I do not want to see this become a habit

[ABADays]

Re: I do not want to see this become a habit

Not that this is the thread for it, but I think the idea that Danny is "falling to Earth" is nonsense. The guy is tired and playing on a bum leg. He shouldn't be playing. The fact that he's looked good during any part of this stretch at all is impressive.

I hope the knee is the reason I've seen a lot of guys turning the corner on him lately.

[aceace]

Re: I do not want to see this become a habit

You wait for a dead ball situation to say something. You don't neglect your on-court responsibilities to complain.

LeBron,Kobe none of the others wait for a dead ball. It's kinda picky to point out and belittle him when this has never been a problem.

[count55]

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I'm thinking Sheed was the real culprit.

Nope.

It was Jalen.

[Anthem]

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I see it as the losing final starting to wear on him a little.

Agreed.

[McKeyFan]

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He isn't JO or Jalen (who was the bad influence on JO).

I'm thinking Sheed was the real culprit.

[MillerTime]

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Twice tonight versus the Bucks I have seen Danny fail to get back on defense before first complaining to an official.

The first instance delayed him "only" about one second, but the second instance (which just happed moments before I came on PD to type this) was for at least 3 seconds, and that's just plain Jermaine O'Neal/Stephen Jackson style garbage right there.

I really, really hope Danny knocks this crap off quickly. My opinion of him will permanently be down a notch if this becomes a new routine of his.

Between this and his "kicking incident" after the Wizards game, color me moderately concerned about the direction he seems to be heading in. I hope this all-star appearance isn't going to his head. He's been the ultimate good guy/trooper/ideal lead guy up until now. I'd sincerely hate to see him start to go to a "darker" place now that he's seeing individual success.

Ive started to notice this too. I really hope Granger isnt getting 'cocky' now. Hes been a good kid thus far, we dont need him to turn out to be a cancer. The positive about this is that Granger is taking EACH game to heart and wants to win game, but he needs to learn that complaining to refs for a call during the game is only going to hurt the team because we'll be one man short on defense

[Trader Joe]

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I understand everyone's concern from this, but I think it's way too hard to call one way or the other. Danny has shown us absolutely nothing to indicate this sort of personality before. Granted JO didn't either til his last few years here, but Danny just seems too genuine. If he complains to the refs every once in a long while, I really don't care. All really good players will do that from time to time. IF it becomes something he is doing 10-15 times a game, then we have an issue.

As far as falling back to Earth, The season Danny has had so far is absurd and so far above any expectation we could have had for him. He hasn't been 100% for a while and while I appreciate the fact that he wants to play in the All Star game and probably more importantly get to wear the jersey, I hope the coaching staff at the game will only play him 5 minutes or so.

[count55]

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My take is that Danny is who we think he is. He isn't JO or Jalen (who was the bad influence on JO). The frustration got to him a bit. He made a mistake. He probably knows it, and was probably told all about it

[SoupIsGood]

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So, whose call is it, when it comes to whether he plays or not? Because when you're going 1-11, that "himself before the team" element does start to creep back into the discussion... (keep in mind the last game I saw was, I think, the PHX game. I'm just asking Q's, seeing how you guys think.)

[Hicks]

Re: I do not want to see this become a habit

Seconded.

How are you supposed to react when the refs mess up and miss calls?

Continually?

You wait for a dead ball situation to say something. You don't neglect your on-court responsibilities to complain.

[MyFavMartin]

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The 2nd time was a foul that should have been called. Danny got nailed. I understand that, didn't see the first one. This has never been a habit, so your over reacting right now. Maybe he sees how many calls LeBron gets.

Seconded.

How are you supposed to react when the refs mess up and miss calls?

Continually?

[Hicks]

Re: I do not want to see this become a habit

Not that this is the thread for it, but I think the idea that Danny is "falling to Earth" is nonsense. The guy is tired and playing on a bum leg. He shouldn't be playing. The fact that he's looked good during any part of this stretch at all is impressive.

[SoupIsGood]

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I'd say a bit of both.

[Hicks]

Re: I do not want to see this become a habit

This.

I don't particularly see much to worry about.

I don't put the two together like a few of you seem to. I can understand the kicking bit being about frustration over all of the losing, but I cannot understand it being the reason for what I'm seeing tonight.

When I see a player stopping to complain to the ref at the expense of getting back on defense, I see someone thinking about himself instead of his team, and in effect, putting himself before the team. I have a problem with that.

Keep in mind, I love Danny Granger. I do not like typing any of this even remotely. I'm just concerned and in the short term I am disappointed.

[BRushWithDeath]

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The ESPN boxscore says Danny is one for freakin' eleven? I think we've got more to worry about. I haven't been able to watch a game in a while, but I hope this really is just the injury, and not him falling down to earth a bit.

I'd say a bit of both.