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Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

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  • Originally posted by BobbyMac View Post
    Hard to believe that the Pacers are 28-15 with out Vic and people are still complaining. Very sad
    people always want...MORE...SAD!

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    • Originally posted by bball_nomad View Post

      Weak azzz bleep. I can't wait for the triple double of 30+ points, 20+ rebounds and 15+ assists. We just need a shoot out quadruple OT game.
      If he gets that midrange shot down to a science he will get there.
      {o,o}
      |)__)
      -"-"-

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      • Originally posted by BobbyMac View Post
        Hard to believe that the Pacers are 28-15 with out Vic and people are still complaining. Very sad
        no more sad than nothing being done about the blatant trolling on this site

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        • Originally posted by BobbyMac View Post
          Hard to believe that the Pacers are 28-15 with out Vic and people are still complaining. Very sad
          I remember very well before the season how all talking heads on ESPN and etc. labeled Pacers "fringe playoff team". I thought that something is wrong with the world and I don't fit here anymore.
          In a place of Collison (good dude, retired too early), we got one of the best PG's in the league, certain Malcolm Brogdon, who played his first seasons in the NBA for one of the best teams.
          In a place of Flying High all the time Tyreke Evans - TJ Warren.
          Signed certain back-up point guard from the Sixers.
          Couple more exceptional signings too (Lamb, Tall Holiday).
          Drafted big bad azz Goga. I don't want to rub posters here wrong way, but I have an inkling that if Goga would start instead of Myles - game would be even more fun.

          Oh, NBA experts predicted that extending Domas would mean a certain doom for the team. "Domas would foul out quickly, he is a foul magnet", "Domas is not capable defending somebody somewhere" and plenty of other eye opening points.

          First season with Dipo in Indiana Pacers lost all 9 games when he was not on the floor.

          Last season situation was different.

          This season beginning was nightmarish with all the injuries and different lineups and rotations every game. Guess what? It's much better to have bad luck early in the season rather then come play-off time.
          I was really pissssed of on many posters here who were sharing their insights on Domas new contract. "If he wants (it's Domas agent wants, Domas can retire today and manage his fathers businesses) more than 20 mil per year he is out of his mind, we need to trade him, dude is nuts". Yeah, right. If Domas was due to new contract after this season - I can't even imagine the numbers he would be offered.

          Anyway, we all are beyond satisfied with the team so far. 28-15 without Dipo? With all the injuries? Come on guys, we should dancing naked in the streets, expressing our feelings.

          I all the time stated that Pacers this season will be legit contenders. West is getting older (except Dallas and Memphis), East is meh, except for the Bucks and Pacers
          12-12-2018, 09:20 PM


          Myles Turner during Vic's postgame interview: "Tell you what the East is in trouble now boy"

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          • Originally posted by bball_nomad View Post

            I remember very well before the season how all talking heads on ESPN and etc. labeled Pacers "fringe playoff team". I thought that something is wrong with the world and I don't fit here anymore.
            In a place of Collison (good dude, retired too early), we got one of the best PG's in the league, certain Malcolm Brogdon, who played his first seasons in the NBA for one of the best teams.
            In a place of Flying High all the time Tyreke Evans - TJ Warren.
            Signed certain back-up point guard from the Sixers.
            Couple more exceptional signings too (Lamb, Tall Holiday).
            Drafted big bad azz Goga. I don't want to rub posters here wrong way, but I have an inkling that if Goga would start instead of Myles - game would be even more fun.

            Oh, NBA experts predicted that extending Domas would mean a certain doom for the team. "Domas would foul out quickly, he is a foul magnet", "Domas is not capable defending somebody somewhere" and plenty of other eye opening points.

            First season with Dipo in Indiana Pacers lost all 9 games when he was not on the floor.

            Last season situation was different.

            This season beginning was nightmarish with all the injuries and different lineups and rotations every game. Guess what? It's much better to have bad luck early in the season rather then come play-off time.
            I was really pissssed of on many posters here who were sharing their insights on Domas new contract. "If he wants (it's Domas agent wants, Domas can retire today and manage his fathers businesses) more than 20 mil per year he is out of his mind, we need to trade him, dude is nuts". Yeah, right. If Domas was due to new contract after this season - I can't even imagine the numbers he would be offered.

            Anyway, we all are beyond satisfied with the team so far. 28-15 without Dipo? With all the injuries? Come on guys, we should dancing naked in the streets, expressing our feelings.

            I all the time stated that Pacers this season will be legit contenders. West is getting older (except Dallas and Memphis), East is meh, except for the Bucks and Pacers
            $168,200,000 for 5y...

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            • Originally posted by BobbyMac View Post
              Hard to believe that the Pacers are 28-15 with out Vic and people are still complaining. Very sad
              I have no complaints at all about last night. The right players were on the floor down the stretch. There was nothing sad about that game.

              Where people differ is whether every single Pacer player needs to be praised and need to stay on the team forever until they die or retire....or if perhaps some of us are allowed to express the fact we want some changes so the TEAM is better....without hearing a lecture on how to be a fan.

              Seriously though, there wouldn't be as much criticism about certain players if there wasn't just as much push back. There were FAR more posts in the post game thread by people unable to accept that some people are critical of a very few players on the team. People are regularly called trolls and those people are just fans with a different opinion. If Nate McMillan posted his thoughts here he'd probably be called a troll too because I largely agree with him.

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              • Originally posted by croz24 View Post

                I've rarely seen you post legitimate basketball insight on this board.

                Think a bit more critically than you are. Yes, there are in fact countless examples of times where it was better for a player/team to fail in the present, paving the way for a better future, especially if you are aware of the current potential of said player/team.
                That's wild. Are you seriously attacking kent beckley? Kent is one of the best and most level-headed posters on this forum.
                People who try to win arguments are the worst. The point of an argument isn't to find a winner, it is to find the truth.

                Originally posted by IrishPacer
                Empty vessels make the most noise.

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                • Same people that b*** about rookies or second year players like Goga/Little Holiday hate it when somebody points out that a five years veteran that makes almost 20mil sucks a**


                  Maybe if he wasn't making 20mil to suck and got so much playing time to suck nobody would complaint about it

                  And nope I refuse to praise an NBA player for doing s*** NBA players are supposed to do specially somebody that makes so damn much money, be productive as players that make that kind of money are supposed to be or GTFO.
                  @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                  • Originally posted by Nuntius View Post

                    That's wild. Are you seriously attacking kent beckley? Kent is one of the best and most level-headed posters on this forum.
                    HOW DARE YOU! #Greta
                    "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference

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                    • Actually, Domas also made a record in Lithuanian history.
                      He is the first-ever Lithuanian to get triple-double in NBA.
                      Can we say that he is/will be better than his father?
                      I'm really sorry because of my english (which is my 3-4 language) and I really appreciate Your patience. I hope this board will make me better

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                      • Originally posted by DeS View Post
                        Actually, Domas also made a record in Lithuanian history.
                        He is the first-ever Lithuanian to get triple-double in NBA.
                        Can we say that he is/will be better than his father?
                        he will never be as good...just physical limitations ....

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                        • Originally posted by DeS View Post
                          Actually, Domas also made a record in Lithuanian history.
                          He is the first-ever Lithuanian to get triple-double in NBA.
                          Can we say that he is/will be better than his father?
                          No we can't and no we won't. His dad was one of the best dozen or so guys to ever play the game. Domas is a good player. There is a huge difference.

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                          • Originally posted by pimpis zajoba View Post

                            $168,200,000 for 5y...
                            You forgot incentives. Like, never foul out of the game - 3 mils extra. Cause if Domas fouls out - team is bleeped.
                            12-12-2018, 09:20 PM


                            Myles Turner during Vic's postgame interview: "Tell you what the East is in trouble now boy"

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                            • Originally posted by bball_nomad View Post

                              You forgot incentives. Like, never foul out of the game - 3 mils extra. Cause if Domas fouls out - team is bleeped.
                              $168,200,000 for 5y is next years 5 year max for 1-6 y player...you literally can't get a penny more...

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                              • Originally posted by DeS View Post
                                Actually, Domas also made a record in Lithuanian history.
                                He is the first-ever Lithuanian to get triple-double in NBA.
                                Can we say that he is/will be better than his father?
                                No. Arvydas wasn't just big and skilled. Prior to his injury he was quite the athlete. I think he ruptured his achilles overseas prior to entering the NBA and still played all-star basketball. He was 7'3" and could pass like Magic Johnson. He had this wrap around his body pass that he constantly used effectively. I think Domas has maybe 75% of his passing skill. The only thing Domas has over him right now is his health. Otherwise, even now his dad was better at every aspect of the game. That's just how good that dude was.

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