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Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

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  • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

    Originally posted by CableKC View Post
    It seems that many people have a favorable take on Devin Booker and RJ Hunter. Hunter appears to be mocked in the 20s in most mock Drafts. Devin Booker is within reach at 12 or 15.

    Are either capable Off The Ball Wings? With Players like GH, PG13 and ( hopefully ) Stuckey handling the ball.....we need effective Off The Ball Players.
    I think all of those guys besides Grant are capable of that, Oubre has range on his 3 but has to become more consistent, Booker played for Kentucky where they had so many options and was mostly off the ball, Hunter may have had the ball a little more than the others, but he still is very capable of playing off the ball, and I think Dekker is as well, although he did not play that way at Wisconson much, but when he did have the ball it was often times trying to find the open teammate instead of look for his own shot atleast until the tourney when he was taking guys off the drive, this is why I think he will be a better pro than most people give him credit for.

    Dekkers role will definetly change at the next level which will be good for him, I think he will a better off the ball player in the NBA.
    Why so SERIOUS

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    • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

      Originally posted by joew8302 View Post
      Not sure about Booker, but I think Hunter can. From what I have seen RJ can spread the floor well and has already been playing under pressure for a while. I wouldn't draft him at #12 or 13, but if we somehow acquire a pick in the 20's I would take a serious look at him.
      Booker is definitely an off the ball type of player. He plays a similar game to Klay Thompson, just not quite as strong with the ball good just yet. He's not the strongest defender (physically I mean) just yet, but that should improve with age. Booker is a very good shooter, and has a high motor. He also seems to be the type of guy that can fit well next to more high profile teammates.

      But I like Booker as a pro a lot more than Hunter. He's got size, athleticism, and has played against better competition. Hunter is a fantastic shooter, with great confidence and a high bball IQ. He's gotten better as a ball handler, but from what I've seen - idk that he's a starter at the next level. I wonder if people like him as much as they do because he's from Indy.
      Last edited by Ace E.Anderson; 04-15-2015, 09:21 AM.

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      • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

        Originally posted by Really? View Post
        Oubre has range on his 3 but has to become more consistent,
        Oubre is interesting. On one hand, he's got the size, length and athleticism of a starting NBA wing. He reminds me a bit of a skinnier Brandon Rush. In both a good way and a bad way. Oubre could be a very good player in the league, or he could be a guy that bounces around. It's all about what's upstairs in his head.

        The fact that a lot of KU players have disappointed in the league doesn't help either. I'll be really interested where he goes

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        • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

          Originally posted by Ace E.Anderson View Post
          Booker is definitely an off the ball type of player. He plays a similar game to Klay Thompson, just not quite as strong with the ball good just yet. He's not the strongest defender (physically I mean) just yet, but that could improve with age. Booker is a very good shooter, and has a high motor. He also seems to be the type of guy that can fit well next to more high profile teammates.

          But I like Booker as a pro a lot more than Hunter. He's got size, athleticism, and has played against better competition. Hunter is a fantastic shooter, with great confidence and a high bball IQ. He's gotten better as a ball handler, but from what I've seen - idk that he's a starter at the next level. I wonder if people like him as much as they do because he's from Indy.
          Yeah I think Hunter can be a solid piece at the next level, he has a fast enough release to hit contested 3's with the amount of elevation he gets, in addition he is pretty solid at coming off screens, he still is only 6'5" but seems pretty long... on offense he kind of reminds me of a poor mans Reggie Miller.

          I like Booker though, I think he can have a better all around game in the NBA as he develops.
          Why so SERIOUS

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          • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

            Originally posted by Ace E.Anderson View Post
            Oubre is interesting. On one hand, he's got the size, length and athleticism of a starting NBA wing. He reminds me a bit of a skinnier Brandon Rush. In both a good way and a bad way. Oubre could be a very good player in the league, or he could be a guy that bounces around. It's all about what's upstairs in his head.

            The fact that a lot of KU players have disappointed in the league doesn't help either. I'll be really interested where he goes
            Totally agree, most potential, but question production and if he will ever be able to pull it together, but I think BPA often takes account of potential more than production, especially for younger players.
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            • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

              Originally posted by Really? View Post
              Yeah I think Hunter can be a solid piece at the next level, he has a fast enough release to hit contested 3's with the amount of elevation he gets, in addition he is pretty solid at coming off screens, he still is only 6'5" but seems pretty long... on offense he kind of reminds me of a poor mans Reggie Miller.

              I like Booker though, I think he can have a better all around game in the NBA as he develops.
              I don't want to make it seem like I don't think RJ will be good. I definitely see some Marco Belineli in his game. He is crafty, and his length will definitely help him. I'd bet anything that he gets drafted by a team like the Spurs or Atlanta and looks good.

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              • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                Originally posted by Ace E.Anderson View Post
                I don't want to make it seem like I don't think RJ will be good. I definitely see some Marco Belineli in his game. He is crafty, and his length will definitely help him. I'd bet anything that he gets drafted by a team like the Spurs or Atlanta and looks good.
                Yeah, I think he is good, but not sure if he is the best piece for the Pacers to add, I think there or other options that will work pretty well, but his shooting will allow him to stay in the league for a long time.
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                • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                  Booker is listed at 6'6 but is shorter than the Harrison twins so prob 6'4. Not a ball handler, and not quick at all. A standstill 3 point threat specialist iin the NBA and with lack of height, strength and quickness questionable on defense. A good specialst off the bench.

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                  • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                    Originally posted by Really? View Post
                    Not all these players are wings to start so that makes it a bit easier, I guess Grant is a 1/2 at the next level, and I consider Dunn a PG.

                    With that said, as I rank them for the Pacers:

                    Oubre - highest potential and good overall fit
                    Booker - potential and offensive fit
                    Dekker - all around decent game
                    Hunter - offensive fit
                    Grant - see him as a ball dominate PG rather than a decent 2 at the next level
                    Dunn - see him as a PG only
                    Can any of those guys play any defense?

                    Booker doesn't do anything other than shoot. Not a good rebounder. Doesn't get steals or blocks. Not very athetlic. He just shoots. Just too 1 dimensional to take so high.
                    Oubre has potential, but lots of question marks too. Someone mentioned, KU players haven't translated recently, and I get a Brandon Rush vibe from this guy. Could be a 3&D guy, but we already have Solomon Hill for that and we didn't have to spend a lottery pick for him either.
                    Dekker - when your best attributes are listed as good height for position, intagibles and versatility (Draft Express), that is a huge red flag to me. That sounds like end of 1st round/early 2nd round type a guy to me. Not fringe lottery! Don't let a good playoff run delude you. Austin Croshere affect.
                    Hunter - probably the best of the bunch that were listed. He has potential on both sides, but still lacks a bit of athleticism that this team really needs.

                    One guy that wasn't mentioned that I like is Caris LaVertt. He should be young enough to come back from the broken foot. Another guy that has potential on both sides of the floor. He should be more athletic than Hunter.

                    Too bad Justice Winslow wouldn't be there. Winslow/PG would be an awesome dou.
                    First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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                    • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                      I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Rashad Vaughn in the 2nd round. He's definitely a work in progress but could be a player who could get us some points off the bench.

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                      • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                        Originally posted by diamonddave00 View Post
                        Booker is listed at 6'6 but is shorter than the Harrison twins so prob 6'4. Not a ball handler, and not quick at all. A standstill 3 point threat specialist iin the NBA and with lack of height, strength and quickness questionable on defense. A good specialst off the bench.
                        At the UK Pro day he was 6'5 w/o shoes, and 6'6 with them. It will be interesting to see his pre draft measurements

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                        • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                          Originally posted by Sparhawk View Post
                          Can any of those guys play any defense?

                          Booker doesn't do anything other than shoot. Not a good rebounder. Doesn't get steals or blocks. Not very athetlic. He just shoots. Just too 1 dimensional to take so high.
                          Oubre has potential, but lots of question marks too. Someone mentioned, KU players haven't translated recently, and I get a Brandon Rush vibe from this guy. Could be a 3&D guy, but we already have Solomon Hill for that and we didn't have to spend a lottery pick for him either.
                          Dekker - when your best attributes are listed as good height for position, intagibles and versatility (Draft Express), that is a huge red flag to me. That sounds like end of 1st round/early 2nd round type a guy to me. Not fringe lottery! Don't let a good playoff run delude you. Austin Croshere affect.
                          Hunter - probably the best of the bunch that were listed. He has potential on both sides, but still lacks a bit of athleticism that this team really needs.

                          One guy that wasn't mentioned that I like is Caris LaVertt. He should be young enough to come back from the broken foot. Another guy that has potential on both sides of the floor. He should be more athletic than Hunter.

                          Too bad Justice Winslow wouldn't be there. Winslow/PG would be an awesome dou.
                          Hunter is both less athletic and smaller than Booker.

                          He is quite a bit longer than Booker however. Hunter seems to lack lateral quickness though
                          Last edited by Ace E.Anderson; 04-15-2015, 12:38 PM.

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                          • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                            Originally posted by Sparhawk View Post
                            Can any of those guys play any defense?

                            Booker doesn't do anything other than shoot. Not a good rebounder. Doesn't get steals or blocks. Not very athetlic. He just shoots. Just too 1 dimensional to take so high.
                            Oubre has potential, but lots of question marks too. Someone mentioned, KU players haven't translated recently, and I get a Brandon Rush vibe from this guy. Could be a 3&D guy, but we already have Solomon Hill for that and we didn't have to spend a lottery pick for him either.
                            Dekker - when your best attributes are listed as good height for position, intagibles and versatility (Draft Express), that is a huge red flag to me. That sounds like end of 1st round/early 2nd round type a guy to me. Not fringe lottery! Don't let a good playoff run delude you. Austin Croshere affect.
                            Hunter - probably the best of the bunch that were listed. He has potential on both sides, but still lacks a bit of athleticism that this team really needs.

                            One guy that wasn't mentioned that I like is Caris LaVertt. He should be young enough to come back from the broken foot. Another guy that has potential on both sides of the floor. He should be more athletic than Hunter.

                            Too bad Justice Winslow wouldn't be there. Winslow/PG would be an awesome dou.
                            If we are looking at drafting a Future Starter at the Wing spot.....with GH and PG13 ( hopefully part of the VERY LONG TERM core ) handling most of the Ball Handling duties, then we need 3D type Guys that can be very effective "Off the Ball" ( think DeMarre Carroll or Bruce Bowen type guy ).

                            I don't think that Solo is that guy....cuz I really want Solo and Miles to be the Wings off the bench. So, the question is....which can develop into the best 3D / Off the Ball type Player to fit the Starting Lineup?
                            Last edited by CableKC; 04-15-2015, 01:05 PM.
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                            • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                              Originally posted by CableKC View Post
                              If we are looking at drafting a Future Starter at the Wing spot.....with GH and PG13 ( hopefully part of the VERY LONG TERM core ) handling most of the Ball Handling duties, then we need 3D type Guys that can be very effective "Off the Ball" ( think DeMarre Carroll or Bruce Bowen type guy ).

                              I don't think that Solo is that guy....cuz I really want Solo and Miles to be the Wings off the bench. So, the question is....which can develop into the best 3D / Off the Ball type Player to fit the Starting Lineup?
                              If that is really what you are looking for you should hope that Stanley Johnson falls and that he can develop an NBA 3 pt game, or hope that Oubre reaches his potential, thats about the only shot I think we have at getting one of those guys in the draft.
                              Why so SERIOUS

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                              • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                                Looking at the short and long term needs, is there any Combo PG/SG that would be available between the 12 to 15 spot that could be considered the BPA over any of these Wings that we are talking about ( Booker / Hunter / Oubre / Dekker )?

                                I'm trying to figure out if there is a suitable replacement for Watson at the Backup PG spot that can be filled via the Draft.
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