Re: Pacers vs. Nuggets Post-Game Thread: Pacers blow 25-point lead, drop 3rd straight
Stats up to the start of the 4th quarter for the 4 "culprits" of last night
JT: FG 3-5; Rb 6; Ast 8; TO 2
JO: FG 4-7; Rb 6; Ast 4; TO 2; FT 3-4
MD;FG 7-9; Rb 5; Ast 4; TO 0
DG; FG 4-13;Rb 2; Ast 1; TO 1
These are the actual stats, at the start of the 4th
In the 4th, DunDun and Tins get a breather of 2 minutes, JO 31 seconds and DG fouls out with 8 seconds left.
JO continuous the quarter going 1-7 from the field, (getting 4 FT's) getting 6 reb (3 Off) and creates 2 TO's (fouls)
MD continuous the quarter going 0-2 grabbing 1 board and 1 TO
DG continuous the 4th quarter with 2 - 5, 2 reb (off own miss) 1 Ast
JT continuous the 1st 9 minutes of the quarter going 1-4; 1 rb, 1 Ast and 1 TO
In the final 3 minutes JT adds 1-6; 1 Rb; 1 Ast; 1 TO
Now add to that the hard fact that movement in the 2nd half got less and less and less, Quis, Rush and Foster hardly played and Murphy despite 3 rebounds in about 9 minutes was also a non-factor nd it becomes painfully clear that the impression those final 5 minutes left are the impression that the game was that way.
Well it wasn't
JO is coming back from injury that disipated his conditioning, and should not play more then 30 minutes, so has to show serious fatigue towards the end of those 30, yet he played 35 and still picked up 6 of the 17 rebounds we had in the quarter.
Tins' final 3 minutes were at the very least 3 called plays by JOB out of time-outs, so someone had hopes higher then most of you.
I'll say it on more time, we have a new team, a new coach with a new system on O and on D, which was expected to last us till the AS break to "master" that system, yet here we are, 6 games in, and not as some predicted 0-6 but 3-3, and the sky is falling, JT and JO should be ridden out of town, tarred and feathered on a steel rail to never be seen again.
Two games in a row, Danny has put in a pathetic second half performance at least ( and I maintain that despite early good shooting in both games his D was suspect to say the least, this game his 1st q was ok, after that it was pure drama where he was more out of position on D then any other player we have) yet nobody says a word about that.
Diener; let's not even go there, DunDun dissapeared again in the 2nd half as well, he just for whatever reason stops moving the way he does the 1st half and if he's not moving he's not making shots, nor is he in position to get the ball,
Coach announced in his press conferecen that he will go more with Quis as the backup PG, I think that says enough about hte two we have "pencilled" in there, the "faith" aint there anymore.
I don't mind anyone pointing out that JO and JT shot abysmal in the 4th, it's true, but you see, no one else took the shot, and they did get the chance.
As someone pointed out, their bench ate DunDun and Granger for breakfast specially in the 2nd half, if our D fails, then we don't get the early shot, or the easy shot, which means we have to go with plan B, and since we hardly have mastered plan A, we haven't even thought about plan B by the looks of it and that is where we went to hell in a basket twice in two games.
For those of you screaming about JO and JT playing at all, Coach quite obviously thinks differently, and I tend to have more faith in his judgement.
I also have more faith in this team, they will get it eventually, we will get to the playoffs and make some noise there, once we start "getting it".
I am pleased by the play I see in the 1st half and really don't expect them to maintain it yet for a full game, but we will see plan B clicking in soon enough so we can hold on to those leads, the fact we can create them says a lot to me.
Am I not dissapointed in the loss ? yes of course I am, however I don't throw anyone under the train for it, we'll get there soon enough, untill then I support this team instead of bemoaning it or cursing it.
Stats up to the start of the 4th quarter for the 4 "culprits" of last night
JT: FG 3-5; Rb 6; Ast 8; TO 2
JO: FG 4-7; Rb 6; Ast 4; TO 2; FT 3-4
MD;FG 7-9; Rb 5; Ast 4; TO 0
DG; FG 4-13;Rb 2; Ast 1; TO 1
These are the actual stats, at the start of the 4th
In the 4th, DunDun and Tins get a breather of 2 minutes, JO 31 seconds and DG fouls out with 8 seconds left.
JO continuous the quarter going 1-7 from the field, (getting 4 FT's) getting 6 reb (3 Off) and creates 2 TO's (fouls)
MD continuous the quarter going 0-2 grabbing 1 board and 1 TO
DG continuous the 4th quarter with 2 - 5, 2 reb (off own miss) 1 Ast
JT continuous the 1st 9 minutes of the quarter going 1-4; 1 rb, 1 Ast and 1 TO
In the final 3 minutes JT adds 1-6; 1 Rb; 1 Ast; 1 TO
Now add to that the hard fact that movement in the 2nd half got less and less and less, Quis, Rush and Foster hardly played and Murphy despite 3 rebounds in about 9 minutes was also a non-factor nd it becomes painfully clear that the impression those final 5 minutes left are the impression that the game was that way.
Well it wasn't
JO is coming back from injury that disipated his conditioning, and should not play more then 30 minutes, so has to show serious fatigue towards the end of those 30, yet he played 35 and still picked up 6 of the 17 rebounds we had in the quarter.
Tins' final 3 minutes were at the very least 3 called plays by JOB out of time-outs, so someone had hopes higher then most of you.
I'll say it on more time, we have a new team, a new coach with a new system on O and on D, which was expected to last us till the AS break to "master" that system, yet here we are, 6 games in, and not as some predicted 0-6 but 3-3, and the sky is falling, JT and JO should be ridden out of town, tarred and feathered on a steel rail to never be seen again.
Two games in a row, Danny has put in a pathetic second half performance at least ( and I maintain that despite early good shooting in both games his D was suspect to say the least, this game his 1st q was ok, after that it was pure drama where he was more out of position on D then any other player we have) yet nobody says a word about that.
Diener; let's not even go there, DunDun dissapeared again in the 2nd half as well, he just for whatever reason stops moving the way he does the 1st half and if he's not moving he's not making shots, nor is he in position to get the ball,
Coach announced in his press conferecen that he will go more with Quis as the backup PG, I think that says enough about hte two we have "pencilled" in there, the "faith" aint there anymore.
I don't mind anyone pointing out that JO and JT shot abysmal in the 4th, it's true, but you see, no one else took the shot, and they did get the chance.
As someone pointed out, their bench ate DunDun and Granger for breakfast specially in the 2nd half, if our D fails, then we don't get the early shot, or the easy shot, which means we have to go with plan B, and since we hardly have mastered plan A, we haven't even thought about plan B by the looks of it and that is where we went to hell in a basket twice in two games.
For those of you screaming about JO and JT playing at all, Coach quite obviously thinks differently, and I tend to have more faith in his judgement.
I also have more faith in this team, they will get it eventually, we will get to the playoffs and make some noise there, once we start "getting it".
I am pleased by the play I see in the 1st half and really don't expect them to maintain it yet for a full game, but we will see plan B clicking in soon enough so we can hold on to those leads, the fact we can create them says a lot to me.
Am I not dissapointed in the loss ? yes of course I am, however I don't throw anyone under the train for it, we'll get there soon enough, untill then I support this team instead of bemoaning it or cursing it.
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