Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

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  • BoomBaby33
    Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 803

    Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

    Yet another Pacer incident with the law. I didn't read the whole thread on Shawne's weed arrest, but I don't need to. Apologize if some of my points were covered already.

    JO needs to go NOW! The so-called leader of the team has let player after player after player after player get into trouble, without taking matters into his own hands. He and his horrible leadership skills were just basically imported from the Portland Jailblazers. Ever since his statements about Artest to the media (but not privately to Ron or TPTB like they should have been), I have lost all confidence in him. We are now the laughingstock of the NBA.

    Tins and his layed back, I dont give a crap attitude have got to go too.

    These 2 guys are a complete cancer to the rest of the team, ala Jack. Until they are gone, we will continue to be disappointed fans, and ultimatley quit going to the games, and THEN they will be called the Las Vegas Pacers, or the Oklahoma City Pacers. How does that sound? It sucks, but its how I feel about it now. We need players with heart, and these 2 guys dont have enough heart for 1 person.

    We need to completely start over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Shawne is truely a good kid, and he gets on a team with 2 losers like JO and Tins. When I say kid, I mean that. I GUARANTEE that he would not have been in the situation if he hadn't seen Tins, Jack, Snap, Quis, and the rest of the boys get into trouble and then continue to play and get away with it.

    The new lame PR campaign better come to fruition very harshly, and very quickly, or the Pacers are not even going to average 10,000 fans per game in the building that Reggie built. And JO is crumbling down as we speak.

    As you can tell, im completely fed up with this crap.

    Get what we can from LA now, PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSE!
  • aero
    Never Give Up
    • Jun 2006
    • 2341

    #2
    Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

    im sorry but you cant blame this on Jermaine. Its not his duty to babysit the players during the off season or at all for that matter. They are all grown adults and are responsible for their own actions both on and off the court, sure Jermaine can mentor them to an extent but come on now....

    completely start over ? a bit dramatic do you think..id go into more detail on all this stuff but i work crazy hours..im off to bed.
    Last edited by aero; 09-13-2007, 01:29 PM.
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    • btowncolt
      Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 4123

      #3
      Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

      Not a JO fan, but I have no idea how he can be remotely blamed for all the extracurriculars that have been going on.

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      • Isaac
        Member
        • Apr 2005
        • 3233

        #4
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        Tinsley's terrible attitude? Is that the same attitude that had him calling JOB the minute he got hired asking to meet with him? Finally he's free from Rick Carlisle, and he's extremely enthusiastic to play with a new coach that will let him play more his style. Sorry, I don't want to throw him away for a half eaten bag of chips when we can give him a shot in a better system. It's not like we're going to be contenders this year anyways.

        To try and blame Shawne Williams arrest on Jamaal and Jermaine is one of the most irresponsible comments I've ever read. I guarantee you Shawne Williams drove around and smoked weed with those same exact guys before he came to Indy, and would have done it no matter where he went.

        I don't even know where you get the idea that Jermaine caused this in any way. He hasn't been in any legal trouble outside the brawl with this team, he's been a standup citizen that does a lot of work with the community. All the battling through injuries that he's done for this franchise and hard work he's put in every offseason, and fans think he's a cancer. You want to move the best player we've ever had for a question mark in both talent and work ethic in Andrew Bynum?

        You need to re-evaluate what's important to you in the team you follow.

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        • Alpolloloco
          Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 775

          #5
          Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

          I agree with the OP that it's probably better that JO & Tinsley are gone and we go in rebuilding mode. But I don't think you can blame them for Shawne's behavior, ok maybe just a little bit then.
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          • Naptown_Seth
            NaptownSeth is all feel
            • Jul 2006
            • 12714

            #6
            Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

            WTF!?!?!

            Last edited by Naptown_Seth; 09-14-2007, 03:33 AM.

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            • JayRedd
              It Might Be a Soft J
              • May 2006
              • 12150

              #7
              Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

              You're right...JO should not be handing out stolen firearms and blunts during the offseason.

              I swear some of yall prolly think he shot Kennedy.

              Shawne is truely a good kid
              What is this based on? Did you used to babysit him or something?
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              • Speed
                Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 9266

                #8
                Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

                Suspending logic, giving a pass, and chaulking it up to frustrating.
                Last edited by Speed; 09-13-2007, 10:24 PM.

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                • Anthem
                  White and Nerdy
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 24482

                  #9
                  Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

                  Originally posted by BoomBaby33
                  Shawne is truely a good kid, and he gets on a team with 2 losers like JO and Tins.
                  How bizarre. You give Shawne a complete pass, but blame his poor decisions on Jermaine? The guy on the team that doesn't do any of these things?

                  You're a weird dude.
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                  • Shade
                    Administrator
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 51892

                    #10
                    Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

                    Bball? Is that you?

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                    • jcouts
                      Member
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 434

                      #11
                      Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

                      Did anyone have any run ins with the law when Reggie was the leader? I can't seem to recall them.
                      Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team. -- Scottie Pippen

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                      • SparkyPacer
                        Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 112

                        #12
                        Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

                        Reggie had some kooky antics with Kramer at a strip club....

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                        • Jay@Section12
                          Administrator/ The Real Jay
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 17727

                          #13
                          Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

                          Originally posted by JayRedd
                          You're right...JO should not be handing out stolen firearms and blunts during the offseason.

                          I swear some of yall prolly think he shot Kennedy.



                          What is this based on? Did you used to babysit him or something?
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                          • Unclebuck
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                            • Jan 2004
                            • 36200

                            #14
                            Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

                            Just glad I'm not a Portland fan

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                            • DisplacedKnick
                              Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 9304

                              #15
                              Re: Im Completely Frustrated and PO'd. Anybody Else?

                              Don't worry. Take it from someone who knows - eventually you'll pass from PO'd to a state of dejected resignation.

                              Happened for me about 18 months ago - when Isiah traded expiring contracts for Jalen Rose and Steve Francis, instead of getting all PO'd about it, like I did when he traded for Mo Taylor or signed Jerome James, it was more of a "Here we go again" roll-eyes response.

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