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4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

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  • 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

    TOWARD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    Game Time Start: 12:30 PM ET
    Where: Air Canada Centre, Toronto, CA
    Officials: Scott Foster, Tony Brothers, Josh Tiven

    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, Toronto Notes
    Television: / SportsNet One
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM, 107.5 FM / CJCL 590, 1050 AM
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    REMINDER: Per PD policy, please do not share a link to, describe how to search for, request a link to, or request a PM about streaming video of a NBA game that is not coming directly through the NBA. Not even in a "wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know-what-I-mean" round-about sort of way. Thank you

    Away: 19-22
    Home: 32-9
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    CJ Miles - Sore Right Shoulder (questionable)

    None reported

    Previews: Toronto Raptors vs. Indiana Pacers
    Kelly Dwyer

    One of the wackier NBA regular seasons in history is over, for better or worse, and the two-month
    playoff run is set to begin. With the first round upon us, the minds at Ball Don't Lie decided to
    preview each series. We start with Toronto and Indiana.

    How They Got Here

    Toronto: After a long, typically blustery and chilly Toronto summer following yet another
    enervating first-round loss, the Raps could have entered training camp with lids drooped, and yet
    they turned in their best season in franchise history.

    General manager Masai Ujiri brought the whole gang back in 2015-16 following the team’s
    disappointing defeat at the hands of the Washington Wizards last year, relying on internal
    development and role player tweaking to turn the tide. The task of standing out seemed a rather
    formidable one entering the season as those same Wizards, the reigning East regular-season
    champion Hawks, the supposedly reborn Chicago Bulls and potentially healthy Miami Heat all
    wanted to lay claim to the East’s second seed behind Cleveland.

    Yet it was the Raptors who entered the season’s third-to-last day with a mathematical chance
    at the top seed in the East. That attempt fizzled out with Cleveland’s comeback win over Atlanta
    on Monday evening, but by the end of January Toronto had firmly established itself as the East’s
    clear No. 2 on the back of a versatile roster that could hit you on both ends.

    The defense has relented since then, but the offense still finds its moxie in the form of leader
    Kyle Lowry, who famously came to training camp in the best shape of his career, on his way
    toward a second consecutive All-Star berth. Joining him there was DeMar DeRozan, the sort of
    shooting guard who would lead the NBA in 2-point attempts in a 3-point world, more than
    making up for that by hitting over seven free throws a contest.

    Beyond there, role players abound. Major free-agent signee DeMarre Carroll struggled with
    injuries to his surgery-familiar right knee, but he returned for three games down the stretch
    and could slowly ease back into his old self as the long (we hope, right?) playoff march moves
    along. Veterans Luis Scola and Cory Joseph came straight out of central casting, Terrence Ross
    can still snipe and bench big men Patrick Patterson and Bismack Biyombo had two stellar

    Indiana: Indiana relied on a mini-blowup of sorts following the team’s playoff absence
    in 2015.

    The squad played most of that year without an injured Paul George, while watching big man
    Roy Hibbert turn into an anachronism some 25 minutes at a time. The team’s coaching staff and
    front office stated that it wanted to go small and fast to start 2015-16, and while they succeeded
    in as much in terms of roster development (dumping Hibbert on Los Angeles), this hasn’t been
    the most consistent of seasons.

    Still, the team is back in the postseason, and George turned in one of the better comeback
    seasons of the past 20 years: He hit for a career-high 23.1 points per game with seven rebounds,
    while playing in 81 games. His 4.1 assists and 1.9 steals also tied career highs.

    Signee Monta Ellis gave the Pacers his typical 13.8 points on 12.6 shots, George Hill can frustrate
    but he does play to the maximum of his potential and made over 40 percent of his 3-pointers,
    while guards C.J. Miles and Rodney Stuckey can turn second and late-third quarters on their ears
    in ways both good and bad.

    The real killers here are stalwart center Ian Mahinmi, who had a career year, and rookie Myles
    Turner. Mahinmi’s old man game is a welcome sight for a team that works with George at power
    forward for long stretches (though he doesn’t start there anymore, after weeks of chafing), and

    Can Toronto finally escape the first round?
    Yaron Weitzman

    The Raptors are in as good a position as ever to advance in the playoffs, but they also carry a
    history of two straight upset defeats. Will Indiana be the third?

    The Toronto Raptors just never faded. Unlike years past where they tailed off after a hot start,
    Toronto -- led by the NBA's best backcourt east of Oakland -- surged to the top of the conference
    standings and stayed there for the entire season.

    Dwayne Casey's bunch even gave LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers a bit of a scare. The
    Raptors failed to catch Cleveland in the end, but setting a franchise record for regular season wins
    and entering the playoffs as the No. 2 seed is a fine consolation prize.

    Things haven't gone as smoothly for the Indiana Pacers. Indiana came into the season looking to
    embrace the NBA's small ball, three-point shooting revolution. Initially, thanks to a scorching hot
    start from C.J. Miles, the plan worked.

    Eventually, though, Miles ceased shooting like the second coming of Klay Thompson and the
    Pacers, despite Paul George's stellar play, fell off a bit. The emergence of rookie Myles Turner, who
    may go down as one of the top picks in the 2015 draft, helped stabilize the team. But a porous
    crunch-time record -- the Pacers have dropped 20 games in which they once held a lead in the
    fourth quarter this season -- kept Indiana in the bottom half of the Eastern Conference playoff
    picture. Now the Pacers will have to take four out of seven games from a squad that's been one
    of the league's best all year.

    The key for the Pacers will be turning up the pace and getting the typically snail-like Raptors to
    do something they so rarely do: turn the ball over. Only five teams forced more turnovers per
    100 possessions this season than Indiana and only six teams turned the ball over less frequently
    than Toronto, per The Pacers were also No. 1 in the league in points off turnovers,
    meaning they rely on those cough-ups to kick start their often anemic offense. It will be hard for
    them to pull off the upset if the Raptors are able to hold onto the ball.

    Indiana does have some trees to guard the rim, which could make life difficult for the perpetually
    attacking Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan. As is seemingly always the case, Frank Vogel's team
    does an excellent job of limiting clean looks from deep. That means that Lowry and DeRozan will
    have to get even more creative in how they get their points, make sure they continue to draw
    contact and get to the foul line at a prolific rate.

    If, somehow, the Pacers are able...CONTINUE READING AT SBNATION

    Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows
    Ian Levy @HickoryHigh
    Whitney @its_whitney

    Doug Smith @SmithRaps
    Holly MacKenzie @stackmack
    Sam Holako @RapsFan
    Adam Francis @raptorshq
    Joseph Casciaro @JosephCasciaro
    Blake Murphy @BlakeMurphyODC

    Last edited by avoidingtheclowns; 04-16-2016, 10:03 AM.
    This is the darkest timeline.

  • #2
    Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

    Tony Brothers and Scott Foster. We're doomed.


    • #3
      Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

      Ah, yes. The feared Canadian Maple Leaf on steroids.


      • #4
        Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

        Originally posted by cdash View Post

        Ah, yes. The feared Canadian Maple Leaf on steroids.
        Fuxk the leafs. All gold everything!

        Sent from my Nexus 5X


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          Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

          Originally posted by cdash View Post

          Ah, yes. The feared Canadian Maple Leaf on steroids.
          Look at the veins on those leafs?! Let's hope they are more Laron Landry leafs than Chris Benoit.
          Danger Zone


          • #6
            Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

            Their second best player is better than ours but outside of that I feel like you could argue our roster is better than theirs. Am I crazy on this? And I've never thought we were exactly oozing with talent

            Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk
            Lifelong pacers fan


            • #7
              Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

              A big key in the first qtr will be Monta on Powell. Monta being the vet player has to win that matchup early.

              With that said, I'd like to see a steady diet of PG attacking early. Try and get some calls so we can get some momentum


              • #8
                Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                Originally posted by xIndyFan View Post
                Tony Brothers and Scott Foster. We're doomed.

                Simmons is right there with you.


                • #9
                  Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                  Originally posted by xIndyFan View Post
                  Tony Brothers and Scott Foster. We're doomed.
                  This is a joke, right? I mean, ATC is having us on, right?

                  If not, dear god, Toronto is going to score 60 points off free throws while the Pacers get to the line maybe twice.

                  A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
                  Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...


                  • #10
                    Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                    Are they starting Norman Powell over DeMarre Carroll?


                    • #11
                      Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                      Road team has won 12 straight games in the playoffs with Foster as the official you whiney babies.


                      • #12
                        Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                        I think winning game 1 is our only shot at getting this series.

                        We aren't good enough to win 3 games in a row against them, so even if we take game 2, I would expect us to drop 1 at home. If we take 3 and 4, I can't see us winning 5. If it somehow got to a game 7, the Raptors just have too much talent to lose at home in that environment unless they just choke big time.


                        • #13
                          Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                          Also, everyones favorite whipping boy(CJ Miles) is actually the one who can turn the tide in our favor in this series. The Raptors don't defend the 3 all too well and if Miles can get it going, it should open up the game for everyone else.


                          • #14
                            Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                            Originally posted by Hibbert View Post
                            Are they starting Norman Powell over DeMarre Carroll?
                            This is the darkest timeline.


                            • #15
                              Re: 4/16/2016 NBA Playoffs, First Round - Game Thread #1: Pacers Vs. Raptors

                              Don't fall for Valanciunas' tricks! Stay safe out there, Ian. No fouls!