Mathurin is the future of this team, he has to start
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I agree that Mathurin's first quarter defense in that Philly game was abysmal, unfortunately. My issue though is Rick holding only certain players accountable. Tyrese, Andrew and co. can do whatever the **** they want. Ben or Jarace make a couple of mistakes (still literally two of the youngest guys on the team) and it's the end of the world. That postseason success last year made Rick think we're better than we are and he's more or less abandoned the idea of development, which was never really his strong suit anyway.Comment
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I agree that Mathurin's first quarter defense in that Philly game was abysmal, unfortunately. My issue though is Rick holding only certain players accountable. Tyrese, Andrew and co. can do whatever the **** they want. Ben or Jarace make a couple of mistakes (still literally two of the youngest guys on the team) and it's the end of the world. That postseason success last year made Rick think we're better than we are and he's more or less abandoned the idea of development, which was never really his strong suit anyway.Originally posted by Piston PrinceBobcat fans telling us to cheer up = epic fail season👍 3😂 1Comment
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I think one of the biggest issues with Rick is that he has a specific style of play he prefers, and if a player doesn’t fit that mold, they often end up in his "dog house." He has a track record of clashing with certain players, like Luka, Rondo, and Dennis Smith Jr. There’s even an article out there about Jalen Brunson looking forward to playing against the Pacers because Rick Carlisle is coaching us.
What frustrates me most about Benn not playing is that he’s one of our most talented scorers. Instead of starting him at the 2, we’re starting Nembhard, a scrappy but undersized shooting guard who would be better as a backup point guard. Then there’s Nesmith, who’s more of a hustle guy but doesn’t bring great defense. It feels inconsistent that Benn is held accountable for his defense, but Hali isn’t scrutinized in the same way. And with our team’s poor rebounding, why is Benn benched for that when players like Myles stay in despite his bad rebounding performances? Myles should have been pulled when he couldn't grab the rebound in front of him yesterday and ultimately it led to him having to foul the Orlando big.
There’s this perception that our team is deep, but in reality, we’re not as deep as we’re made out to be. I know it’s early in the season, and Rick is still working on rotations, but if he can’t find a way to get Mathurin 25-30 minutes a game, then he might need to go.Comment
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I think one of the biggest issues with Rick is that he has a specific style of play he prefers, and if a player doesn’t fit that mold, they often end up in his "dog house." He has a track record of clashing with certain players, like Luka, Rondo, and Dennis Smith Jr. There’s even an article out there about Jalen Brunson looking forward to playing against the Pacers because Rick Carlisle is coaching us.
What frustrates me most about Benn not playing is that he’s one of our most talented scorers. Instead of starting him at the 2, we’re starting Nembhard, a scrappy but undersized shooting guard who would be better as a backup point guard. Then there’s Nesmith, who’s more of a hustle guy but doesn’t bring great defense. It feels inconsistent that Benn is held accountable for his defense, but Hali isn’t scrutinized in the same way. And with our team’s poor rebounding, why is Benn benched for that when players like Myles stay in despite his bad rebounding performances? Myles should have been pulled when he couldn't grab the rebound in front of him yesterday and ultimately it led to him having to foul the Orlando big.
There’s this perception that our team is deep, but in reality, we’re not as deep as we’re made out to be. I know it’s early in the season, and Rick is still working on rotations, but if he can’t find a way to get Mathurin 25-30 minutes a game, then he might need to go.
Whenever we're called deep it just means "our starters are not much better than our bench players" which is the case for all of our players except SiakamOriginally posted by Piston PrinceBobcat fans telling us to cheer up = epic fail season👍 1Comment
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Mathurin with 30 pts 11 rebounds against the champs. But Rick will find some dumb reason not to give him minutes like "he ties his shoe laces in the opposite direction".Originally posted by Piston PrinceBobcat fans telling us to cheer up = epic fail season😂 1👍 1Comment
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Right. Blaming it on rebounding and defense is cheap lip service to me - that's just a copout answer, particularly when nobody in those games were rebounding or defending well. Sometimes, it has to be about scoring when nobody else is able to reliably.Peck is basically omniscient when it comes to understanding how the minds of Herb Simon and Kevin Pritchard work. I was a fool to ever question him and now feel deep shame for not understanding that this team believes in continuity above talent.Comment
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If your starters aren't much better than your bench players, you are either terrible across the board or you are deep. The Pacers are absolutely deep. Their 6-11 would rank what, 7th in the league at worst and probably better than that? It's just they don't have as much top end talent as some teams.👍 1Comment
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Its still hard to tell. I would prefer Ben starting but Rick seems like he wants to balance line up (between the starters and bench). It would be interesting to swap Nembhard and Turner to the bench and start IJax and Ben. It'll never happen but its a good idea"So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.
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If your starters aren't much better than your bench players, you are either terrible across the board or you are deep. The Pacers are absolutely deep. Their 6-11 would rank what, 7th in the league at worst and probably better than that? It's just they don't have as much top end talent as some teams.Originally posted by Piston PrinceBobcat fans telling us to cheer up = epic fail seasonComment
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The wakeup call is that other than Siakam, Haliburton and Mathurin no other player would start on a good team. I always bring up the days people called us deep for having Tyler Hansbrough and Josh McRoberts until the day we signed a real NBA-level PF in David West, then nobody discussed who should start.Comment
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The wakeup call is that other than Siakam, Haliburton and Mathurin no other player would start on a good team. I always bring up the days people called us deep for having Tyler Hansbrough and Josh McRoberts until the day we signed a real NBA-level PF in David West, then nobody discussed who should start.
looking at the old Spurs team, they had a core of Manu Parker and Duncan (for the most part) and then had a ton of guys that just knew their role"So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.
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