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    Choice Rumors from ESPN

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

    Gasol Offered To Blazers
    Jan 30 - Heard Portland was offered Pau Gasol ($12.3 million) for LaMarcus Aldridge ($4M), Sergio Rodriguez ($760G) and Jamaal Magloire's expiring ($8.433M) contract.

    Without doubt, Gasol and Zach Randolph would be a daunting duo to defend, but they'd also be a serious threat to give up as much as they put up. -- New York Post

    Peter Vecsey was the columnist reporting this.
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    Jones Out, Conroy In
    Jan 30 - Eddie Jones didn't officially play due to a coach's decision, but has agreed to a contract buyout with the team.

    The Griz could waive Jones as soon as today, and reportedly will sign former Washington guard Will Conroy to a 10-day contract. -- Memphis Commercial-Appeal

    Conroy spent Monday flying to Memphis, and his first game in uniform figures to be Wednesday night when the Grizzlies host fellow Seattle native Jason Terry and the Dallas Mavericks.

    "I'm excited, but you know, I've got to relax a little bit," Conroy said.

    "I'm not a guy who chases the money but chases the dream," he said. "My dream was to play in the NBA." -- Seattle Times
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    No Appeal
    Jan 30 - Magic GM Otis Smith, as usual this time of year, spent most of his Monday afternoon on his cell phone, talking with general managers from around the league, most looking to tinker with rosters through a trade.

    "I'm making calls, and taking a lot of calls," Smith said. "But 90 percent of the time, we're hearing from people who want something for nothing. We're likely to take the team we have into the summer, and then we'll be busy."

    He still gets calls about little-used Travis Diener, but no one has offered much real value in return. -- Orlando Sentinel
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    Point Guard Wanted
    Jan 30 - "(Pat) Riley is on the make for a steadying influence at the point," an east coast exec corroborates. "If Miami has any chance of defending its crown, he knows he's got to get someone more dependable than Jason (Williams) and Gary Payton."

    Williams is being shopped. During the offseason he underwent knee surgery and has yet to make a full recovery. That and his contract ($8.2M and $8.9M) make him a tough sell. Payton, meanwhile, is rapidly approaching retirement, the only thing he's doing quickly most evenings.

    "That's not all Miami is in the hunt for," a west coast exec reveals. "A lot of calls are being made in hopes of landing a legit scorer, someone like Ricky Davis." -- New York Post
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    'Half' Don't Know
    Jan 30 - He didn't say whether the national pundits who have expounded on his impatience and displeasure with Wolves brass are right, but Kevin Garnett did say Monday they didn't know what they were talking about.

    "People put words in my mouth. Half these people that talk, I've never met in my life," he said.

    "Half these people that say some of these things you hear have never spoken to me personally, and they're just making up stuff. At the end of the day it's just garbage." -- St. Paul Pioneer Press
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    New Land To Conquer
    Jan 30 - Sarunas Jasikevicius brought that experience back stateside by signing a $12 million, three-year deal with the Pacers. That contract has one year remaining after this season, a $4 million player option that Jasikevicius said he plans to exercise.

    "As a European player, (the NBA) was the last thing left to do," Jasikevicius said. "I knew I was good enough to play here for many years, but a good opportunity never presented itself. After the last time we won (the Euroleague title), I pretty much knew this was going to be it, I'm going to have to make that move, find a new thing to conquer." -- Contra Costa Times

    There were people here on the Digest speculating he wouldn't exercise his option.
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    Magloire Frustrated
    Jan 30 - Jamaal Magloire said he anticipates getting traded by the Trail Blazers before next month's deadline. He's playing only spot minutes as a backup.

    "I'm just trying to be professional and handle things as best as I can," Magloire said. "It's definitely frustrating to settle, and that's what they're asking me to do. That's very hard for me because I worked so hard and just hate having to settle." -- New Orleans Times-Picayune
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    Refusing To Think Lottery
    Jan 30 - The fact Danny Ainge was involved in the meeting yesterday in which the Celtics tried to discuss their way out of an 11-game losing streak runs counter to the theory that he'd just as soon run the table with defeats and pile up draft lottery tickets.

    But, as crazy as it might sound, the players are taking things even further. Eight games out of first place in the Atlantic Division with 39 to play, the Celts were reaching to rays of hope yesterday.

    "Every game we're going out to at least I know I'm going out to win basketball games," Delonte West said. "I think the team is also. We're still trying to turn the season around." -- Boston Herald
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    I thought Peter Vecsey's rumor of Pau Gasol being offered to Portland very interesting. From what I've read elsewhere it appears Memphis's GM West wants 2 young guys and aN expiring contract for Gasol.

    I thought, "Darn we have young guys, but no expiring contract." (Where are you Austin Croshere when you are needed)

    That made me go hmmm. If we could get Magloire's expiring contract from Portland, we might be able to do some business. Looking at possible trades I came up with this workable one on ESPN's trade checker.

    Indiana Pacers
    Incoming Players

    Dan Dickau
    Salary: $2,753,218 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 2.6 REB: 0.5 AST: 0.9 PER: 8.39

    Pau Gasol
    Salary: $12,364,000 Years Remaining: 5
    PTS: 20.2 REB: 8.0 AST: 3.0 PER: 25.28

    Outgoing Players:

    Jeff Foster,
    Rawle Marshall,
    Shawne Williams,
    Jamaal Tinsley

    Memphis Grizzlies
    Incoming Players

    Rawle Marshall
    Salary: $664,209 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 2.6 REB: 0.9 AST: 0.4 PER: 10.36

    Shawne Williams
    Salary: $1,367,760 Years Remaining: 2
    PTS: 2.2 REB: 0.9 AST: 0.3 PER: 9.30

    Jamaal Magloire
    Salary: $8,433,334 Years Remaining: 1
    PTS: 5.7 REB: 5.3 AST: 0.3 PER: 10.86

    Outgoing Players: Pau Gasol


    Portland Trail Blazers

    Incoming Players

    Jeff Foster
    Salary: $5,500,000 Years Remaining: 3
    PTS: 4.8 REB: 8.7 AST: 0.6 PER: 13.38

    Jamaal Tinsley
    Salary: $5,850,000 Years Remaining: 5
    PTS: 12.6 REB: 3.4 AST: 6.3 PER: 15.10

    Outgoing Players: Dan Dickau, Jamaal Magloire


    Instead of Marshall or Williams we could substitute Harrison or Dioqu and the trade would still work. If Diogu, we would have to trade him by himself for a Memphis contract that works. I prefer to keep either Williams or Marshall in that order. That would make the Pacers roster look like this,

    PF.....6'11 JO/ 6'10 Baston

    SF.....6'9 Range/ 6'8 Diogu, (Instead of Diogu, 6'9 Williams, or 6'7 Marshall)

    C......7'0 Gasol/ 6'11 Murphy/ 7'0 Harrison

    PG....6'0 Dickau/ 6'1 Armstrong/ 6'4 Greene

    SG....6'9 Dunleavy/ 6'6 Daniels

    EDIT; I would want our 2nd round draft pick back from Portland also. They still would have 2 others.
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    Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

    I see no reason why we want Gasol, unless we can get rid of Troy Murphy in the process which it is unlikely we deal him so soon and it is unlikely he is wanted for Pau Gasol.

    Secondly, the Blazers may want Jeff Foster but not Jamaal Tinsley. Heck I would think they have more use for Jamal Maglorie and his expiering contrac than Foster or Tinsley.

    However, I have been thinking that the Pacers should take a look at Dan Dickau. Something like David Harrison or Keith McLeod for Dickau. DD has done nothing in Portland but he did have a nice season with the Hornets a couple of years ago. DD would give us a different look at point guard and is certainly more capable of playing good than McLeod or Greene, IMO.

    Also, I saw on hoopshype that the Heat are looking to trade Jason Williams and they mention it here too. I was thinking of taking this opportunity to send Jamaal Tinsley to the Heat and Jason Williams here to Indiana. Only the Heat are looking for a second scoring opition as well so that may or may not work out for them.

    I'd do that swap though. It's pretty much junk for junk but the junk we get only has one more year left on his contract after this season.

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      Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

      JO and Gasol on the same team won't work.

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        Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

        Originally posted by Will Galen View Post
        http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

        Gasol Offered To Blazers
        Jan 30 - Heard Portland was offered Pau Gasol ($12.3 million) for LaMarcus Aldridge ($4M), Sergio Rodriguez ($760G) and Jamaal Magloire's expiring ($8.433M) contract.
        If the Grizzlies want to lose some salary while cheap and young....that's not that bad of an trade. I think this doesn't make as much sense for the Blazers...cuz getting Gasol is more of a move for a team that wants to win now....as opposed to slowly rebuilding ( what the Blazers appear to be doing ) with young players.

        Originally posted by Will Galen View Post
        http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

        Jones Out, Conroy In
        Jan 30 - Eddie Jones didn't officially play due to a coach's decision, but has agreed to a contract buyout with the team.
        I am guessing that we will hear the standard response from the Agent of a Player that has been bought out that will likely be immediately resigned by another team....."<< INSERT PLAYER'S NAME HERE >> wants to be in a winning team and win a championship ring ( I don't recall...did Eddie Jones already win a championship ring with the Lakers? ). The teams that are on the top of his list are Phoenix, Miami, Dallas, or Detroit".

        My money is on Miami.
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          Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

          I'd be slightly interested in signing Eddie Jones. Not much room for him, but it'd help to have another option. Plus if I recall the man can shoot, right?

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            Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

            Hell yeah on Eddie Jones. He would help our weak backcourt while giving the young guys a great veteran influence. That would be cool.

            Except: who do we cut?
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              Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

              Yeah I expect him to get to Miami.

              He played there before for a while.

              The Heat need a lot of help and Eddie can give them some shooting, defense, and overall veteran play.

              It's been ironic that the year before the Lakers won their first championship Eddie was traded and then the same thing happened with the Heat. So right now he is ringless.

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              • #8
                Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

                lmao @ dickau
                You Got The Tony!!!!!!

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                  Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

                  Originally posted by Hicks View Post
                  I'd be slightly interested in signing Eddie Jones. Not much room for him, but it'd help to have another option. Plus if I recall the man can shoot, right?
                  I compiled his stats over the last 3 full seasons ( given that he is 35 years old and has played in the NBA for 12 seasons.....I preferred to look at how he has done recently...which...IMHO is a more accurate depiction of what he is now capable of )

                  For a total of 8836 minutes over 265 games played ( since the start of the 2003-2004 season until now ):

                  33 MPG
                  13.1 PPG
                  4.1 FGM / 10.8 FGA / .41 FG%
                  1.7 3ptM / 4.9 3ptA / .36 3pt%
                  2.4 FTM / 3.0 FTA / .81 FT%
                  1.2 SPG
                  1.3 TOPG
                  4.0 RPG
                  2.6 APG

                  As a starting SG that will likely be a 3rd ( sometimes 2nd ) scoring option on the team, his stats aren't that bad given that he is 35 years old. If anything....its slightly comprable to SJax 2006-2007 overall stats with Indy from November to January ( although to SJax credit...his December Stats were far above his career averages ). I am guessing the difference is in Eddie's basketball smarts ( I'm assuming that he picked up some over his 12 year career ), experience and other intangibles that goes along with that.

                  If he can be had and is actually willing to come here for 2 seasons...then I am fine with that...but I doubt that he would go to Indy when teams like Miami, LA and Detroit will likely be asking for his services.
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                    Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

                    Originally posted by rommie View Post
                    Yeah I expect him to get to Miami.

                    He played there before for a while.

                    The Heat need a lot of help and Eddie can give them some shooting, defense, and overall veteran play.

                    It's been ironic that the year before the Lakers won their first championship Eddie was traded and then the same thing happened with the Heat. So right now he is ringless.
                    If this is true:

                    Originally posted by Will Galen View Post
                    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors
                    "That's not all Miami is in the hunt for," a west coast exec reveals. "A lot of calls are being made in hopes of landing a legit scorer, someone like Ricky Davis." -- New York Post
                    then I'm guessing its a forgone conclusion that Jones will head back to Miami given the seasons that he played there. Jones may not put up huge #s...but Jones is the type of player the Riley ( while pulling the puppet strings of Rothstein ) wants on his team.

                    I wouldn't be surprised if the Heat move James Posey ( and his expiring Contract ) for some future 2nd round draft picks and small contracts to make room for him.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

                      Portland needs Jamaal Tinsley like they need Reuben Patterson to return, so I'd say back to the drawing board.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

                        I like Jones.

                        We need a 2-for-1 trade.
                        This space for rent.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

                          Where is Harrison these days? Is he recovering from some injury that is another one of those pacer mysterious ailment that no one is talking about? Is he in the RC dog house? I haven't even seen him on the bench.

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                            Re: Choice Rumors from ESPN

                            Originally posted by speakout4 View Post
                            Where is Harrison these days? Is he recovering from some injury that is another one of those pacer mysterious ailment that no one is talking about? Is he in the RC dog house? I haven't even seen him on the bench.
                            I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he fouled out from the bench? IDK.

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                              I wonder why none of thes buyout guys ever want to come here .

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