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  • Hulk54
    Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 20

    Brand is now Unrestricted

    Elton Brand is officially an unrestricted free agent. Let the deals begin!!
  • Anthem
    White and Nerdy
    • Jan 2004
    • 24549

    #2
    Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

    Tinsley/Foster/Shawne/pick in a sign-and-trade? Come on Clipperland, you know you wanna!






    And then I woke up. Still, had to get that in.
    Last edited by Anthem; 07-01-2008, 12:52 AM.
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    • Anthem
      White and Nerdy
      • Jan 2004
      • 24549

      #3
      Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

      Ok, I just keep thinking about how nice it would be to get Elton Brand in a Pacers uni.

      What's he expected to fetch on the open market? Both in terms of dollars and in terms of what the Clips are likely to take back in a trade.

      Just for kicks:

      Rasho - Hibbert
      Brand - Murphy
      Granger - Graham
      Dunleavy - Rush
      Ford - Jack

      That's a playoff team, right there. And yes I know the Clips wouldn't take back Tinsley. Still, I can dream.
      Last edited by Anthem; 07-01-2008, 12:54 AM.
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      • dohman
        Remember #31
        • Nov 2006
        • 1363

        #4
        Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

        We can all wish. If we were able to land him we would be a mid 50 win a season team for sure. We would have 2 Big centers. A great SF and a very good back court.




        please dont make me wake up!

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        • Hicks
          Member
          • Jun 2004
          • 53148

          #5
          Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

          I think he's headed to Miami, but you never know, seeing as how they have Marion and Beasley right now. Of course, a sign and trade takes care of that.

          If they did a sign and trade with us, I'd offer Dunleavy and Foster.

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          • Tyrion
            Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 302

            #6
            Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

            I would offer Danny and Foster if they would do a S&T with us, and that is likely the best they will be offered. Dunleavy and Shawne can play sf, and Dun, Rush, and Rush can split sg. That's a top 4 team in the east.

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            • Aw Heck
              Sure.
              • Feb 2004
              • 2639

              #7
              Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

              Yes, Anthem, unfortunately I think you're dreaming. But I'm dreaming right there with you.

              I don't see any scenario in which Brand winds up here in Indy, outside of Brand demanding a trade here (keep dreaming).

              If Brand still wants to be a movie producer, I would think he would like to remain in California, or at least a team on the west coast.

              But if Bird ended up getting Brand without giving up too much, then I think he's frontrunner for Executive of the Year. (Keep dreaming...)

              I think the main reason Brand is opting out is because he's 29. If he waited another year, he might not get a contract that is as long term as he'd like. Another reason he'd opt out is the off chance that he could escape the Clippers. But I think he's mainly looking for a long contract.
              Last edited by Aw Heck; 07-01-2008, 01:24 AM.

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              • Isaac
                Member
                • Apr 2005
                • 3249

                #8
                Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

                Originally posted by Anthem
                Ok, I just keep thinking about how nice it would be to get Elton Brand in a Pacers uni.

                What's he expected to fetch on the open market? Both in terms of dollars and in terms of what the Clips are likely to take back in a trade.

                Just for kicks:

                Rasho - Hibbert
                Brand - Murphy
                Granger - Graham
                Dunleavy - Rush
                Ford - Jack

                That's a playoff team, right there. And yes I know the Clips wouldn't take back Tinsley. Still, I can dream.
                I honestly think that team would contend to go to the finals in the East. There is a lot of depth, defense and versatile scoring.

                I would bet my house, car, bank account and job on the Pacers not getting Brand though.

                However, I would be a quite happy bum if it happened.

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                • Hulk54
                  Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 20

                  #9
                  Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

                  With Shaun Livington being released by
                  LAC and Corey Maggette probably leaving
                  town, this is what their team looks
                  like without those two and Brand.


                  Brevin Knight/Mobley
                  Eric Gordon
                  Al Thorton/ Tim Thomas
                  Josh Powell
                  Kaman




                  So, what do we have that will fit their needs?
                  They definitely need guard help, small
                  forward help badly, and post help. Well
                  that pretty much looks like everything.
                  They will be looking for something good
                  for Brand though. As much as we all
                  would LOVE to give them Tinsley and
                  Williams they may be looking for more
                  than that. I am really a fan of
                  Dunleavy and his consistency. But, is
                  this worth it?


                  Indiana Gets
                  -Elton Brand

                  L.A. Clippers Gets
                  -Mike Dunleavy
                  -Marquis Daniels



                  New line ups for both


                  Ford/Jack
                  B-Rush/Graham
                  Granger/Williams
                  Brand/Murphy
                  Hibbert/Foster/Rasho (any of these 3 to start)





                  Brevin Knight/Mobley
                  Eric Gordon/Daniels
                  Dunleavy/Tim Thomas
                  Josh Powell/Al Thorton
                  Kaman


                  I think this helps both teams.
                  They can worry about their Power Forward problem with whatever they
                  might get from Maggette.

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                  • duke dynamite
                    #IndyForever
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 13377

                    #10
                    Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

                    Originally posted by Anthem
                    Ok, I just keep thinking about how nice it would be to get Elton Brand in a Pacers uni.

                    What's he expected to fetch on the open market? Both in terms of dollars and in terms of what the Clips are likely to take back in a trade.

                    Just for kicks:

                    Rasho - Hibbert
                    Brand - Murphy
                    Granger - Graham
                    Dunleavy - Rush
                    Ford - Jack

                    That's a playoff team, right there. And yes I know the Clips wouldn't take back Tinsley. Still, I can dream.
                    Wow, that is a playoff team.

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                    • Hulk54
                      Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 20

                      #11
                      Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

                      Here is one more.....


                      Indiana gets
                      -Elton Brand

                      LAC gets
                      -Dunleavy
                      -Foster

                      Line ups...

                      ford/jack
                      b-rush/graham
                      granger/williams
                      brand/murphy
                      hibbert/rasho


                      knight/mobley
                      eric gordon
                      dunleavy/tim thomas
                      foster/ al thorton
                      kaman/ josh powell


                      this probably helps them more and doesn't affect us too much. I would hate to see both Dun and Foster go, but this would make for a better team. You have to make those tough decision Bird.

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                      • duke dynamite
                        #IndyForever
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 13377

                        #12
                        Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

                        Originally posted by Hulk54
                        With Shaun Livington being released by
                        LAC and Corey Maggette probably leaving
                        town, this is what their team looks
                        like without those two and Brand.


                        Brevin Knight/Mobley
                        Eric Gordon
                        Al Thorton/ Tim Thomas
                        Josh Powell
                        Kaman




                        So, what do we have that will fit their needs?
                        They definitely need guard help, small
                        forward help badly, and post help. Well
                        that pretty much looks like everything.
                        They will be looking for something good
                        for Brand though. As much as we all
                        would LOVE to give them Tinsley and
                        Williams they may be looking for more
                        than that. I am really a fan of
                        Dunleavy and his consistency. But, is
                        this worth it?


                        Indiana Gets
                        -Elton Brand

                        L.A. Clippers Gets
                        -Mike Dunleavy
                        -Marquis Daniels



                        New line ups for both


                        Ford/Jack
                        B-Rush/Graham
                        Granger/Williams
                        Brand/Murphy
                        Hibbert/Foster/Rasho (any of these 3 to start)





                        Brevin Knight/Mobley
                        Eric Gordon/Daniels
                        Dunleavy/Tim Thomas
                        Josh Powell/Al Thorton
                        Kaman


                        I think this helps both teams.
                        They can worry about their Power Forward problem with whatever they
                        might get from Maggette.
                        Larry Bird is not letting go of Dun Dun. Three reasons:

                        1. His contract is too big, even in Clippers' standards.
                        2. He will not play for his dad.
                        3. LB said he is not trading Mike.

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                        • Kuq_e_Zi91
                          Thank you, Danny.
                          • May 2008
                          • 2562

                          #13
                          Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

                          They need a PG. Why not throw in Tinsley with Williams, Foster, and Marquis.
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                          • Hulk54
                            Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 20

                            #14
                            Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

                            Originally posted by tbabyy924
                            They need a PG. Why not throw in Tinsley with Williams, Foster, and Marquis.
                            I am great with this. If LAC is.

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                            • Jose Slaughter
                              Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 5376

                              #15
                              Re: Brand is now Unrestricted

                              How about this one.

                              Marquis Daniels -- 6,860,000
                              Jeff Foster ------ 6,175,000

                              thats 13,035,000

                              throw in a future #1 & do a sign & trade where Brand starts around 14, give or take.

                              I guess we could even add Williams, at just over 1.5 I think Larry could live without him.

                              The Clippers get a solid front court player, a guy that can play the 1, 2 & 3, major cap room next summer, plus a future #1.... in the mid to late 20's by my guess.

                              Brand gets to be the final piece to a very promising team as well as get the money he most likely wants.

                              Nesterovic - Hibbert
                              Brand - Murphy - Baston
                              Granger - Dunleavy
                              Rush - Graham
                              Ford - Jack - Diener

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