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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
Turner 30 pts 5 boards 4 dimes 2 stls tonite
either brad stevens can turn water too wine or turners not half as bad as originally believed. he has put together a reasonably solid season for the celticsComment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
He's been too up and down all year for my taste. Reminds me of a poor man's Lance Stephenson from last year, but Lance was far more consistent.Turner 30 pts 5 boards 4 dimes 2 stls tonite
either brad stevens can turn water too wine or turners not half as bad as originally believed. he has put together a reasonably solid season for the celticsComment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
Turner 30 pts 5 boards 4 dimes 2 stls tonite
either brad stevens can turn water too wine or turners not half as bad as originally believed. he has put together a reasonably solid season for the celtics
Evan's game has weaknesses like everyone elses but ultimately, he would've worked better here with a full training camp/off-season prep, etc. To rip a young player having a career ppg year from a team he leads in scoring and minutes and overall as their best player, and then drop him onto a contender coming from a basement team, demote him to 6th best player, and bring him off the bench demoting him from starter on his previous team, was too much to ask him to adjust to in like 2 months.
CJ Miles would've been the better trade acquisition in 2014. Turner would've been the better free agent acquisition last Summer. He would've been restricted but Philly was not gonna match, they had committed to losing and continue to do so.Comment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
Everyone can have a good game. He's still an average player, that has some decent all around skills. But average nonethelessTurner 30 pts 5 boards 4 dimes 2 stls tonite
either brad stevens can turn water too wine or turners not half as bad as originally believed. he has put together a reasonably solid season for the celticsComment
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Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank VogelComment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
He's averaging 9 points a game on a team that can't make the playoffs in the East and he was a freaking dumpster fire for us last season. Lance is having a bad season too but I can at least see why people got excited about him. Evan Turner has never shown me any reason he can be a difference maker in this league, sorry.Turner 30 pts 5 boards 4 dimes 2 stls tonite
either brad stevens can turn water too wine or turners not half as bad as originally believed. he has put together a reasonably solid season for the celticsLast edited by rabid; 03-14-2015, 03:31 AM.Comment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
Roy Hibbert was a dumpster fire for the pacers as well last season. In fact practically the entire team the second half of the season was a cluster
. Turners averaging 9 pts, 5 assists, and 5 boards. Lance is averaging the exact same and getting 3X the salary. If I gotta choose between two players that are both average give me the one on the books at 1/3 of the cost with less immaturity issues to boot.
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
There could be a discussion about coaches and somehow PP would manage to get Roy Hibbert into the conversation....Comment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
Well, since we're talking about Roy Hibbert...
Roy Hibbert isn't really a problem. Yes, he's regressed from two or three seasons ago but the drop off hasn't been extreme. He's a decent enough C to start on a team with aspirations for an NBA title. No, he's not worth that contract but he doesn't qualify as a bad contract. We are actually in good condition on that front. We just need Paul back and give this team a chance to see what it can actually do. We might have missed that brief window for a small market team to click just right for a title since DWest is aging and our SG position is questionable. But we will be a good team next year regardless. The magic that it takes to win a title might happen in the Paul George era. There is just more reason to doubt it happens with our current roster and age issues.Comment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
Roy Hibbert was a dumpster fire for the pacers as well last season. In fact practically the entire team the second half of the season was a cluster. Turners averaging 9 pts, 5 assists, and 5 boards. Lance is averaging the exact same and getting 3X the salary. If I gotta choose between two players that are both average give me the one on the books at 1/3 of the cost with less immaturity issues to boot.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte...ce-stephenson/
I said before, it was all timing. Larry made the right move, just the wrong time. Yanking a ball dominant player having a career year from a bad team, and expecting him to mesh with a serious championship contender in 2 months or less with another piece (Bynum) on the horizon was impossible. CJ Miles was the correct trade to have made.
3pt specialist, would've stretched the floor versus Miami if you play him with Rasual, Cope, CJ Watson. 4 3pt shooters on the floor at the same time, who all have size as well. This past off-season, if Lance leaves for Charlotte then you offer Evan Turner a contract as a RFA. Philly wouldn't have matched so you would've gotten him for pretty cheap. You then re-sign CJ Miles and pick up Stuckey for cheap.
To create a bit more salary room, Scola would've probably have to have been moved and Rudez signing doesn't happen but a team with....
West
Paul
Roy
Stuckey
Hill
Copeland
Turner
Ian
Miles
Watson
Would've been a serious contender to come out of the East this season.Comment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
Roy's per 36:
One from the 12-13 season in which he played so well and one from this year... Can anyone tell me which one is which??
14.9 PPG .448 FG% 10.4 RPG 3.3 BPG 3.6 FTA .741 FT%
14.8 PPG .443 FG% 10.1 RPG 2.5 BPG 3.8 FTA .829 FT%Comment
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Re: All things Lance Stephenson thread for the next year or so
But if only he had played well in 12-13. He played much better in 11-12 which was the start of a downward slide. He is playing somewhat worse than 12-13...but that's not the issue. He actually, as a guy entering his prime, should be getting better from his 11-12 performance but that's not happened.
Along with that, Roy's minutes are down (this year). Of course he will be well rested and without Paul you would think he'd have more touches and far more points...and minutes. But he's not been that good. Certainly not as good as 11-12 which is the year you should have specified as a comparison...if you are comparing to a very good year.
With that said, I will take Roy with all his warts. He's still the man in the middle and good enough to play on a team vying for a title. But let's not pretend his career has gone all that well since 2011-12 because it really hasn't. He plateaued and has had some amount of regression since his peak.Comment
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