Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

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  • billbradley

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    Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

    Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

    Tim Griffin

    SI.com’s Point Forward blog is counting down the top 100 players in the NBA during a course of daily reports over the past several days.

    No current Spurshave been ranked in numbers 70 through 100 that have been revealed so far. I would expect the Spurs will have three players in the final rankings — Tony Parker, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.

    But one Spurs player from last season’s roster has been listed so far. And George Hill’s ranking at No. 73 highlights the importance of the Spurs’ biggest off-season acquisitions.

    After three seasons with the Spurs, Hill was swapped to Indiana in a draft-day trade for a package of young players highlighted by No. 1 draft pick Kawhi Leonard.

    Hill’s two-way value is the major reason that SI.com has him ranked as highly as was. He was one of the most efficient players in the league and the Spurs’ best defensive weapon in the backcourt.

    He will get his big chance to become a key contributor and perhaps even a starter for the Pacers.

    The players the Spurs received in his trade — Davis Bertans, Erazem Lorbek and Leonard — are throwbacks to the way the Spurs used to play defense during their championship seasons. Their development will be critical in San Antonio’s hopes of duplicating last season’s regular-season success and improving on the disappointment of the early exit in the playoffs.

    Hill already has been ranked as a more valuable commodity than Indiana center Roy Hibbert, according to SI.com. He’s also ahead of others like Tony Allen, Raymond Felton, Brandon Roy, O.J. Mayo, Ty Lawson, Mike Conley and Jrue Holiday who have already been placed behind him. Hill is listed only one place behind 2010 No. 1 draft pick John Wall at No. 72 and two behind aging but productive Denver point guard Andre Miller at No. 71.

    Hill’s ability once earned him the moniker as “Gregg Popovich’s favorite player.” But after the disappointment of the playoffs last season, the Spurs clearly need to go in a different direction.

    The players they received in the Hill trade will help in the transformation.

    But the Spurs are taking a chance. And Hill’s value as one of the top guards in the NBA emphasizes that.

    I’m curious if Spurs Nation believes that Hill’s ranking on SI.com’s list is accurate.

    And do they believe that trading him for a collection of talented but unproven players like the Spurs received is a big gamble?
  • Kid Minneapolis
    Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
    • Apr 2004
    • 7351

    #2
    Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

    One thing I never understood was why Pop so easily gave up "his favorite player"?
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    • Kegboy
      How are you here?
      • Jan 2004
      • 12997

      #3
      Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

      Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis
      One thing I never understood was why Pop so easily gave up "his favorite player"?
      I don't think it was easy, we've supposedly been bugging them about Hill forever. The main thing people need to remember is SA is tapped out financially, and they probably felt they wouldn't be able to keep Hill after his rookie contract expired. We were the team most likely to give the most for Hill because of his local ties, and when Leonard dropped to us they relented.

      Of course, as the article points out, the Spurs implosion last season played a large part as well. They needed to change things up while Duncan still has some run left in him. And as much as they might like Hill, he's not someone you can build your franchise around.
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      • CableKC
        Member
        • Mar 2005
        • 36691

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        Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

        But GH didn't score 48 points against some ProAm Players in some random game that no one cares about....
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        • JBones19
          Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 409

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          Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

          That list by Zach Lowe had Roy at #87 and D.C. just outside of the top 100 and Hill at #73.

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          • PR07
            Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 7302

            #6
            Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

            The players the Spurs received in his trade — Davis Bertans, Erazem Lorbek and Leonard — are throwbacks to the way the Spurs used to play defense during their championship seasons.
            I'm confused by this, wouldn't you think Lorbek would be a poor defender?

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            • Kegboy
              How are you here?
              • Jan 2004
              • 12997

              #7
              Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

              Originally posted by PR07
              I'm confused by this, wouldn't you think Lorbek would be a poor defender?
              Well, he did play for Izzo for a year, so he's at least been exposed to hard defense.
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              • MillerTime
                FREE LANCE
                • May 2008
                • 7901

                #8
                Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

                I think there might have also been an issue where the Spurs felt that they wouldnt be able to re-sign Hill after his contract it up
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                • McKeyFan
                  Intuition over Integers
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 15183

                  #9
                  Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

                  Originally posted by Kegboy
                  I don't think it was easy, we've supposedly been bugging them about Hill forever. The main thing people need to remember is SA is tapped out financially, and they probably felt they wouldn't be able to keep Hill after his rookie contract expired. We were the team most likely to give the most for Hill because of his local ties, and when Leonard dropped to us they relented.

                  Of course, as the article points out, the Spurs implosion last season played a large part as well. They needed to change things up while Duncan still has some run left in him. And as much as they might like Hill, he's not someone you can build your franchise around.
                  First paragraph makes sense. The second one, not as much. Wouldn't they want an impact now player if they are trying to help Duncan in his last year or two?
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                  • McKeyFan
                    Intuition over Integers
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 15183

                    #10
                    Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

                    Personally, I continue to be surprised that San Antonio made this trade. Glad they did, but surprised.
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                    • King Tuts Tomb
                      Member
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 2419

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                      Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

                      Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis
                      One thing I never understood was why Pop so easily gave up "his favorite player"?
                      I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but after the trade I remember Popovich said it was the hardest deal he's had to make while working for the Spurs.

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                      • Constellations
                        Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1982

                        #12
                        Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

                        Originally posted by King Tuts Tomb
                        I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but after the trade I remember Popovich said it was the hardest deal he's had to make while working for the Spurs.
                        Though the Spurs are intrigued by Leonard, who at 6-foot-7 gives the Spurs added size at a position where they were small, Buford made clear the night was bittersweet.

                        “This might have been one of the most difficult nights in Spurs history, as long as we’ve been here,” Buford said. “To lose a player like George Hill, who has meant so much to our team, to our culture, to our locker room … it’s one of the most difficult decisions we’ve had to make.”


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                        • ballism
                          Over the pond
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 2427

                          #13
                          Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

                          I'm sure they were sorry to let him go.
                          But between resigning Hill or getting a decent big man next summer, big man is clearly the bigger need for San Antonio. They have a ton of backup guards. And while none of them is as good as Hill, Gary Neal isn't bad at all, and a few others are ok-ish.
                          On the other hand, McDyess is old. Blair and Bonner don't fit well with aging Duncan. And Splitter isn't enough.

                          They should have way over midlevel cap next year. Omer Asik will be there and he's a great fit. Chris Kaman will be there. Heck, Garnett will be there, how about one last united run by two former arch enemies?

                          Not to mention, Leonard should at least be a Corey Brewer type player right away. And they wanted Brewer badly last year but got outbid by Dallas.

                          It made a lot of sense for Spurs if the goal is to max out the last few chances with Duncan.

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                          • cdash
                            Whale Shepherd
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 32259

                            #14
                            Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

                            I'm not upset with this trade at all. I'm just pissed we won't get to see him in a Pacer uniform until the 2012-2013 season.

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                            • pacer4ever
                              Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 17172

                              #15
                              Re: Hill’s value underscores gamble for Spurs in Kawhi Leonard trade

                              Originally posted by PR07
                              I'm confused by this, wouldn't you think Lorbek would be a poor defender?
                              The writer is just counting on Leonard for elite defense IMO he just wrote it that way. He is the only NBA ready defender.

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