Antoine Walker and O'B

[Dr. Goldfoot]

Re: Antoine Walker and O'B

Average players on good teams will always be better than average players on bad teams. Walker would step right into the rotation here. Dun and Murphy wouldn't in Miami. On top of that, he'd be off the books in two seasons while those guys will still be collecting all-star paychecks.

[FlavaDave]

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Oh, by the way:

My plan would include playing Walker about as much as the Suns played Jalen Rose.

All I want is the contract.

[FlavaDave]

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During the '04-'05 playoffs he was a sole reason why IND won that series.

My friends wore ironic Walker jerseys while we chanted "An-toine Wal-ker!" after every miss. You are very right.

[Since86]

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My friends wore ironic Walker jerseys while we chanted "An-toine Wal-ker!" after every miss. You are very right.

I got a good chuckle out of the debate with Kegboy and I think UB in the thread about Tins and if he was the reason IND won that series.

I thought then and still do think that he is the first and foremost reason. He was horrible that whole series, and to make it worse he shot the ball 15-20 times a game. I thought PP was going to kill him at times.

[Shade]

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I called this rumor a few days ago.

As for Fatoine...let's just say that, as much as I disliked Jack, I'd rather have 15 Jacks than one single Fatoine Walker. I absolutely loathe the guy.

[CableKC]

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I called this rumor a few days ago.

As for Fatoine...let's just say that, as much as I disliked Jack, I'd rather have 15 Jacks than one single Fatoine Walker. I absolutely loathe the guy.

Except for the 15 SJax for 1 Antoine Walker....that's just to scary to contemplate, I agree....NO to Antoine Walker!!!!!!

I don't like the contract that Dunleavy received....but I would live with Dunleavy's contract and Dunleavy "the player" over taking on Antoine Walker. I always thought of him as an "unofficial" Pacer that played for the other team. He would always do something stupid...or make some mistake that would give the Pacers a win in some way.

Its hard to compare stats...whether it is comparing a bad player on a bad team...or a bad player on a good team.....simply because both players played different minutes on their respective teams over the last 2 years.

I can only add my opinion that Antoine Walker isn't the same player that he was when he was considered an All-Star. If the only reason is that Walker would be taken over Dunleavy is because of salary considerations....then I would rather keep Dunleavy. At least with a player like Dunleavy...under a defensive minded coach like JO'B and Harter....I can see some room for improvement..no matter how small that is, simply cuz he seems somewhat coachable.....but with Antoine Walker....I simply can't see it. The guy has been around the league to long to learn anything new.

[SoupIsGood]

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Trading Murphy for Walker would probably make sense. I wouldn't trade Dun for him.

Let's get AW and his 4-pointe.... I mean championship experience in here.

[CableKC]

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Trading Murphy for Walker would probably make sense. I wouldn't trade Dun for him.

Let's get AW and his 4-pointe.... I mean championship experience in here.

From a Pacers POV....yes...I would prefer a Murphy for Antoine Walker trade...but from the Heat POV...I have no idea why they would want any part of that deal.

[SoupIsGood]

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From a Pacers POV....yes...I would prefer a Murphy for Antoine Walker trade...but from the Heat POV...I have no idea why they would want any part of that deal.

Because of Murphy's fiendish good looks?

[Anthem]

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Oh, by the way:

My plan would include playing Walker about as much as the Suns played Jalen Rose.

All I want is the contract.

Zactly.

It's not like I want to see Murphy on the floor for us, either. I'd be thrilled with trading for Walker, even if we bought him out.

We wouldn't, though. Bird, Walsh, and Obie have all been high on Walker in the past.

[NapTonius Monk]

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I don't think Walker would help this team? He takes more bad shots than anyone I've ever seen. How much easier could it have gotten for him than to feed off of the post presence of Shaq? All he would do here is hinder the growth of younger players.

[CableKC]

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Because of Murphy's fiendish good looks?

Murphy and his continually broken nose has that "Owen Wilson" look to him that men like Riley cannot resist.

[CableKC]

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Zactly.

It's not like I want to see Murphy on the floor for us, either. I'd be thrilled with trading for Walker, even if we bought him out.

We wouldn't, though. Bird, Walsh, and Obie have all been high on Walker in the past.

That settles it then......I have a bad feeling that Antoine is coming htere then.....we all know how Bird/DW is when it comes to players that they have been "high on" in the past.

I have a question about his contract. When I look at his contract in HoopHype...it shows that he has a team option for 10 mil in the 2009-2010 season...and then shows that he is owed another 10 mil in the 2010-2011 season.

If the team that owns his contract in the 2009-2010 season doesn't pick up his team option in that year...does it mean that he comes off the books then?

or

Does it mean that he is still ( in some way ) owed his salary in the 2010-2011 season?

I'm lost on how these particular team/player options work.

[Anthem]

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If the team takes the team option, they stop paying him after that.

[CableKC]

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I don't think Walker would help this team? He takes more bad shots than anyone I've ever seen. How much easier could it have gotten for him than to feed off of the post presence of Shaq? All he would do here is hinder the growth of younger players.

Good point.....but given what we have read on Bird and JO'Bs vision of this team....developing players isn't a priority.

I would much rather keep Dunleavy and even Murphy IF it meant that TPTB are given little to no choice but to play the exisiting young players instead of moving in a player like Antoine Walker.