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  • MillerTime
    FREE LANCE
    • May 2008
    • 7566

    Murphy's Breakout Season?

    How many of you guys think Murphy will actually break out next season? Not want him to, but actually think he will?

    Personally, under JOBs system, I think he will. We finally have a PG (and Backup PG) that can get into the lanes and cause the defense to collapse and then have the ability to dish it out to guys that can hit the long range jumper, with Murphy being one of them.

    I loved how Murphy playing in his earlier days in GS, I dont know what happened to him a few seasons after, he just fell off. He averaged 14 ppg and 10 rpg at one point, then just died down. Thats what we need from him, someone who can go after the rounds fearlessly.

    This should be a nice year from Murphy...
    "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


  • duke dynamite
    #IndyForever
    • Dec 2006
    • 13377

    #2
    Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

    Someone has been paying attention to my posts...

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    • Anthem
      White and Nerdy
      • Jan 2004
      • 24549

      #3
      Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

      Not me. If he matches his post-ASB production I'll be thrilled. Hard to expect more than that from him.
      This space for rent.

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      • MillerTime
        FREE LANCE
        • May 2008
        • 7566

        #4
        Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

        Originally posted by Anthem
        Not me. If he matches his post-ASB production I'll be thrilled. Hard to expect more than that from him.
        I just want him to get back to how he was when he averaged a double double back in GS. He was killing it that season. He was such a hard matchup. He loved stepping outside and shooting and normal PFs dont like being so far from the basketb
        "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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        • BlueNGold
          Banned
          • Aug 2005
          • 32247

          #5
          Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

          Y'all gonna see it....lol.

          Sorry, I'm not a believer. He first needs to become remotely decent at defending the post. Maybe stop someone from either going over, around or through him. He really is that bad. Remember, he is a POWER Forward. He looks pretty around the 3pt line, but the other half of the time it is not pretty.

          Actually, I would prefer we stick Foster out there and let MDJ and Granger shoot treys, because they both shoot for a higher pct. anyway.

          Troy's a nice guy, even if he is a little strange with the tanning fetish, but I simply do not want him as a starting PF. Not in the NBA.

          So, the answer is NO.

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          • d_c
            Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 3736

            #6
            Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

            Originally posted by MillerTime
            I just want him to get back to how he was when he averaged a double double back in GS. He was killing it that season. He was such a hard matchup. He loved stepping outside and shooting and normal PFs dont like being so far from the basketb
            Murphy never "killed it" in GS. Closest he came to that was his 2nd year. That was his best as a pro.

            People wanted him shipped out of town during his double double days following that because he was a PF shooting ~42%, missing point blank shots and not playing defense.

            I mean Chris Mullin spent an entire summer trying to trade Murphy right AFTER he had just completed 2 consecutive years averaging a double double for Al Harrington, a guy who has NEVER averaged a double double.

            The reason the W's traded Murphy had nothing to do with his inability to average a double double, because he was obviously able to do that.

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            • maragin
              Tyrant
              • Nov 2006
              • 1216

              #7
              Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

              What would define a breakout season for Murphy, statistically? I'd be interested to hear what people would set as a baseline.

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              • BKK
                soul brother #1
                • Mar 2008
                • 967

                #8
                Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

                if he reached 14 and 8 AND does not make us lose games because of his poor defense I'll be satisified

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                • MillerTime
                  FREE LANCE
                  • May 2008
                  • 7566

                  #9
                  Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

                  Originally posted by maragin
                  What would define a breakout season for Murphy, statistically? I'd be interested to hear what people would set as a baseline.
                  If he could get back to the days where he was averaging 14ppg and 10rpg I would be very happy with him. But his defense needs to pick up also
                  "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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                  • dohman
                    Remember #31
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1363

                    #10
                    Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

                    I do not have a problem with him shooting threes if he can hit them at 40 percent like he has averaged in his career.

                    Like eveyone said he needs to put on about 10 pounds of lean muscle and start to play hard PHYSICAL defense. I hate how soft he is and how he cannot put a body on anyone. I am interested to see the high low with him and hibbert later in the season though.

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                    • Hicks
                      Member
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 53148

                      #11
                      Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

                      A breakout year for him would be doing what he did at the end of last season for the entire season, and showing us something more on D.

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                      • Putnam
                        Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 8734

                        #12
                        Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

                        Originally posted by MillerTime
                        How many of you guys think Murphy will actually break out next season? Personally, under JOBs system, I think he will.
                        Originally posted by maragin
                        What would define a breakout season for Murphy, statistically?
                        Originally posted by MillerTime
                        If he could get back to the days where he was averaging 14ppg and 10rpg I would be very happy with him.

                        So, you are defining a "breakout season" as returning to the level of play Murphy has already showed in 04-05 and 05-06?

                        That is silly.


                        Anyway, no, I don't think Murphy is going to break out this season. He is a pretty consistent player, and his output totals are due to his minutes. The years he averaged 14 points and 10 rebounds were years he played more minutes. His output per 48 hasn't changed much.

                        He played 28 minutes last year, and he's not going to get much more this year than last.
                        And I won't be here to see the day
                        It all dries up and blows away
                        I'd hang around just to see
                        But they never had much use for me
                        In Levelland. (James McMurtry)

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                        • LG33
                          Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 21082

                          #13
                          Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

                          Originally posted by Hicks
                          A breakout year for him would be doing what he did at the end of last season for the entire season, and showing us something more on D.
                          Agreed. He didn't settle for jump shots as much towards the end, even putting in some slow but effective drives to the basket.

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                          • imawhat
                            Bring Back David West
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10740

                            #14
                            Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

                            Originally posted by Putnam
                            He played 28 minutes last year, and he's not going to get much more this year than last.

                            I'm pretty sure he will. Larry said he could play 35 min/game this year. I expect him to be somewhere between the two numbers, but he's needed more this year because of the lack of offense in the post (for which Troy will not provide, but he will provide scoring at the 4). Remember, he "broke out" later in the year while Jermaine sat out.

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                            • Putnam
                              Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 8734

                              #15
                              Re: Murphy's Breakout Season?

                              Originally posted by imawhat
                              I'm pretty sure he will. Larry said he could play 35 min/game this year. I expect him to be somewhere between the two numbers, but he's needed more this year because of the lack of offense in the post (for which Troy will not provide, but he will provide scoring at the 4). Remember, he "broke out" later in the year while Jermaine sat out.

                              You may be right about the minutes. I don't know. I took the comment about him getting 35 minutes per game the same way I took O'Brien's statement that McRoberts is the Pacers most athletic big man. But it may happen that way for Murphy.

                              I still resist use of the term "break out" to describe rise back up to a level he's already attained.

                              And it doesn't seem likely that the Pacers' offense will rely on the power forward position as much this year as it has in the past, so Murphy's attempts probably won't increase. We'll see.
                              And I won't be here to see the day
                              It all dries up and blows away
                              I'd hang around just to see
                              But they never had much use for me
                              In Levelland. (James McMurtry)

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