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  • Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

    Armed men break into home of Bobcats' Stephen Jackson
    By Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
    cwootson@charlotteobserver.com
    Posted: Thursday, Jul. 22, 2010
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    * Blog: They picked the wrong guy to victimize


    Three armed men broke into the south Charlotte home of Bobcats’ Stephen Jackson and held his wife at gunpoint before locking her in a bathroom and stealing valuables, police say.

    The home invasion robbery happened just after 7 a.m. Wednesday at the home on Leamington Lane – a gated community off Carmel Road.

    The robbery report doesn’t list the victims’ names or say what the robbers got away with, but a police source told the Observer that the victim was Jackson’s wife and that he wasn’t home at the time of the crime.

    Public records list Jackson and his wife, Renata, as occupants of the home. They’ve lived there since December 2009.

    Officers have not said why they believe their home was targeted. No one has been charged.

    The Charlotte Bobcats declined to comment.

    The $1.7 million tan stucco home with three garages is owned by former Bobcats guard Jason Richardson, who was traded to the Phoenix Suns during the 2008-2009 season.

    About a year later, the Bobcats acquired Jackson, a talented shooting guard who helped lead the team to its first playoff appearance last season.

    Professional athletes like Jackson have long maintained that they and their loved ones are sometimes targeted by criminals. A 2007 Boston Globe investigation estimated more than 90 percent of NBA and NFL players carried guns for protection.

    The 2007 slaying of Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, during what police called a random burglary at his home in south Florida, heightened feelings of vulnerability.

    In Charlotte in 2005, Charlotte Bobcats forward/center Melvin Ely and two other people were robbed and shot at outside a South Boulevard strip club. Ely ultimately recovered his $30,000 piece of jewelry from a pawn shop.

    Last year, Carolinas Panthers linebacker Thomas Davis reported to police that his 1975 Chevrolet Caprice Classic was taken from the front of his home in the Providence Plantation community of southeast Charlotte.

    Davis told police the purple Chevy, with distinctive wheels and other upgrades, is worth $136,000. It included a steering wheel that incorporated a football and a photo of Davis. Staff researcher Maria David contributed.
    Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...#ixzz0uTOjEdPB

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    Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

    I feel bad for his wife but, my first guess would be that jackson was getting cocky or flashing money in a club and just being a ****. then some guys go the idea of robbing him. To me it looks like jackson still hasn't grown up. I lived in Charlotte for a year or so and from living there I can tell ya it isn't the friendliest city.
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    • #3
      Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

      Originally posted by Pacers2012 View Post
      I feel bad for his wife but, my first guess would be that jackson was getting cocky or flashing money in a club and just being a ****. then some guys go the idea of robbing him. To me it looks like jackson still hasn't grown up. I lived in Charlotte for a year or so and from living there I can tell ya it isn't the friendliest city.
      You're making an awfully large assumption.

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      • #4
        Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

        What would it even matter if he was being a jerk about being rich? The mentality of so many people on this board is just disgusting when it comes to these things. Dozens of times I've seen people express, "he brought it on himself," whenever criminals strike athletes.

        Guess what - there is no justification for violent crime that does not involve immediate self defense. No one deserves it. Ever. Stop being ignorant

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        , unless you deserve someone punching you out for being such.

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        • #5
          Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

          His wife gets robbed at gunpoint = Jackson's a ****

          This math needs checked.

          Jackson's not a bad guy. He has a temper. He has some potentially bad connections.
          Last edited by Ozwalt72; 07-23-2010, 02:30 AM. Reason: I hate names. And their expletive counter-part
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          • #6
            Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

            Originally posted by Dece View Post
            What would it even matter if he was being a jerk about being rich? The mentality of so many people on this board is just disgusting when it comes to these things. Dozens of times I've seen people express, "he brought it on himself," whenever criminals strike athletes.

            Guess what - there is no justification for violent crime that does not involve immediate self defense. No one deserves it. Ever. Stop being ignorant jerkoffs, unless you deserve someone punching you out for being such.
            haha thanks for the laugh. some people do bring things on themselves. not just athletes. Im talking about jackson the person not jackson the athlete. my assumption has nothing to do with him as an athlete.

            there is not justification for someone robbing anyone. just like there was no justification for jackson shooting at a car that side swipped him outside a club in 2006. "oh no i got side swipped by a car. i should pull out my gun an possibly kill someone not even involved" thats stephen jackson. you cant teach old dogs new tricks. dude has always acted like a thug
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            • #7
              Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

              Looks like that midget (Fingers?) from the Club Rio parking lot finally caught up w/ Jax & wanted the cash for the Tin-man's pot (allegedly).....

              Ironic it happened on "Carmel Road".
              What are the chances some IN Northsider, drunk & on vacation in NC, still pissed he got stuck w/ suite tickets after the brawl thought "Carmel Road" was "home" & just stumbled onto Jax's home by accident & desided to "get reimbursed"?
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              • #8
                Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

                Just speculating but could have been 'BILL COLLECTORS' from the local mafia or just professional burglars. Since they didn't hurt his wife, they obviously weren't local street thugs who would have raped and beat her. Glad they only lost possessions and valuables. Hopefully, this is the end of it.

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                • #9
                  Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

                  As much as I dislike Stephen Jackson, this was still a violent crime commited by clearly
                  dangerous criminals. I hope they are caught and sent to prison for a long long time.
                  Last edited by RamBo_Lamar; 07-23-2010, 08:27 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

                    Anyone else almost waiting to see a headline about 3 men who were allegedly killed by men linked to Stephen Jackson (this headline is next to a pic of Jackson shrugging in my mind)? I'm not saying it will happen,but I wouldn't be surprised if we see some "vigilante justice".
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                    • #11
                      Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

                      Originally posted by Pacers2012 View Post
                      haha thanks for the laugh. some people do bring things on themselves. not just athletes. Im talking about jackson the person not jackson the athlete. my assumption has nothing to do with him as an athlete.

                      there is not justification for someone robbing anyone. just like there was no justification for jackson shooting at a car that side swipped him outside a club in 2006. "oh no i got side swipped by a car. i should pull out my gun an possibly kill someone not even involved" thats stephen jackson. you cant teach old dogs new tricks. dude has always acted like a thug
                      Actually, the real piece of work is his wife. If she'd ever shown more interest in anything other than thugs, this wouldn't have happened. Guess she brought it on herself.
                      Last edited by NapTonius Monk; 07-23-2010, 09:32 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

                        Time to move or get a lot more security.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

                          It might not have been random

                          http://www.wsoctv.com/news/24358996/detail.html

                          Bobcats Player’s Home, Held Wife At Gunpoint
                          Posted: 6:15 pm EDT July 22, 2010
                          Updated: 9:17 am EDT July 23, 2010

                          CHARLOTTE, N.C. --

                          Detectives in Charlotte are investigating a home invasion at the home of one of the Charlotte Bobcats.

                          Three masked men broke into Stephen Jackson’s home early Wednesday morning, police said. Officers said Jackson was not at home, but his wife was.

                          According to a police report, the men held her at gunpoint while they took valuables from the home, including several Louis Vuitton wallets, jewelry, a stun gun and a 9 millimeter handgun.

                          The suspects then locked her in a bathroom, police said.

                          The Jacksons live in a gated community off Carmel Road in south Charlotte. Police said they are not sure how the suspects got into the neighborhood.

                          They are also not sure whether the robbers specifically targeted Jackson.

                          Sources told Eyewitness News that there are indications that the attack may not have been random, but detectives aren't commenting on the matter.

                          A spokesman for the Bobcats said he was not aware of the incident and would not comment on what is a private matter.

                          Eyewitness News could not reach Jackson for comment.

                          Copyright 2010 by WSOCTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

                            Holy ****. I hope they're caught.

                            Also, the "he brought it on himself" **** is embarrassing. This forum is better than that.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Armed Men break into Stephen Jackson's home

                              Maybe some gang members felt Jackson owed them...

                              Didn't Jackson in the past embrace gang connections from his past?

                              But even that random speculation is taking a big leap based on what little we know.
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