Hollinger: What's wrong with Indiana Pacers?

[jeffg-body]

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5 games in and we are flipping out? Come on man. We might be struggling but giving out grades after five games?

[D-BONE]

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But GH was definitely a Bird guy and he got max. As much as I like him, I still think that's overpaying. I'm talking more about Simon's unwillingness to spend for the type of performer we need to truly take a step forward.

Now, whoever orchestrated the Collison trade is in serious jeopardy of looking downright incompetent. Then exacerbate the situation by getting a sub-standard replacement. I don't think we need to be looking for a SF add in Granger's absence. I think we should be looking for a better PG option and move PG to SF.

[AesopRockOn]

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The people talking about how great DC and Mayo would be on the Pacers are missing the vast difference between having Rick Carlisle as your head coach versus Frank Vogel.

[Pacergeek]

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Hate to drudge it up, but our handling of our now max FAs and the moves to "improve" the bench are looking more and more like Simon being unwilling to ante up for the type of moves/talent required for us to make a legit jump.

New bench guys are making our approach look like el - cheapo. That's only going away if they do something.

OJ Mayo is off to an outstanding start in Dallas. Would sure look great in a Pacer uniform this season

[Justin Tyme]

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I don't question how much money they spent as much as I question how they spent it.

Bingo, we have a winner!

[Justin Tyme]

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Hate to drudge it up, but our handling of our now max FAs and the moves to "improve" the bench are looking more and more like Simon being unwilling to ante up for the type of moves/talent required for us to make a legit jump.

New bench guys are making our approach look like el - cheapo. That's only going away if they do something.

Maybe Bird knew something, and frustration was too much for him to stay.

I've been critical of Bird the GM over the years, but I don't see Bird giving Hibbert a max contract.

When Walsh took over the helm, you can best bet both Hibbert and Hill's agents smiled from ear to ear, got $ signs in their eyes, and could hear the cash register go ching ching.

[MikeDC]

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I don't see how this year's moves indicate cheapness. I don't question how much money they spent as much as I question how they spent it.

[D-BONE]

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Hate to drudge it up, but our handling of our now max FAs and the moves to "improve" the bench are looking more and more like Simon being unwilling to ante up for the type of moves/talent required for us to make a legit jump.

New bench guys are making our approach look like el - cheapo. That's only going away if they do something.

[Sollozzo]

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So far, the Walsh/Pritchard combo gets an F- for their moves this summer. We traded a promising young point guard for an extremely mediocre/bad big man. We replaced that promising young point guard with a point guard in Augistin who isn't even Collison's league right now. Awful trade. Yeah there are those who say that that Collison is doing stuff in Dallas that he never did here, but how do we know he wouldn't have had similar results here this year? He is only in his fourth season and should logically be better than he was in previous years. Regardless, even if he was the exact same player he was last year, he'd still be better than Augistin.

Bird wouldn't have traded Collison for such a bad package. Collison was one of "his guys" and represented one of the best trades he made as GM here. Collison had two years worth of experience with our core of players and would have only developed more chemistry this year had he stayed.

[Pace Maker]

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Hollinger really hit the nail on the head imo

[Rogco]

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I'm a little surprised cause I thought that was a really good article. Do you ever watch the Pacers and long for a day where there is ball movement and penetration?

[rexnom]

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I hadn't even thought about a DC-Hill backcourt til just now. THANKS A LOT HOLLINGER.

Yeah, the DC-Mahinmi trade just looks awful.

[McKeyFan]

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Lance deserves more than faint praise. He's made some bonehead plays, but he's playing so much better than I would have thought to start the year. I think he'll only get better as the season moves along.

I would agree.

one can see Frank Vogel's dilemma. He doesn't have any offensive solutions hiding on his bench

I think Hollinger shouldn't count Lance out here either.

[Sparhawk]

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Lance deserves more than faint praise. He's made some bonehead plays, but he's playing so much better than I would have thought to start the year. I think he'll only get better as the season moves along.

I think it comes down to coaching. I don't know if Wells was trying to hint at that, but he never seems to address Vogel's coaching ability for possible reasons this team is playing so badly.

Other than the fallout, yesterday's game was the best the Pacers have played so far. It's a move in the right direction. Even if the offense doesn't get better, if they can reduce those turnovers and get to the line more, then we should start to be as good as last year. Just have to stop shooting long jump shots.

[Trader Joe]

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I hadn't even thought about a DC-Hill backcourt til just now. THANKS A LOT HOLLINGER.