The Rules of Pacers Digest

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Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
Title of the Article
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Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

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Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

Rule #9

Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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Playoff Game #4 Pacers vs Celtics

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  • Playoff Game #4 Pacers vs Celtics


    Sunday, May 26th, 2024 4:55 PM

    Game Preview

    The Boston Celtics are in the driver's seat but Indiana Pacers coach Rick Carlisle says his club will be controlling the throttle in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference finals.

    There's no reason for Indiana to do anything other than push the pedal to the medal on Monday night in Indianapolis since no team has recovered from a 3-0 deficit in NBA playoff history.

    "We're not going to be deterred," Carlisle said of the mountain to navigate. "We're going to be back here Monday night looking to extend the series and we're going to come at it even harder. We have to. We don't have a choice. ... Believe me, we are going after them."

    While the Pacers will stay off the brakes, the Celtics will be trying to close the door on the series.

    Top-seeded Boston moved within one victory of advancing to the East finals for the second time in three seasons by rallying from an 18-point, third-quarter deficit to post a 114-111 road victory in Game 3 on Saturday.

    "We've met every challenge," Celtics star Jayson Tatum said. "We're in great position right now, one win away from the finals. But we can't look past Monday or anything like that, and we have a special opportunity to go back to the finals."

    Indiana played without All-NBA third-team selection Tyrese Haliburton in Game 3 and also could be without the star point guard's services on Monday. Carlisle said he had no injury update to provide during his Sunday media availability.

    Haliburton injured his left hamstring in the first half of Game 2 and exited for good in the third quarter. In Game 1, he had 25 points and 10 assists when the Pacers fell 133-128 in overtime.

    Haliburton was missed down the stretch in Game 3. Indiana led by eight with 2:38 to play before Boston closed the game with a decisive 13-2 burst.

    Celtics point guard Jrue Holiday, who was ill most of the day, was fully revved up for the finish line.

    Holiday converted a go-ahead three-point play with 38 seconds left and added a key steal with 3.3 seconds to play when he forced the ball away from Indiana's Andrew Nembhard. Holiday added two free throws with 1.7 seconds remaining for the final margin.

    Celtics veteran Al Horford, who also starred with 23 points and a career-best seven 3-pointers, was amazed with Holiday's stellar steal.

    "That was unbelievable. That was an unbelievable play," Horford said. "A guy coming full speed and him having the instincts to do that. He's just a winner. Ultimately, that's what it comes down to. He stepped up in a big way for us."

    Holiday, who wasn't cleared to play until approximately 45 minutes before tipoff, finished with 14 points, nine rebounds and three steals.

    Tatum also stood out for Boston with 36 points, 10 rebounds and eight assists.

    Despite the late turnover, Nembhard excelled with the best performance of his two-year NBA career with a career-high 32 points to go with nine assists in 39 minutes. He made four 3-pointers and was a prime reason why Indiana built the 18-point bulge.

    "It's just one of those things where it was next guy up and I think Andrew Nembhard took his game to another level tonight," said Pacers reserve T.J. McConnell, who had 23 points, nine rebounds and six assists. "But he's been playing at a high level all year and has really, really stepped his game up in the postseason. We aren't in that position without him."

    Indiana promises to put up another fight while Tatum repeatedly professes the following: "Closeout games are the hardest. ... Never relax. It's never over until it's over."

    At the same time, Carlisle continues to insist there is plenty of life left in the Pacers.

    "We came up a little short but we will be back on Monday and we will be punching even harder," he said.


  • #2
    I think/hope we’ll win today but unfortunately we’ll lose game 5

    overall it was a GREAT season and we exceeded our expectations. Very proud of this group we have. We’re going to have a phenomenal next 5 to 10 years.

    imagine next year with Mathurin and Walker
    Last edited by MillerTime; 05-27-2024, 12:39 PM.
    "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


    • #3
      Originally posted by MillerTime View Post
      I think/hope we’ll win today but unfortunately we’ll lost game 5

      overall it was a GREAT season and we exceeded our expectations. Very proud of this group we have. We’re going to have a phenomenal next 5 to 10 years.

      imagine next year with Mathurin and Walker
      I love that people still think Walker will ever make the NBA. He's been in the league for a year and he's behind Doug McDermott, he's a bust.

      Every game has been heartbreaking for different reasons, so I'll go with us getting blown out today to keep the trend going.
      Last edited by LongTimePacerFan; 05-27-2024, 10:08 AM.


      • #4
        Just to make V punch some air, here's a little Frank Vogel inspiration from 2011:

        “We recognize that it’s never been done, a team coming back in the NBA from being down 3-0, but my message to our guys is it will happen some day,” Vogel said Friday at Conseco Fieldhouse. “Some day, there will be a team in the NBA that comes back from a 3-0 deficit, so why not us?

        “We’re playing this team toe-to-toe, eye-to-eye. I’ve never been around a team that is playing any scrappier than our team has played right now. We’re becoming the relentless underdog I knew this team could become. We’ve struggled to close out games. It’s going to happen at some point. Why not us?”


        • #5
          This had better be Rick Carlisle's last game as head coach, or the fans will riot. His coaching has been abysmal vs Boston.
          Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel


          • #6
            Originally posted by Pacergeek View Post
            This had better be Rick Carlisle's last game as head coach, or the fans will riot. His coaching has been abysmal vs Boston.
            They won’t. If next year is a disappointment there will be rumblings of discontent.


            • #7
              The only chance that Rick isn't coach next year is if KP retires and Rick moves up in the org. Rick will be with the Pacers until he retires. Make peace with it.


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                • #10
                  Originally posted by LongTimePacerFan View Post

                  I love that people still think Walker will ever make the NBA. He's been in the league for a year and he's behind Doug McDermott, he's a bust.

                  Every game has been heartbreaking for different reasons, so I'll go with us getting blown out today to keep the trend going.
                  IMO Walker will have a decent NBA career. I dont see him making multiple All Star appearances.

                  You also have to consider how raw he is and that his natural position is PF which will put him behind Siakam, Toppin and potentially Jackson. He'll get his playing time - I dont doubt that.
                  "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


                  • #11
                    Originally posted by MillerTime View Post

                    IMO Walker will have a decent NBA career. I dont see him making multiple All Star appearances.

                    You also have to consider how raw he is and that his natural position is PF which will put him behind Siakam, Toppin and potentially Jackson. He'll get his playing time - I dont doubt that.
                    Exactly. He's 20 years old.
                    You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....


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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by RWB View Post

                        Exactly. He's 20 years old.
                        Are there examples of lottery picks that literally couldn't see the floor through 100 games of their careers and then went on to be anything? Honestly asking.


                        • #14
                          Is Haliburton going to try to play tonight, or his he content to watch the season end to he can rest up for the meaningless Olympics?
                          Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel


                          • #15
                            I expect the Pacers to win tonite. The Cetics will not be able to celebrate here.
                            Go Pacers!