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    Pacers.com - Dunleavy impresses

    There is also some stuff about the team's defense, but I better not comment, or some of you might think I'm a one trick pony.

    It is interesting though to see Dunleavy fitting in so well, because he wasn't one of the guys we thought would really benefit from the new coach.


    http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/preview_071012.html


    PACERS HOST SONICS SATURDAY
    Dunleavy quietly impressing Pacers


    By Conrad Brunner | Oct. 12, 2007
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    Pacers Preseason Central

    The usual post-practice questions came about the offensive tempo, the defensive intensity, the injury situation, the rotations.
    That Mike Dunleavy had scored a game-high 20 points in less than 22 minutes Wednesday night in a 101-96 preseason victory over New Orleans came as an afterthought. For a quiet player that goes about the game with relentless effort but plays so smoothly as to appear effortless, it was somehow fitting.

    "He had a hell of a (game)," said Coach Jim O'Brien. "That's the way he's practiced. He is absolutely made for our passing game – absolutely made for it. And he's made for it more than anybody. He just knows how to move and he just does a lot of things."

    Though there was some pre-camp speculation Dunleavy might be better suited to a reserve role, O'Brien has given him a strong vote of confidence and intends to pair him with Danny Granger in the starting wing positions. Dunleavy, who has favorably compared O'Brien's offensive system to the one Mike Krzyzewski employed at Duke, responded with a very strong training camp and followed that up with his impressive outing against the Hornets.

    The Pacers continue their preseason schedule against No. 2 NBA Draft pick Kevin Durant and Seattle Saturday in Conseco Fieldhouse at 7 p.m.

    Without Dunleavy's fast start, the Pacers might've found themselves in a big hole against the Hornets. He scored 15 of the team's first 21 points and shot 6-of-8 in the first quarter. The rest of the team totaled 12 points on 3-of-18 shooting. Clearly, Dunleavy's a good fit for O'Brien's more aggressive offensive approach.

    Hearing that Dunleavy compared his system to that of Krzyzewski, O'Brien said it was "music to my ears."

    "I just think this is going to be the perfect type of situation for him," O'Brien said. "I don't think any of his teammates were surprised with the game he had because that's the way he's practiced."



    After a very strong first half against the Hornets, O'Brien would like to see the team sustain its productivity. The Pacers held a 55-35 halftime lead, outscoring the visitors 15-0 on fast-break points and outrebounding them 40-20. The energy subsided in the second half and the tempo slowed. Though the Hornets shot just 38.4 percent, O'Brien was unhappy with the defense.

    "Defensively, we were not very pleased," he said. "We didn't do the necessary things. We did not stop the ball from getting to the basket. They saw that, they heard from the staff about it and we practice it almost at the exclusion of anything else.

    "What we're trying to do is the exact right way for this team to be at its best so we're going to persist."

    O'Brien is convinced the Pacers have the potential to be a solid defensive team but said the key will be their commitment to detail work – fundamentals like keeping their hands up, talking and maintaining the proper defensive stance.

    "I feel very optimistic about the (defensive) potential of this team," he said. "But they are really going to have to be mentally tough in order to get where we need to get it, and they know that.

    "It's details, and doing the details right every time and at an intensity level that good basketball teams play at. I don't think it's hard to sell (details) to this particular group. They're very open-minded and in practices they have done a remarkable job of executing and learning the details."




    NOTEWORTHY: David Harrison will not play in Saturday's game due to a sore right ankle and may be out awhile. O'Brien said he'd rest the young center as long as necessary to allow the ankle to full heal. "I'd rather shut somebody down and get it right than two days on, three days off, two days on, three days off," he said. "We can't do that throughout the year. He's too important too us." … Danny Granger looked in the spirit of Halloween Thursday with a bandage wrapped around the top of his head to hold a patch over an infection in his left eye but said he expects to play against Seattle. … Jermaine O'Neal, who sat out Wednesday's game with swelling in his left knee – the result of a collision with Shawne Williams – is listed as questionable. … Seattle's prized rookie, No. 2 overall draft pick Kevin Durant, scored 12 points in less than 21 minutes in his debut, a 104-98 loss to Sacramento Tuesday night. The Sonics faced the Cavs in Cleveland Friday night.
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    wow. up-tempo style dint work for him when Don Nelson took over, though maybe they are just different uptempo style.

    If mike gets to play like he did in college, confidence and everything, he mite just live up to his potential





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      "passing game" and run-and-gun are not the same.

      Dunn's game might not adapt well to a game of isolations, which was the way Rick liked to coach.

      For that matter, JO played better under Isiah's (yikes) motion/ passing offense as well, so I'm also not worried about the predictable "just wait until JO comes back" post that Peck or Bball is probably starting to type right now...
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        Originally posted by Jay View Post
        so I'm also not worried about the predictable "just wait until JO comes back" post that Peck or Bball is probably starting to type right now...
        Thanks for that I had a good laugh envisioning Peck in conspiracy-like pose for a few seconds.



        Anyway, let's hope this is the start of a sort of rebirth for Dun Dun. That's one of the main things we need to even THINK about the play-offs this year IMO.
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          Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
          NOTEWORTHY: David Harrison will not play in Saturday's game due to a sore right ankle and may be out awhile. O'Brien said he'd rest the young center as long as necessary to allow the ankle to full heal. "I'd rather shut somebody down and get it right than two days on, three days off, two days on, three days off," he said. "We can't do that throughout the year. He's too important too us."
          ......



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            Maybe in the sence that he is the only REAL (big) center we have? I dunno .
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              Originally posted by Unclebuck, quoting Conrad Brunner
              For a quiet player that goes about the game with relentless effort but plays so smoothly as to appear effortless,
              Who does that sound like, to you?


              (Hint: Somebody who used to wear #9)
              Last edited by Putnam; 10-12-2007, 01:50 PM.
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                I could be wrong, but I took that as a subtle nod of support to a player by his coach and not a face-value comment that would imply he's a star or starter-quality player for us.

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                  I take it to mean that Harrison will get more minutes this year as a backup than many of us expected. But for now, he's out and will remain out until he is fully healed. I'm perfectly fine with both decisions as long as his minutes are earned and not given.

                  I've believed for quite some time that a Granger/JO/Harrison front line could do some damage. Harrison was never taught to control his temper (or him arms on D) in the previous regime. Maybe this coach will get through to him.
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                    Originally posted by Mal View Post
                    I could be wrong, but I took that as a subtle nod of support to a player by his coach and not a face-value comment that would imply he's a star or starter-quality player for us.
                    I'm Nancy Negative I guess, but I took it as standard coach-speak. Every NBA coach is saying similar things about every guy on their roster right now. None of them are mentioned as "eh, we could do fine without them".

                    Disagree all you want, but try to at least find me evidence to back it, as in any coach who ever said a player wasn't important.

                    It's possible that for JOB the honeymoon with David isn't over yet, though Melli mentioned in his post-game review that JOB had to shoot a glare at David when he started to lose it on a ref in a freaking preseason game where he played less than 10 minutes.

                    See David isn't Jackson or Ron, guys that you never know when they'll lose it. You know when David will lose it...20 seconds after the first foul is called typically.

                    It's funny cause it's true. It shouldn't be but I guess David is determined to keep living the dream...of staring in an Ang Lee sequel, one without swords or period costumes that is.



                    Back on track with Dun. If he has recovered his long missing 3 he'll be MUCH more effective. Dun with a 3 + Quis = big turnaround, even if Rick was still here. I won't deny that losing Quis hurt last season, mostly because no one else was left that could dribble drive for consistant points. And honestly once Rick shifted Dun away from spot up 3s he became a much better contributor.


                    I mentioned the other day but it's worth noting repeatedly. 82Games had Dun as part of the best +/- five the team had. When I doubted it and checked into it I found that the starters weren't really the issue, it was the BENCH. So Dun, 3 or no 3, should be part of the good stuff.

                    Where the real concerns probably lie is when Diener, Rush, Shawne, Ike, Owens, Graham...oh, and maybe David...hit the floor. Gotta have a bench that can hold it's own. Even an improved Mike won't solve that.

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                      Re: Pacers.com - Dunleavy impresses

                      Originally posted by Mal View Post
                      I could be wrong, but I took that as a subtle nod of support to a player by his coach and not a face-value comment that would imply he's a star or starter-quality player for us.
                      yeah i thought that too which is why it was surprising: every other time obrien has been quoted about harrison its always very measured and vague.

                      like this one from Pacers.com

                      Originally posted by Jimmy Jim Jim
                      "I think it's totally up to David Harrison," said O'Brien. "It is for all of our players. I've been asked that question by fans constantly, as to what my plans are for David Harrison, and my plans are to put on the court the people that deserve to be on the court. If he deserves to be on the court, he'll be on the court."
                      suddenly david is now "too important to the team." he could have just said something about the team's health in general but he specifically said something about harrison and being "too important." i was just shocked by the sudden voice of support for hulk. and given his 1 foul, 3 rbd, 3 ast performance on Wednesday, it does make me curious as to whether he turned some type of maturity-corner this preseason.

                      EDIT: i should also note that while i'm curious i remain skeptical.
                      Last edited by avoidingtheclowns; 10-12-2007, 02:40 PM.
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                        Originally posted by Putnam View Post
                        Who does that sound like, to you?


                        (Hint: Somebody who used to wear #9)
                        About a month after Dunleavy was acquired I compared those two players - only on the offensive end. Although Mike is a better scorer. But both have a great feel for the game and both are winning players. Yes I said it, Mike Dunleavy is a winning player - and what I mean by that is he a lot of little things that help a team win

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                          Re: Pacers.com - Dunleavy impresses

                          Originally posted by What Conrad wrote
                          Though there was some pre-camp speculation Dunleavy might be better suited to a reserve role,
                          Translation:

                          Originally posted by What Conrad meant
                          Even though I was propping up the Rush signing by arguing he'd take Dunleavy's starting spot,
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                            Kegboy for the win.


                            I'm not even dismissive of Rush's chances either. I like the signing. It was financially responsible and made sense for where this team is at right now.

                            I'm not bothered by the summer moves or where the roster is at now, I'm bothered by what they SAY the summer moves were and where they say the roster is at now. No more smoke up my bum. I'm still a fan in spite of the current stormy weather so save the "no, it's sunny out" for the fair weather fans who don't even know the preseason started yet.

                            Mike should be okay, but he's not a true SG by any stretch, so stop pretending he is. If they go double SF and make it work, great. If they just make the best with what they've got, great. I mean honestly isn't Mike's pedigree, draft status and apparent ability still higher than Rush's anyway, regardless of going to Europe? Mike is supposed to be better than him, certainly his accountant must think so.
                            Last edited by Naptown_Seth; 10-12-2007, 03:03 PM.

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                              Rush DID NOT impress me in game one.

                              He's got about 90 more chances this season alone, so I'm not fretting it.
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