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  • freddielewis14
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    • Jun 2008
    • 8799

    Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

    Originally posted by jrwannabe
    Why would match ups not have anything to do with it? If Taj is killing us in the post, I'd rather have LaVoy in the game over Thad. But if Taj is struggling, have Thad in and make him guard the 3 point line. I have no problem playing PG or CJ at the 4 if it's against a Love or Anderson type player, but having all stretch 4 players on the team will get you killed playing against Draymond Green or a Blake Griffin. A traditional PF type like Allen is not a bad thing to have on your team (especially at his salary, since the game is mainly moving away from the traditional PF you don't want to spend a lot of money). Allen is a PF, not a C. He's like the same height as PG, he just has a wider body.
    Not what I meant, I was say matchup doesn't change the fact that Thad is our only real PF.

    We just disagree on Lavoy. He was better for us last year as a center getting rebounds and setting screens next to Myles.

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    • Grimp
      Member
      • May 2013
      • 12423

      Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

      So um, Derrick Rose is supposedly available. Anyone interested? I really am not personally. He's one injury away from doom. But want to see what you guys think. This also leads to a bigger topic. If the Knicks blow it up who would you want outside of Melo or Porzingis? I might have interest in Justin Holiday.

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      • CableKC
        Member
        • Mar 2005
        • 36687

        Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

        Originally posted by Grimp
        So um, Derrick Rose is supposedly available. Anyone interested? I really am not personally. He's one injury away from doom. But want to see what you guys think. This also leads to a bigger topic. If the Knicks blow it up who would you want outside of Melo or Porzingis? I might have interest in Justin Holiday.
        We're offering a Near MAX or ( likely ) MAX contract offer to Teague as our future Starting PG. DRose is injury prone and ( before you say it ) NO he will not be coming off the bench for the amount of $$$ he is owed.

        Aim lower.....we're likely to hit some of the quality lower hanging fruit that would fit around Teague, Myles and ( if he's still here ) PG13 via trade or Free Agency.
        Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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        • sav
          Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 5460

          Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

          Originally posted by Grimp
          So um, Derrick Rose is supposedly available. Anyone interested? I really am not personally. He's one injury away from doom. But want to see what you guys think. This also leads to a bigger topic. If the Knicks blow it up who would you want outside of Melo or Porzingis? I might have interest in Justin Holiday.
          Lance Thomas would be interesting. He is a good 3 point shooter, decent defender and can play the 3 or 4.

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          • vnzla81
            Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 68174

            Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

            I guess Reggie's value is **** if that is what they are getting for him



            @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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            • wintermute
              Artificial Intelligence
              • Jan 2004
              • 7008

              Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

              Originally posted by sav
              Lance Thomas would be interesting. He is a good 3 point shooter, decent defender and can play the 3 or 4.
              He's not having a good season, but I was impressed with him last year. I thought he would make a good replacement for Solo.

              He's signed to a 4 year $27m deal, which would be cheap (especially compared to Solo LOL) if he can regain his previous form.

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              • vnzla81
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 68174

                Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES


                @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                • Grimp
                  Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 12423

                  Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

                  Originally posted by sav
                  Lance Thomas would be interesting. He is a good 3 point shooter, decent defender and can play the 3 or 4.
                  I wanted us to sign Lance in the off-season. But Knicks re-signed him. This season however he has struggled.

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                  • Grimp
                    Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 12423

                    Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

                    Originally posted by CableKC
                    We're offering a Near MAX or ( likely ) MAX contract offer to Teague as our future Starting PG. DRose is injury prone and ( before you say it ) NO he will not be coming off the bench for the amount of $$$ he is owed.

                    Aim lower.....we're likely to hit some of the quality lower hanging fruit that would fit around Teague, Myles and ( if he's still here ) PG13 via trade or Free Agency.


                    D. Rose aside I kind of think Larry has to aim higher now. Paul seems to be hesitant about staying put if Larry can't put a contender together. But what big name is available this deadline? Blake is off the table, Melo has a NTC, Cousins wants to retire a King (so he says), Bulls seem to wanna keep Jimmy, I am not sure about Hayward and the Jazz. But for now it seems they aren't gonna trade him. There just aren't any big names available.

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                    • cdash
                      Whale Shepherd
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 32259

                      Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

                      Originally posted by vnzla81

                      I can't wait for his next "debut for the ages".

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                      • Pacersalltheway10
                        B U T L E R..U a Bulldog!
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 3716

                        Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

                        This team is a dysfunctional mess and is incredibly poorly built. Every night they're getting lit up by 3 point shooters because the guys over help and they are definitely not long enough to be able to do that consistently well. There are three plus 3 point to shooters in the rotation, GRIII, Miles, and PG. I don't consider Teague, Turner, or Young pure shooters despite their good % on lower attempts compared to the rest. Al Jefferson has been great in his role, but honestly his role sucks. He is a defensive liability at this point and I would have rather picked up some athletic C for the fraction of the price last off season. Watching Ellis and Stuckey help then scramble back to contest a 3 point to shot only to see them shoot over those 2 is hard to watch. I don't think it's really much fault of their own. In the right roles they'd excel but right now it's just a cluster**** of mediocrity. Allen and Seraphin are good backups but there's so much redundancy that even their effective is hindered. I've been saying it for years and I'll keep on saying it. I just want to see some more 3 and D players on this team. I'm optimistic about Bentil because he's a nice change of pace compared to the current crop of 4s on the team but I doubt he'll ever wear a Pacers jersey. Bird is the one not adapting to the league (or he has but the Pacers are unlucky in acquiring the right personell). Teague and Turner have been great moves and Young was a good pickup but he wasted nearly $30 million on the trio of Ellis, Stuckey, and Jefferson.

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                        • TinManJoshua
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 1796

                          Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

                          Originally posted by Pacersalltheway10
                          This team is a dysfunctional mess and is incredibly poorly built. Every night they're getting lit up by 3 point shooters because the guys over help and they are definitely not long enough to be able to do that consistently well. There are three plus 3 point to shooters in the rotation, GRIII, Miles, and PG. I don't consider Teague, Turner, or Young pure shooters despite their good % on lower attempts compared to the rest. Al Jefferson has been great in his role, but honestly his role sucks. He is a defensive liability at this point and I would have rather picked up some athletic C for the fraction of the price last off season. Watching Ellis and Stuckey help then scramble back to contest a 3 point to shot only to see them shoot over those 2 is hard to watch. I don't think it's really much fault of their own. In the right roles they'd excel but right now it's just a cluster**** of mediocrity. Allen and Seraphin are good backups but there's so much redundancy that even their effective is hindered. I've been saying it for years and I'll keep on saying it. I just want to see some more 3 and D players on this team. I'm optimistic about Bentil because he's a nice change of pace compared to the current crop of 4s on the team but I doubt he'll ever wear a Pacers jersey. Bird is the one not adapting to the league (or he has but the Pacers are unlucky in acquiring the right personell). Teague and Turner have been great moves and Young was a good pickup but he wasted nearly $30 million on the trio of Ellis, Stuckey, and Jefferson.
                          There's a lot here, paragraph breaks might have helped, and it's probably in the wrong thread, but dammit if I don't agree with huge chunks of it.

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                          • Grimp
                            Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 12423

                            Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

                            I am really intrigued about what is going to happen in the next few days with this team. I KNOW Larry will make a trade. But the question is what direction will he go in? Will the acquired player be a win now player (late 20's/early 30's)? A win now and later player (mid 20's)? Or a win much later player (very early 20's)?

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                            • CableKC
                              Member
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 36687

                              Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

                              Originally posted by Grimp
                              I am really intrigued about what is going to happen in the next few days with this team. I KNOW Larry will make a trade. But the question is what direction will he go in? Will the acquired player be a win now player (late 20's/early 30's)? A win now and later player (mid 20's)? Or a win much later player (very early 20's)?
                              You know...u say the same thing every year at this time....you know that Bird will make a trade....and where do we end up? the same place as always.....nowhere.

                              Although I am sure that Bird is a "Buyer" in the market....he doesn't have much $$$$ to spend. The Pacers appear to be more of a "Seller" ( see AlJeff, Monta or any of the UFA like CJ or Team Option Players like Lavoy ).

                              IMHO....unless there is a trade that makes total sense and is a total no-brainer...Bird is more of a guy that likes to make major changes during the offseason and not during the Trade Deadline. At most, I'd expect a minor trade for someone that may help us off the bench.
                              Last edited by CableKC; 02-17-2017, 07:35 PM.
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                              • Grimp
                                Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 12423

                                Re: 2017 NBA TRADE DEADLINE RUMORS/TRADES

                                Originally posted by CableKC
                                You know...u say the same thing every year at this time....you know that Bird will make a trade....and where do we end up? the same place as always.....nowhere.

                                Although I am sure that Bird is a "Buyer" in the market....he doesn't have much $$$$ to spend. The Pacers appear to be more of a "Seller" ( see AlJeff, Monta or any of the UFA like CJ or Team Option Players like Lavoy ).

                                IMHO....unless there is a trade that makes total sense and is a total no-brainer...Bird is more of a guy that likes to make major changes during the offseason and not during the Trade Deadline. At most, I'd expect a minor trade for someone that may help us off the bench.


                                We're in a totally different scenario from last season though. EXTREMELY different.

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