1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

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  • avoidingtheclowns
    streets ahead
    • Jul 2006
    • 6118

    #1

    1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

    ILYASOVA! PACHULIA!
    ANTETOKOUNMPO
    INCORPORATED!



    -VS-



    Game Time Start: 8:30 PM ET
    Where: BMO Harris Bradley Center, Milwaukee, WI
    Officials: M. Davis, P. Fraher, JT Orr

    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, Milwaukee Notes
    Television: FOX Sports Indiana / FOX Sports Wisconsin
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM, 107.5 FM / WTMJ 620 AM
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    12-21
    Away: 5-12
    East: 7-10
    17-16
    Home: 7-6
    East: 11-10
    Jan 04
    Jan 05
    Jan 07
    Jan 09
    9:30pm
    9:00pm
    10:30pm
    7:00pm
    HIBBERT
    WEST
    HILL
    STUCKEY
    HILL
    PACHULIA
    ANTETOKOUNMPO
    O'BRYANT
    MIDDLETON
    KNIGHT


    PACERS
    Paul George - Fractured Right Tibia/Fibula (out)
    Ian Mahinmi โ€“ Torn Left Plantar Fascia (out)

    BUCKS
    Jerryd Bayless - Sore left knee (Probable)
    Ersan Ilyasova - Concussion (Out)
    Damien Inglis - right ankle (Out)
    Jabari Parker - ACL injury (Out)
    Larry Sanders - Illness (Out)



    Jeremy Schmidt: The struggle at the hoop is real for Larry Sanders

    Honestly, there was no need to worry. There was only about a 50/50 chance he was going
    to make that shot anyway. Heyyoooo.

    But really, thatโ€™s the problem with Larry Sanders right now, and his biggest problem is a
    problem for a team that could be counting on his development going forward.

    There are a handful of youngish players on the Milwaukee Bucks. To varying degrees, the
    development of these players is crucial to the success of the Milwaukee Bucks in the
    coming years. Regardless of how well the likes of Jared Dudley, Jerryd Bayless and Zaza
    Pachulia play over the next few months, they wonโ€™t be the players that decide if the Bucks
    will be prosperous or poor when the team rolls the ball out for the first time in the yet to
    be located, yet to be financed, yet to be named new Milwaukee Arena.

    If weโ€™re ruling those guys out as potential contributors, itโ€™s at least fair to wonder about
    guys like Sanders and Brandon Knight and just how attached to their respective futures
    the Bucks are. Maybe a lot, maybe not at all. Itโ€™s not hard to imagine either of them
    playing with a different team as early as next season.

    For now, letโ€™s assume the $33 million owed to Larry Sanders after this season will be paid
    by the Bucks. If thatโ€™s the case, how can he start to show more return on investment?

    Itโ€™s difficult to judge whether or not Sanders is having a โ€œdownโ€ year right now. His PER is
    a league average 15. Heโ€™s only playing 21 minutes a night, but still averaging 7.3 points,
    6.1 rebounds and 1.4 blocks per game. All of these numbers are down โ€“ per game and per
    36 minutes โ€“ from his breakout seasons in 2012-13, but theyโ€™re at least comparable to
    slightly better than his numbers from last season. And while heโ€™s still a difference maker
    defensively, he hardly seems like the barrier he proved to be two season ago.

    Among regulars who are defending at least five shots per game at the rim, heโ€™s 11th in
    defensive field goal percentage, allowing opponents to shoot 45.8%. Despite last yearโ€™s
    mess of a season, Sanders finished second in defensive field goal percentage with the
    same variables applied, allowing opponents to shoot just 41.5% at the rim. Among those
    who qualify for the blocks per game leaderboard this season, Sanders ranks 16th in
    defensive rating, helping to limit opponents to 100 points per 100 possessions while heโ€™s
    on the court. Last season, one that seems more and more to have been without much of
    a defensive strategy, his defensive rating was 107.

    So heโ€™s probably fallen off a bit from his peak in 2012-13 as a defender, but heโ€™s still
    definitely a plus there. If he can maintain this level of defense over the next three
    seasons, itโ€™d be difficult to complain about that.

    But itโ€™s easy to complain about Sanders on the other side of the ball.

    Among the 48 players who attempt at least five shots within five feet per game, Sanders
    ranks 37th in field goal percentage, converting on just 56% of his shots. Why so low? The
    best explanation is simply that Sanders canโ€™t finish in traffic. Letโ€™s compare Sanders
    numbers when heโ€™s closely guarded this season to some of his athletic, shot-blocking,
    finishing big man brethren. Iโ€™ve pulled numbers for Sanders, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre
    Jordan and Andre Drummond, three other bigs with comparable money and skillsets:


    Each of these players shoots the vast majority of his shots within five feet of the hoop
    and typically each player is well guarded when heโ€™s trying to finish whether heโ€™s fighting
    off defenders as heโ€™s trying to putback an offensive rebound or trying to loft in something
    inside the charge circle. Basically if someoneโ€™s right up on any of these guys, itโ€™s a 50-50
    chance โ€“ a little better in Chandlerโ€™s case โ€“ that heโ€™ll finish.

    But when they have some space, Chandler and Jordan are almost automatic, hitting
    roughly 75% of shots when defenders are not within two feet. Sanders and Drummond
    are still working to master the open finish, though Drummondโ€™s numbers indicate heโ€™s
    getting more looks than just putbacks.

    Sanders was even worse with defenders โ€œvery tightโ€ on him last season, making just 34%
    of his shots. So at least heโ€™s showing progress? But right now, it isnโ€™t enough. Heโ€™s just
    getting putbacks and rim runs and he isnโ€™t finishing anywhere near enough of them to be
    a contributor, even at the most basic level... READ MORE AT BUCKSKETBALL


    Pacers
    Candace Buckner @CandaceDBuckner
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows
    Ian Levy @HickoryHigh
    Whitney @its_whitney

    Bucks
    Charles F. Gardner @cf_gardner
    Jeremy Schmidt @Bucksketball
    K L Chouinard @AnaheimAmigos
    Frank Madden @brewhoop
    Dan Sinclair @dan_sinclair
    Steve von Horn @StevevonHorn

    This is the darkest timeline.
  • TinManJoshua
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 1796

    #2
    Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

    I hope we win. In order to so so, we've gotta do it... our way. Yes, our way.

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    • 31Since1990
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 3457

      #3
      Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

      Anyone going to this game in Milwaukee? I'm down to catch a beer before the game.

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      • diamonddave00
        Long time fan
        • Aug 2004
        • 1991

        #4
        Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

        George Hill is not playing tonight and CJ Watson is questionable

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        • TMJ31
          BOOM BABY!
          • Mar 2004
          • 9849

          #5
          Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

          I would have made the 5 hour drive to Milwaukee for this one were it not my Mom's birthday.

          I'll be catching this one on DVR tonight. Shame we're going to be woefully shorthanded again. Getting a road win against a surprisingly not-awful division opponent would be really good for us right now.

          Hopefully we revert back to our early season next-man-up mentality.

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          • Phree Refill
            Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 850

            #6
            Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

            Originally posted by diamonddave00
            George Hill is not playing tonight and CJ Watson is questionable
            Blehhhhh. Donnie Sloan time.

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            • BillS
              Angry Old Poster
              • Mar 2004
              • 21856

              #7
              Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

              GHill with a sore groin.

              What are these guys DOING on their off days? Back in my day, we were supposed to stay away from that kind of stuff during training and the season
              BillS

              A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
              Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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              • Trader Joe
                DIET COKE!
                • Jan 2006
                • 47062

                #8
                Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

                Injuries for all!


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                • Peck
                  Administrator
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 20053

                  #9
                  Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

                  Sweet Lavern & Shirley reference......


                  Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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                  • kester99
                    The light, not the lie.
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 9566

                    #10
                    Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

                    Donald Sloan will do just fine.


                    [~]) ... Cheers! Go Pacers!

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                    • boombaby1987
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 4420

                      #11
                      Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

                      Why is the board so dead?
                      There is no NBA player named Monte Ellis.

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                      • Hoop
                        PG who Points
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6110

                        #12
                        Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

                        Good Win! Sloan really came up big with G.Hill and Watson out. I'm really starting to like Miles, don't tell anyone.
                        "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"

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                        • TMJ31
                          BOOM BABY!
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 9849

                          #13
                          Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

                          Originally posted by boombaby1987
                          Why is the board so dead?
                          Lots of folks probably could not connect to the board due to the DNS server issues earlier in the day.

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                          • LG33
                            Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 21070

                            #14
                            Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

                            I thought they outplayed us throughout the first half (and I was definitely feeling a blowout after the 1st quarter), so, needless to say, I'm very happy with the win.

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                            • joew8302
                              Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 9561

                              #15
                              Re: 1/2/15 Game Thread #34: Pacers vs. Bucks

                              Are are tough as nails. That 4th quarter was about as gritty as you can get.

                              You can really tell Jason Kidd is the coach of this team by how much they ran. Kendall Marshall really feels like a Jason Kidd type point guard.

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