07-08 starting lineup

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  • vali_31
    Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 24

    07-08 starting lineup

    Assuming that the team enters the season in its current shape, how do you think the starting lineup should look like and how do you think it would work. As in what situations we might see in the games and what kind of ball would that group play...

    Mine is...

    Pg Jamaal Tinsley
    Sg Kareem Rush
    Sf Danny Granger
    Pf Jermaine Oneal
    C Troy Murphy
  • indyman37
    By Your Powers Combined
    • Jul 2006
    • 1736

    #2
    Re: 07-08 starting lineup

    I really doubt that JOB starts Rush. He'll probably be between the 6th and 8th person off the bench. It will be some order of Quis/Dun/Rush off the bench, I just don't know what. It'll depend on the opposing team most likely.
    I think KP is a Captain Planet fan. He believes that the collective will of five decent starters can outweigh the power of top-level talent. Too bad Herb won't cut the check for their Planeteer rings.

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    • CableKC
      Member
      • Mar 2005
      • 36687

      #3
      Re: 07-08 starting lineup

      My starting lineup:

      PG - Tinsley
      SG - Marquis
      SF - Granger
      PF - JONeal
      C - Murphy

      6th Man - Dunleavy

      After Dunleavy, whoever comes in is dependant on whether we need to rotate a Guard or Forward/Big Man:

      1st Guard off the bench - Kareem then Deiner
      1st Forward/Big Man off the bench - Ike, Shawne then Foster
      Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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      • Young
        Senior Member
        • May 2004
        • 4059

        #4
        Re: 07-08 starting lineup

        PG: Tinsley
        SG: Rush
        SF: Granger
        PF: O'Neal
        C: Murphy
        6th Man: Dunleavy

        Here is my thing, we signed two very good shooters in Rush and Diener which we do need. But if we don't play em then why sign them? We need Rush's shooting in the starting lineup because without him all we have is Murphy as far as shooters go and this is assuming we start him and not Foster.

        Dunleavy may or may not do well as the 6th man IDK for sure. I'd try him there though. Hopefully he would excel there.

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        • rexnom
          Headband and Rec Specs
          • Dec 2005
          • 8726

          #5
          Re: 07-08 starting lineup

          I am very curious to see how MDJ and Granger's shots have developed. I would definitely not be opposed to starting Rush. It's just a disaster not to have a shooter out there in O'Brien system.

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          • pacers_1
            Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 21

            #6
            Re: 07-08 starting lineup

            pg tinsley
            sg dunleavey
            sf granger
            pf o'neal
            c foster

            i think foster is better suited for the pacers now that they are going to run

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            • Hicks
              Member
              • Jun 2004
              • 53117

              #7
              Re: 07-08 starting lineup

              It probably would be better to start Rush instead of Mike, but then again if Mike has improved his 3 point shot, then you probably need to start him, even out of position.

              Tinsley/Diener/Daniels
              Dunleavy/Daniels/Rush
              Granger/Williams/Dunleavy/Daniels
              Murphy/Williams/Foster
              O'Neal/Diogu/Foster

              Top 8:
              O'Neal
              Granger
              Tinsley
              Dunleavy
              Murphy
              Daniels
              Diener
              Rush

              I have no idea how our two new guys will get time AND find room for Daniels, Williams, Diogu, and Foster.

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              • Kamiyohk
                Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 226

                #8
                Re: 07-08 starting lineup

                Pg Marquis Daniels
                Sg Kareem Rush
                Sf Danny Granger
                Pf Ike Diogu
                C Jermaine O'neal

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                • wintermute
                  Artificial Intelligence
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7008

                  #9
                  Re: 07-08 starting lineup

                  i took it a bit further and worked out rotation and minutes as well. imo:

                  PG - tinsley (30min) / daniels (10 min) / diener (<10 min) / owens (0 min)
                  SG - dunleavy (20 min) / daniels (20 min) / rush (<10 min)
                  SF - granger (35 min) / dunleavy (10 min) / graham (<5 min)
                  PF - murphy (30 min) / williams (15 min) / foster (<5 min)
                  C - o'neal (35 min) / diogu (10 min) / harrison (<5 min)

                  for reference, the minutes distribution last season was:

                  o'neal 35.6 mpg in 69 games
                  dunleavy 35.6 mpg in 43 games
                  granger 34.0 mpg in 82 games
                  tinsley 31.2 mpg in 72 games
                  murphy 28.2 mpg in 42 games
                  foster 23.2 mpg in 75 games
                  daniels 17.8 mpg in 45 games
                  diogu 12.8 mpg in 42 games
                  williams 12.1 mpg in 46 games
                  harrison 7.9 mpg in 24 games

                  the actual mpg's have some overlap due to injuries, and the trade messes things up as well. still, it's a useful baseline.

                  the only major minutes guy not returning (probably) is armstrong's 15.7 mpg in 81 games, which in my projection is mostly going to daniels in his dual backup sg/pg role. foster's 23 mpg dwindles to almost nothing in my projection because i allocated his minutes to ike and shawne instead. obviously i don't think foster is going to fit into obie's scheme...

                  i actually think that both rush and diener will have trouble getting minutes if everyone is healthy - but with the injury history of daniels and tinsley, odds are good that both rush and diener will get their chances.

                  btw, the roster as is still makes me think "trade". too many of our better players are forwards.

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                  • Peck
                    Administrator
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 19942

                    #10
                    Re: 07-08 starting lineup

                    If your asking who we think will start I will say this.

                    Tinsley
                    Dunleavy
                    Granger
                    O'Neal
                    Murphy

                    If your asking me who I would want to start?

                    Diener
                    Dunleavy
                    Granger
                    Williams
                    Diogu


                    Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                    • Trader Joe
                      DIET COKE!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 46863

                      #11
                      Re: 07-08 starting lineup

                      Originally posted by Peck
                      If your asking who we think will start I will say this.

                      Tinsley
                      Dunleavy
                      Granger
                      O'Neal
                      Murphy

                      If your asking me who I would want to start?

                      Diener
                      Dunleavy
                      Granger
                      Williams
                      Diogu
                      If JO is on the team you would honestly start Williams and Diogu over him?


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                      • Peck
                        Administrator
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 19942

                        #12
                        Re: 07-08 starting lineup

                        Originally posted by indy0731
                        If JO is on the team you would honestly start Williams and Diogu over him?
                        Yes


                        Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                        • dewman_32
                          Rejuvinated
                          • May 2005
                          • 160

                          #13
                          Re: 07-08 starting lineup

                          I really don't see how a healthy Jeff Foster isn't in the starting lineup. O'Brien has already stated an emphasis on rebounding, so why wouldn't our best rebounder be in the starting 5?

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                          • BlueNGold
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 32249

                            #14
                            Re: 07-08 starting lineup

                            Starting lineups often are driven by who gets paid the most IMO. Like it or not, whether JOb or RC is coaching, this is who takes the floor first:

                            Tinsley
                            Quis or MDJ (I suspect Quis)
                            Granger
                            JO
                            Murphy

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                            • owl
                              Member
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 17116

                              #15
                              Re: 07-08 starting lineup

                              Center---Murphy/Foster
                              Power Forward-Oneal/Diogu/Shawne
                              Small Forward--Granger/Shawne/Dunleavy
                              Shooting Guard--Dunleavy/Rush/Marquis
                              Point Guard--Tinsley/Diener/Marquis

                              It seems that Marquis is the odd man out as he is the weakest long range
                              shooter. But maybe his slashing ability will really be useful if eveyone else is rotating around to get an open three which then allows him to drive and finish
                              around the basket. He the best on the Pacers at doing that.
                              Last edited by owl; 07-24-2007, 07:38 AM. Reason: change of heart
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