The Rules of Pacers Digest

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Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on

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Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

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    Pacemakers? Cardiac Kids? You decide

    By Conrad Brunner at

    With a handful of breathtaking victories already and the season not yet halfway complete, these Pacers have earned something special. And since I don't have any particularly constructive skills other than thinking up stuff to type as fast as I can, this is the best I can do: let's come up with a nickname.

    Their stunning 113-110 victory in Phoenix Wednesday marked the 11th game this season they've played decided by three points or less. They've won five of those, each on their final possession.

    So what to dub these thrillseekers?

    Cardiac Kids is too easy, been done too many times. Seems like every team that wins a couple of close games starts calling itself that, or some form of it.

    To me, this one's a natural: The Pacemakers.

    Because if they keep this up, I'm going to need one.

    If you've got something better, and odds are you do, please post it as a comment at the end of this blog. After a few days we'll put the nominations together and have some kind of vote or something. Sounds official, right?

    Just in case you need your memory refreshed, what follows is a list that should explain why I'm making this particular fuss.

    Nov. 26 at Houston: Pacers 91, Rockets 90

    The Pacers wiped out a 10-point fourth-quarter deficit and beat the Rockets when Danny Granger tipped in his own miss with 13 seconds left. Troy Murphy had a big game from the 3-point line to help spark the comeback.

    Trailing 90-89, Granger drove and his first shot bounced off the back rim but he tipped-in the game-winner. The Rockets took a timeout and worked the ball to Yao Ming, who missed in traffic. Ron Artest grabbed the rebound but couldn't get a quality shot in the scramble and his desperation fadeaway wasn't close.

    Dec. 2 at Conseco Fieldhouse: Pacers 118, Lakers 117

    Another tip-in, this time by Troy Murphy, completed another comeback and delivered a shocking victory over the Lakers. The Pacers thus became the first team in the NBA this season to beat both of the reigning NBA Finalists.

    The Lakers brought a seven-game winning streak into the game and scored the final 17 points of the third quarter to take a 101-86 lead. But Granger and Murphy teamed up again and the defense held the Lakers to 16 points in the final period.

    Kobe Bryant's long jumper gave the Lakers a 117-116 lead but missed a jumper on the Lakers' next possession that left the door open. The Pacers called a timeout and got the ball to Marquis Daniels, who got an open look on a baseline drive but missed the shot. It was tipped around before Murphy batted it toward the hoop. It hit both sides of the rim, rose into the air and dropped through.

    Dec. 20 at Philadelphia: Pacers 95, Sixers 94

    T.J. Ford was the hero this time, hitting a 15-footer with 3.9 seconds left to cap a 25-point game and give the Pacers another improbable one-point win.

    Indiana played without Granger, Murphy and Daniels, who all were out with viral infections.

    The Pacers rallied from an 88-83 deficit in the final three minutes with an 8-1 run, taking a 91-89 lead with 1:30 left on Jeff Foster's 3-point play. Andre Iguodala rebounded his own miss and after a turnover by Jarrett Jack, Lou Williams drove for a dunk that put the Sixers in front 94-93 with 17 seconds left.

    After working the clock, Ford pulled up in the key for the game-winner.

    The Sixers had the last shot but Iguodala missed a tough lefty drive as time expired.

    Jan. 2 at New York: Pacers 105, Knicks 103

    Jack atoned for his potentially costly turnover in Philly by hitting a long jumper with nine-tenths of a second remaining to beat the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. The shot capped a 29-point night by Jack, who scored the Pacers' final six points and eight of 10 as they wiped out a 98-93 deficit in the final three minutes.

    The victory snapped a four-game losing streak and was particularly sweet for Jack, whose game-winner came over Knicks guard Chris Duhon, his cousin.

    The Pacers looked to be in good shape when Jack drove to put them up 103-100 with 24 seconds left. But Murphy fouled a driving Wilson Chandler, who converted the tying three-point play with 12 seconds to go. After Jack's big shot, the Knicks called a timeout and worked an inbounds play to Nate Robinson, who missed a long, off-balance 3-pointer.

    Jan. 7 at Phoenix: Pacers 113, Suns 110

    With nine-tenths of a second remaining – the same amount of time the Knicks had the previous week – Pacers Coach Jim O'Brien set up an inbounds play that resulted in a defensive switch by Phoenix that left Granger open at the top of the arc, guarded by a much smaller defender, Steve Nash.

    Granger's long try splashed just as the horn sounded and the Pacers had yet another heart-stopping victory. Granger scored 37 and became the first Pacers NBA player ever to score at least 35 in three consecutive games.

    “Coach drew up a great play," Granger said. "We ran some people around and I ran away and I popped to the top and got a look. When I got that open look, I let it go. I’m always confident it’s going in the hole. We’re just trying to get as many wins as possible because we’re better than our record shows."

    The Pacers led throughout until Phoenix took its only lead, 110-108, on Leandro Barbosa's 30-pointer with 45 seconds left. Granger tied it with a jumper with 34 seconds to go and the Suns missed two shots on their last possession, leaving the door cracked, if not completely open, for Granger to push through.

    "My last game winning shot," Granger said, "I think was in college."

    In fact, it was less than two months ago.


    I thought this was fun, good read too.

    Please let me know if I didn't post it right, though. I tried to have the byline etc.

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    Re: Nickname the Pacers

    Originally posted by Conrad/Granger
    "My last game winning shot," Granger said, "I think was in college."

    In fact, it was less than two months ago.
    It seems like the players have trouble remembering this one.

    I guess it's because the game didn't end with the posession in our hands.


    • #3
      Re: Nickname the Pacers

      Oh man, I thought this was going to be a thread where we all tried to give nicknames to individual players. I was kind of dissapointed to find an actual article.
      "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

      - Salman Rushdie


      • #4
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        I came in here to post Danny "Danger" Granger.


        • #5
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          Originally posted by mellifluous View Post
          Oh man, I thought this was going to be a thread where we all tried to give nicknames to individual players. I was kind of dissapointed to find an actual article.
          me too.


          • #6
            Re: Nickname the Pacers

            Well we still can nickname them. I'll start.

            Rasho "The Savvy Sloth" Nesterovic.


            • #7
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              Travis "I am not in High School" Diener.


              • #8
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                Jarrett "Cuba Gooding Jr." Jack


                • #9
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                  Jamal "The Eternal Waiver" Tinsley
                  Mike "Got D?" Dunleavy
                  TJ "Lil Me" Ford
                  Jarret "5th Gear" Jack
                  Travis "The Mobile" Diener
                  Jeff "Hustling Heart" Foster
                  Roy "7 foot Wall" Hibbert
                  Brandon "Shoot em Up" Rush
                  Stephen "The Verticle" Graham
                  Danny "Danger" Granger
                  Maceo "Big City" Baston
                  Troy "Dropkick" Murphy

                  if I forgot anyone I apologize
                  JOB is a silly man


                  • #10
                    Re: Nickname the Pacers

                    I wish Granger had a unique nickname like "The Judge" or something.


                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Speed View Post
                      Well we still can nickname them. I'll start.

                      Rasho "The Savvy Sloth" Nesterovic.
                      I love it.
                      "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

                      - Salman Rushdie


                      • #12
                        Re: Nickname the Pacers

                        Originally posted by Speed View Post
                        I wish Granger had a unique nickname like "The Judge" or something.
                        How about "The Engineer"?

                        Or you could go with something like "Harvard". I like the idea of his nickname being tied to his propensity for academic success.

                        I suppose something like "The Steal" would be appropriate in terms of both his draft position and his contract extension.
                        "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

                        - Salman Rushdie


                        • #13
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                          Danny 'Pacing Ranger' Granger


                          • #14
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                            RasH*E NesteroB**CH


                            • #15
                              Re: Nickname the Pacers

                              Originally posted by duke dynamite View Post
                              Jarrett "Cuba Gooding Jr." Jack
                              "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference