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  • #76
    Originally posted by Nuntius View Post

    I did say the part you quoted and I stand by it. I don't get why anyone would care about the IMCU specials. I definitely consider it to be wholly irrelevant to the product on the court.

    Domas is definitely a great player. I've been one of his biggest supporters on this site since day 1. He is the reason why I was always a fan of the PG trade and I wanted him to start for us ever since his 6th game with the team (when he went perfect against SAS). So, you don't need to convert me on him. I'm aware of how great he is and how much he helps the team. He is probably our most important offensive player and that says something when you take into account the amount of offensive talent that this team has.

    When I listen to our tv crew, they talk about both players a lot. Domas gets a ton of praise from them. According to Quinn, there is no player in the league who can guard Domas and he repeats the "he can't guard Domas" line around 4-5 times per game. And he is right. Most players can't guard Domas.

    When I listen to opposing tv crews, they talk about both players as well. Just like any tv crew, they will talk about their opponents when the situation arises. I simply don't see this disparity that you're talking about in this thread.

    Both players are talked about during the games. Domas is usually talked about more (by both our own and by opposing tv crews) which makes sense since he's usually more involved offensively. Myles is primarily talked about for his defense.
    I just wanted to write a support message for Nuntius. From Domas career start as a Pacer - he always supported him and his fans Thanks Nuntius But Nuntius also likes Myles and because of that often Nuntius finds himself in a crossfire.
    As for me (i'm Domas fan since he played in Europe, before NCAA) - i don't care how much attention Domas receives from media. Too much already. He needs to become better. In two years he will be an all-star player, but right now he has a lot of things to improve. 20/15/5 should be his lower bound. I expect that when he hits 25.
    I'm really sorry because of my english (which is my 3-4 language) and I really appreciate Your patience. I hope this board will make me better

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    • #77
      I hear Quinn and Chris compliment Domas on the broadcasts a lot, from what I can recall. They just don't have to go quite as out of their way as they do with Myles because the positive play is more consistent and obvious, almost as though it were easier to take for granted.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Jon Theodore View Post

        I could care less about the IMCU commercials,
        what im referencing is what Able talked about in his post. Just the over reactions from Quinn and the entire post
        game last night being about Myles and his 17 points. Every single bucket he made being replayed throughout the course of the game, etc.

        You would have thought he had 40 pts
        and has been leading this team the entire way all year from
        the praise they were giving him. It’s kind of homerish and you don’t typically get that with our broadcasts.

        I’m not mad about it and am not a hater....I just find it odd.

        Not trying to beat a dead horse but wanted to clarify my position, I totally don’t care about the IMCU commercials and who is in them.

        The IMCU commercials are just another part of the full court press (pardon the pun) to stress Myles’ accomplishments as a Pacer. Just part of the marketing effort. As someone here said (not me) the broadcast shoves Myles down our throats. I would put that a little more gently that they go overboard featuring him and that went on all night before, during and after the game. It just seems really extreme. Malcolm Brogdon has done more for the Pacers this year than Myles and might get 10% of the accolades. More than anything it’s really odd as some have said here but it could be that they are shopping him. It is either that or they need to stroke his psyche maybe to avoid a Hibbert II implosion.

        Edit: Right after posting this I hit Facebook and sure enough there is an advertisement for the Toronto game on Monday with Myles wearing a Hickory jersey appearing to be making a war cry. I’m starting to forget the rest of the starting unit. i bet casual Pacer fans don’t even know Malcolm and they probably still think Sabonis is a backup.
        Last edited by BlueNGold; 12-21-2019, 03:27 PM.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Jon Theodore View Post

          I could care less about the IMCU commercials,
          what im referencing is what Able talked about in his post. Just the over reactions from Quinn and the entire post
          game last night being about Myles and his 17 points. Every single bucket he made being replayed throughout the course of the game, etc.

          You would have thought he had 40 pts
          and has been leading this team the entire way all year from
          the praise they were giving him. It’s kind of homerish and you don’t typically get that with our broadcasts.

          I’m not mad about it and am not a hater....I just find it odd.

          Not trying to beat a dead horse but wanted to clarify my position, I totally don’t care about the IMCU commercials and who is in them.


          This whole discussion started because someone was complaining about those commercials. If you don't care about the IMCU commercials then you definitely aren't the subject of my initial posts.
          Originally posted by IrishPacer
          Empty vessels make the most noise.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by able View Post

            Get as mad as you want, it won't change my opinion nor will I let it silence me.

            whiners, haters etc, I'm sure i can find a post that said Myles bashers are stupid.
            when lots of people "BASH" Myles, then who are you to decide that it is uncalled for ?
            and inter-poster respect has nothing to do with Myles but a lot with remarks like yours that their posts are "uncalled for" or me posting an opinion makes you mad, I don't give a toss whether you get "mad" at me, I still and for 15 years now pay all the bills for this site and you are going to tell me I am not allowed an opinion?

            madness
            Kid Minneapolis didn't say that you aren't allowed an opinion. He simply stated his own opinion. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, including Kid Minneapolis. Sadly, Kid Minneapolis' opinion will be silenced from now on since he decided to leave the forum just like a lot of other posters who happened to disagree with the group of posters that Kid Minneapolis disagreed with.
            Originally posted by IrishPacer
            Empty vessels make the most noise.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by able View Post

              Whether people are talking about the person or the player, usually that's quite clear form the posts, assumptions? oh well we all know what they mean and do.
              Nonetheless this has nothing to do with the IMCU commercial, or George Hill (who as an Indiana native is probably the most hated ex-player in the state) but it has to do with Quinn's exaltations on every step Turner takes. and his almost complete disregard of Domas in comparison.
              This has to do with Turrner being shoved down our throats at least by the television crew, me I am just sad i have to chose between listening or watching and can not find an online feed of the radio feed anymore ( I used to sync them up and mute the tv).

              And most of what you describe as haters and stupid posters are respected members of this board for many a year, many much longer than you.
              Your opinion is just that, an opinion, like all the others, respect theirs just a much as you respect your own please.

              Fact is that without Domas this team could well only have half the wins they have now and observations by some that the complete team goes to sha,bles whenever he leaves are very correct, to even suggest his numbers are because he plays with the "bench" are plain infantile, a better way to read would be that Domas makes the players around him so much better whenever he is in, that he elevates the bench to a squad that could well challenge the starters.

              Please take discussions with proper arguments and people's opinions for what they are and respect them.
              Nuntius didn't call anyone a hater or stupid, in fact, he didn't really attack anyone personally at all in his post. Yet you(a mod and the owner of this site) try to derail the topic and go after Nuntius for no reason at all.

              I mean, look at how dead this site is compared to what it used to be. I've never seen a forum tank so hard, its actually quite impressive. I can say with confidence that Nuntius is not the reason this forum is dead now, I know this as I keep in contact with a good 20-25 people that used to post here a lot. I'm sure none of us are "respected members" to you anyway, so you don't care, but if you think Nuntius is this boards biggest problem, then you are sadly mistaken.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
                Welp, that's it for me, y'all. Line has been crossed, board admin sides with the trolls. It's been a good 15 year run. Kid Minneapolis signing off.
                Oh wow, I didn't even see this when I made my post. Another one bites the dust I guess, but its okay, I assume he wasn't a "respected member" either.

                Keep it up Able, you're doing a bang up job!

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                • #83
                  In the last few months I have put the screeching & monotonous minority on ignore but it honestly doesn't help much. You see a high % of the posts from people quoting the garbage in order to address it anyway and in the end it still poisons the entire conversation. Game threads have been pointless for a long time and now it significantly effects the post game threads too.

                  Left the board for a long time and then came back during the PG uptick to what was overall pretty a good discussion and then the negative trend started again (and then escalated) and is very much traceable to the return of one poster. The balance is gone and while I didn't appreciate KM as much as many he was balanced and truly did contribute to the overall health of the board.
                  Last edited by Downtown Bang!; 12-22-2019, 07:52 AM.

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                  • #84
                    KM was fine. But that was a weak sauce reason to leave the board.
                    "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by McKeyFan View Post
                      KM was fine. But that was a weak sauce reason to leave the board.
                      I doubt that was the only reason. Just that proverbial straw.
                      {o,o}
                      |)__)
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Dr. Awesome View Post

                        Nuntius didn't call anyone a hater or stupid, in fact, he didn't really attack anyone personally at all in his post. Yet you(a mod and the owner of this site) try to derail the topic and go after Nuntius for no reason at all.

                        I mean, look at how dead this site is compared to what it used to be. I've never seen a forum tank so hard, its actually quite impressive. I can say with confidence that Nuntius is not the reason this forum is dead now, I know this as I keep in contact with a good 20-25 people that used to post here a lot. I'm sure none of us are "respected members" to you anyway, so you don't care, but if you think Nuntius is this boards biggest problem, then you are sadly mistaken.
                        meh, i think it's just that people dont really do forums anymore...it's the same or worse with other message boards im on

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by dal9 View Post

                          meh, i think it's just that people dont really do forums anymore...it's the same or worse with other message boards im on
                          That isn't the reason they left this site. As I said, I keep in touch with them.

                          And it doesn't appear that is the reason KM is leaving either.
                          Last edited by Dr. Awesome; 12-22-2019, 02:07 AM.

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                          • #88
                            Posters who get "mad" because I have an opinion are stifling my opinion, which in turn makes me post less and I already post very little if anything at all.

                            Now consider that I hardly post on FORUM I host/dns/maintain, and you still maintain I am at fault, I guess we think extremely different.

                            If that (ME giving MY opinion) is a reason to leave, so be it, traffic is not something that brings me money like most forums, it costs.
                            If in exchange for this cost i have to shutup I may a well turn the lights out.
                            So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

                            If you've done 6 impossible things today?
                            Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by able View Post
                              Posters who get "mad" because I have an opinion are stifling my opinion, which in turn makes me post less and I already post very little if anything at all.

                              Now consider that I hardly post on FORUM I host/dns/maintain, and you still maintain I am at fault, I guess we think extremely different.

                              If that (ME giving MY opinion) is a reason to leave, so be it, traffic is not something that brings me money like most forums, it costs.
                              If in exchange for this cost i have to shutup I may a well turn the lights out.
                              To be clear, you aren't the main reason many of us don't post here anymore, but the way in which things are run has definitely made this a place that a lot of us didn't find enjoyable anymore.

                              You are obviously free to have your opinion and post your opinion, never claimed otherwise, but when you, the host of this site and a moderator is derailing a subject by putting words in someones mouth(saying Nuntius was calling people "haters" or "stupid") when he never came close to saying those things in that post(maybe he has before? I don't come here often enough to know, but knowing Nuntius like I do, I'd feel safe betting a lot of money that he has never once called anyone stupid here) is a bad look for me. You're free to not like someone, but I don't see how making things up helps anything at all for forum dialogue. Maybe thats just me?

                              I mean, I've been here long enough to know thats an empty threat. I've seen it plenty of times before from you and we both know nothing is going to come from it, and it shouldn't. I don't come here often enough for my opinion to matter either way.

                              I'd simply suggest to take a look at this forum now, and compare it to where it was a few years back. Clearly its not the same, maybe you view that as for the better? Certainly possible. But I'd bet you recognize that a LOT of posters who used to frequent here often no longer come around. I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about good posters who brought a lot of insight and value to good discussion on this board. Its not just one thing, it was quite a few things that drove them away, but nonetheless they are gone. Unfortunately KM just seems to be the latest victim of it.

                              If you are fine with this place dying, so be it. But I think this place could still be salvageable if you wanted it to. The Pacers have a rather small fan base all things considered and Pacers fans need a good place to talk basketball. This place used to be that for a lot of us, and while this is never a place I'd really feel welcomed again, I'm sure it could for some of the other posters who have left and for new members who join for the first time. Staying the current course clearly isn't working though, but this is your ship and you can captain it how you so choose.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by able View Post

                                Whether people are talking about the person or the player, usually that's quite clear form the posts, assumptions? oh well we all know what they mean and do.
                                Nonetheless this has nothing to do with the IMCU commercial, or George Hill (who as an Indiana native is probably the most hated ex-player in the state) but it has to do with Quinn's exaltations on every step Turner takes. and his almost complete disregard of Domas in comparison.
                                This has to do with Turrner being shoved down our throats at least by the television crew, me I am just sad i have to chose between listening or watching and can not find an online feed of the radio feed anymore ( I used to sync them up and mute the tv).

                                And most of what you describe as haters and stupid posters are respected members of this board for many a year, many much longer than you.
                                Your opinion is just that, an opinion, like all the others, respect theirs just a much as you respect your own please.

                                Fact is that without Domas this team could well only have half the wins they have now and observations by some that the complete team goes to sha,bles whenever he leaves are very correct, to even suggest his numbers are because he plays with the "bench" are plain infantile, a better way to read would be that Domas makes the players around him so much better whenever he is in, that he elevates the bench to a squad that could well challenge the starters.

                                Please take discussions with proper arguments and people's opinions for what they are and respect them.

                                This is one of the greatest posts in last years not directly related with game of basketball. I have been an every day reader of this forum for the last 3 years and this able's post is the reason I have decided to finally register, simply to be able to express support for the poster.

                                I believe that everyone with open eyes and critical thinking understands why Myles gets so many praises through all communication channels at the moment and that of course is not his basketball-play related thing and is not fairly earned. From one side I understand why this is happening (and at the same time whose fault it is), from another I am bit concerned how that might impact team's chemistry in a longer run and I am really concerned that this might create a precedent for others to (mis)behave in the future ...

                                And to those who say that this able's post offends some other users - try to read their messages lately. I can name at least 4 users here who try to abuse Domas every time they see a criticism towards Myles from other users. That is so funny when you add into the account what unbelievable impact to the team Sabonis creates in general. By the way, I am not adding Nuntius into this category of course, even though it feels that he is partial for Myles, but in general he is a great poster and supporter of the team who usually tries to advocate every player when he is worth that and even when not ... The main difference this time to my thinking was an attitude not to express personal opinion about events on the court what is usually highly subjective, but to make judgments on other users personal opinion and feelings towards some things out of the court, calling their opinion as a whining and their feelings as irrelevant and petty. In my eyes that is the reason which caused others reaction, including mine while I was reading. It was a good step up by able and on perfect time.
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