pelicans at Gainbridge Fieldhouse on Saturday, Nov. 20 at 7:00 PM ET. Find Tickets ?


    Broadcast Information TV & Radio Listings ?


    TV: Bally Sports Indiana - Chris Denari (play-by-play), Quinn Buckner (analyst), Jeremiah Johnson (sideline reporter/host)
    Radio: 93.5/107.5 The Fan - Mark Boyle (play-by-play), Eddie Gill (analyst), Eddie Gill (analyst), Pat Boylan (sideline reporter/host)
    Last edited by owl; 11-20-2021, 12:48 PM.
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    I won't be watching this one, as much as I'm titillated by the great Brogdon-Graham matchup. No need to see us play a team even worse than us right now.
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    • #3
      Would be interesting to see what happens if they lose this one badly. You're heading into a big stretch of home games, like 9 home games in the next roughly 20 days or so. That's a lot of attendance going down the shitter and a lot of money. A loss tonight and I think the team makes some kind of move before the Wednesday game to try and create some interest in the team.


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        Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
        Would be interesting to see what happens if they lose this one badly. You're heading into a big stretch of home games, like 9 home games in the next roughly 20 days or so. That's a lot of attendance going down the shitter and a lot of money. A loss tonight and I think the team makes some kind of move before the Wednesday game to try and create some interest in the team.
        Sadly the next two home games (after tonight) are going to be very well attended. You have the Lakers in town on Wednesday and they still to this day bring in a large crowd and then the next game is the black Friday game that they always incorporate the circle lighting ceremony into.

        Now blow both of those games as well as tonight? Not sure but I just feel there is nothing that the team can do at this moment because not a single player outside of Sabonis and Duarte has any significant trade value and I'm not sure Sabonis trade value is super high at the moment but you still could get something good for him.



        Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13
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          Originally posted by Peck View Post

          Sadly the next two home games (after tonight) are going to be very well attended. You have the Lakers in town on Wednesday and they still to this day bring in a large crowd and then the next game is the black Friday game that they always incorporate the circle lighting ceremony into.

          Now blow both of those games as well as tonight? Not sure but I just feel there is nothing that the team can do at this moment because not a single player outside of Sabonis and Duarte has any significant trade value and I'm not sure Sabonis trade value is super high at the moment but you still could get something good for him.
          It's way cool how we locked up Brogdon for no reason.


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            Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post

            It's way cool how we locked up Brogdon for no reason.
            Sometimes I wonder if the front office doesn't just do things to troll the "smart" fans.


            Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13
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            • #7
              What kind of mind set might Brogdon have if the Pacers refuse to negotiate an extension?

              Someone you just used a #1 on too.

              Does that send a negative message to other players around the league?

              It's a player driven league now so we need to dig out the chap stick and pucker up cause we need to start kissing sweet sweet ***.

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                Originally posted by Jose Slaughter View Post
                What kind of mind set might Brogdon have if the Pacers refuse to negotiate an extension?
                Am I missing something ?? He just got another 2 years and $45 million.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post

                  It's way cool how we locked up Brogdon for no reason.
                  I am not sure what the thinking was. Maybe to lock him up at reasonable number so that when a trade comes along the team getting Brogden(and wanting him) have
                  him for a decent number?

                  More likely they think he is the future.

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                  • #10
                    too much sports watching today...pacers will be game #4, sport #3 for me...productivity: 0

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                      Brogdon-LeVert-Holiday-Sabonis-Turner starting lineup
                      I think KP is a Captain Planet fan. He believes that the collective will of five decent starters can outweigh the power of top-level talent. Too bad Herb won't cut the check for their Planeteer rings.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by indyman37 View Post
                        Brogdon-LeVert-Holiday-Sabonis-Turner starting lineup
                        Rick doesn’t want to kill Levert’s attitude by benching him. Duarte will be able to do more with second unit. Holiday is a guy that doesn’t need the ball to be effective so will be more cohesive with starting unit. Not a bad move.
                        "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.
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                          Is there any pictures of Brandon Ingram where he doesn’t look stoned.
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                            Originally posted by Winngtime85 View Post
                            Is there any pictures of Brandon Ingram where he doesn’t look stoned.
                            No. Not even baby pics
                            "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.
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                              Originally posted by rock747 View Post

                              Rick doesn’t want to kill Levert’s attitude by benching him. Duarte will be able to do more with second unit. Holiday is a guy that doesn’t need the ball to be effective so will be more cohesive with starting unit. Not a bad move.
                              Dudes been a career 6 man. I’ll kill his attitude and say he’s more towards Lou Williams and not Jaylen Brown
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