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  • ECKrueger
    Boilermaker (TJL)
    • Oct 2007
    • 6098

    Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

    This is now the second most posted in thread on PD

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    • BlueNGold
      Banned
      • Aug 2005
      • 32249

      Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

      Originally posted by ECKrueger
      This is now the second most posted in thread on PD

      Hey, it comes as no surprise. He was always filling the stat sheets.

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      • Ace E.Anderson
        Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 18261

        Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

        Originally posted by BlueNGold
        Oh, man that hurts. I think Lance is many things including immature, poorly raised, poorly advised, poorly coached prior to the NBA, misunderstood by even fairly educated fans and unfortunate with where he landed in Charlotte. It is a sad tail for sure. But if you ask most people he's really a good guy. I don't think he flipped off the Pacers. He felt spurned by the Pacers when a) Simon was very direct that the offer was take-it-or-leave-it and b) the Pacers followed that up immediately by acquiring CJ Miles. That made Lance feel like the Pacers were ready to move on and the way Simon talked I'm not sure if I would want to come back either.
        Poorly raised? Lance had an excellent upbringing given the circumstances. He was coddled a bit, but what 5star college recruit isn't? He had a lot of maturity issues when he was younger, some of which followed him to the pros. But that didn't have to do with poor upbringing.

        I also disagree that he gave the Pacers the finger. Lance gave the pacers the first shot at re-signing him. He didn't agree with the terms, and left because he thought he had a better situation elsewhere. That's what free agency is.

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        • BlueNGold
          Banned
          • Aug 2005
          • 32249

          Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

          Originally posted by Ace E.Anderson
          Poorly raised? Lance had an excellent upbringing given the circumstances. He was coddled a bit, but what 5star college recruit isn't? He had a lot of maturity issues when he was younger, some of which followed him to the pros.

          I also disagree that he gave the Pacers the finger. Lance gave the pacers the first shot at re-signing him. He didn't agree with the terms, and left because he thought he had a better situation elsewhere. That's what free agency is.
          I'm not going to dig it up, but I read this all very closely. Lance and possibly his handlers were offended by the way the Pacers handled things. At first they stroked him but then Simon came out and acted like he didn't want him. Then they signed CJ right after that. That is exactly why he didn't even come back to Bird to negotiate. With CJ's signing I think Lance said something to the effect..."and that was that". He felt like the Pacers were all too ready to go with their Plan B.

          Honestly, I think some in the organization didn't want Lance back. I think there was probably a lot of discussion about that. Also, I think Simon wasn't bluffing. I think he was done negotiating and made that clear. But the result of the statements by Simon and the signing of CJ Miles is why Lance left in a huff. Was he wrong to do that? Obviously now the answer is yes.

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          • cdash
            Whale Shepherd
            • Jun 2009
            • 32259

            Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

            Originally posted by spazzxb
            Most the people here criticizing Lance never liked him. They have been hating on him since he was a rookie.

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            That's a load of crap and you know it. Most people posting in here are Pacers fans that will support Pacers players pretty much unconditionally. I can think of exactly two Pacers I have actively disliked while they played for the Pacers: Gerald Green and Evan Turner. I'm probably as vocal of a Lance "hater" as anyone and if someone dug up the draft thread from the PG/Lance draft, I actually said I thought Lance would be better than PG.

            This is just my opinion, but I think BnG has more to do with people disliking Lance than Lance himself. 100% serious.

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            • JimmyJames
              Pacer fan since Reggie
              • Jan 2015
              • 2696

              Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

              Originally posted by ECKrueger
              This is now the second most posted in thread on PD

              I would like to see the stats for post ratio. Like what % of the post come from the same 2 guys


              "Pacers will win 50 games this season" 07-16-2015
              "Ian will average 10-10 this season" 10-21-15

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              • spazzxb
                Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 3361

                Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                Originally posted by cdash
                That's a load of crap and you know it. Most people posting in here are Pacers fans that will support Pacers players pretty much unconditionally. I can think of exactly two Pacers I have actively disliked while they played for the Pacers: Gerald Green and Evan Turner. I'm probably as vocal of a Lance "hater" as anyone and if someone dug up the draft thread from the PG/Lance draft, I actually said I thought Lance would be better than PG.

                This is just my opinion, but I think BnG has more to do with people disliking Lance than Lance himself. 100% serious.
                I have been aurguing with Since86 since he was a rookie. TJ lead TEAM AJ with Sookie. really liked him, I don't remember you ever liking him(maybe I am wrong). I meant most people in this thread not PD.

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                • cdash
                  Whale Shepherd
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 32259

                  Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                  Originally posted by spazzxb
                  I have been aurguing with Since86 since he was a rookie. TJ lead TEAM AJ with Sookie. really liked him, I don't remember you ever liking him(maybe I am wrong). I meant most people in this thread not PD.

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                  What does AJ Price have to do with anything?

                  I didn't dislike Lance until he left the Pacers. I will admit, I was tired of him by the time the playoffs ended the summer he left. I was perfectly fine letting him walk.

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                  • BlueNGold
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 32249

                    Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                    Originally posted by cdash
                    That's a load of crap and you know it. Most people posting in here are Pacers fans that will support Pacers players pretty much unconditionally. I can think of exactly two Pacers I have actively disliked while they played for the Pacers: Gerald Green and Evan Turner. I'm probably as vocal of a Lance "hater" as anyone and if someone dug up the draft thread from the PG/Lance draft, I actually said I thought Lance would be better than PG.

                    This is just my opinion, but I think BnG has more to do with people disliking Lance than Lance himself. 100% serious.
                    I have done very little to deserve that. Just because I defend Lance when people say he took George Hill's mojo or Roy Hibbert's rebounds? I realize the result is that I am on the other side of the fence from people praising those guys but I have said time and time again that George Hill is a very good player. I am a fan. I'm not irrational about it. But I like George Hill the basketball player. Hibbert, well, can't win'em all.

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                    • spazzxb
                      Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 3361

                      Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                      Originally posted by cdash
                      What does AJ Price have to do with anything?

                      I didn't dislike Lance until he left the Pacers. I will admit, I was tired of him by the time the playoffs ended the summer he left. I was perfectly fine letting him walk.
                      AJ Price fans got mad that Lance took his minutes and became his first haters. Rumors involving his ex-girlfriend didn't help either.

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                      • BlueNGold
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 32249

                        Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                        Originally posted by cdash
                        Proof positive that you and McKeyFan have obscenely strong feelings regarding Lance might be more accurate.
                        Here is post #9. The first direct hit which started it all.

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                        • cdash
                          Whale Shepherd
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 32259

                          Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                          Originally posted by BlueNGold
                          I have done very little to deserve that. Just because I defend Lance when people say he took George Hill's mojo or Roy Hibbert's rebounds? I realize the result is that I am on the other side of the fence from people praising those guys but I have said time and time again that George Hill is a very good player. I am a fan. I'm not irrational about it. But I like George Hill the basketball player. Hibbert, well, can't win'em all.
                          Well, it's just my opinion. It's certainly possible I'm the only person who feels that way (although I'm pretty confident that I'm not). I'm not going to revisit the circle jerk on why I think that, it's just my opinion.

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                          • cdash
                            Whale Shepherd
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 32259

                            Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                            Originally posted by BlueNGold
                            Here is post #9. The first direct hit which started it all.
                            Okay. Well this whole thread is all my fault then. I started it all, apparently. Although I don't think I said anything that wasn't true or out of line.

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                            • BlueNGold
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 32249

                              Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                              Originally posted by cdash
                              Well, it's just my opinion. It's certainly possible I'm the only person who feels that way (although I'm pretty confident that I'm not). I'm not going to revisit the circle jerk on why I think that, it's just my opinion.
                              I'm sure you're not the only person. I'm one of the few, very much outnumbered, that still supports Lance 100% and wants to see him do better.

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                              • BlueNGold
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 32249

                                Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so

                                Originally posted by spazzxb
                                AJ Price fans got mad that Lance took his minutes and became his first haters. Rumors involving his ex-girlfriend didn't help either.

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                                I didn't know that. I thought it started with the Granger mob and then moved on to the George Hill gang and Roy Hibbert clan all trying to cut Lance down in different ways. There were even Solomon Hill homies, but fortunately the Pacers wised up and didn't pick up the team option.

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