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Pivotal week for the Blue & Gold: Hopeful Direction Forward for the Franchise

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Downtown Bang! View Post
    It isn't like Jackson are Smith are drawing comps to a young Maurice Lucas or Buck Williams when out there either.

    "He’s no shrinking violet when it comes to that kind of stuff."

    - Rick Carlisle on how Kevin Pritchard responds to needed roster changes.


    • #17

      Pelicans, Pacers join Knicks, Suns in pursuit of trade target OG Anunoby

      New Orleans has gone on a losing streak without Zion Williamson, but last year, the Pelicans (without Zion) advanced past the play-in tournament to the first round of the playoffs. Even after sending AD to the Lakers, a healthy New Orleans team is better than a healthy Los Angeles team.

      Turner Sports’ Chris Haynes recently said on a podcast with Marc Stein that Anunoby “would like a change of scenery.” He also added that the Pelicans are “definitely high on him” and that both New Orleans and Memphis view Anunoby as a player that will “take them to that next step.” The Grizzlies aren’t one of Charania’s four teams that are pursuing Anunoby, though. However, that could change.

      Indiana has unexpectedly done well in what many thought would turn into a rebuilding season. After months of Myles Turner trade rumors, the Pacers recently extended him. Indiana has been without Tyrese Haliburton for the past couple of weeks but has managed to stay in play-in range in his absence. Anunoby’s game would benefit from playing with a pass-first point guard in Haliburton.

      The Pacers could be that sneaky team (similar to the Cavaliers) that swoops in to trade for Anunoby when the majority believe that he’ll end up on either the Knicks or Suns.

      Knicks Trade Rumors: Pacers, Pelicans join tight race for New York trade target (


      • #18
        if you read "Indiana has been without Tyrese Haliburton for the past couple of weeks but has managed to stay in play-in range in his absence." don't you start thinking WTF?
        So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

        If you've done 6 impossible things today?
        Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!


        • #19
          I'd rather do nothing than to give up any future assets for OG, Collins or anyone mentioned. None of those players move the needle beyond making us a play in team.
          Larry Bird qouted March 25th. 2015:

          Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.


          • #20
            My main problem with OG is his injury history. He’s barely plays 50 games a season
            "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


            • #21
              Originally posted by able View Post
              if you read "Indiana has been without Tyrese Haliburton for the past couple of weeks but has managed to stay in play-in range in his absence." don't you start thinking WTF?

              effectively hali has led this team to potential play in, obviously without him would be surefire top 5 lotto team.

              KP has too many assets on hand, 4 draft picks and valuable vets/rook contracts, if we hold onto these too long per usual im concerned pacers will crap the bed in the offseason.

              logjam at center: turner, theis, jax, jalen smith, goga

              even if its goga & bostons 1st for vanderbilt who as i understand would cover more the pf position. theis should be moved as well to maybe a team like memphis who is dealing with the adams injury. acquiring draft picks for next year would be a wise.

              * if OG was not as injury prone as his track record suggests, it would be an absolute no brainer to offer up some picks and young players. with the extension for myles, pacers need to **** or get off the pot, sitting idle at the fork in the road is what keeps this franchise on a hamster wheel of mediorcrity.

              either shoot the moon or trade teh vets, stockpile future draft picks, and ensure top 7 or so lotto pick. the indecisiveness with the franchise at times is maddening. KP has leverage in a buyers market, "pritchslap" some teams and lets get this FRANCHISE back to where it belongs. an ECF BEAST the next decade.


              • #22
                If anyone is worried about having too many picks this year we can also trade a pick for a future pick before the draft. I'd rather do that than to give up picks for OG just so we can make the play in and screw up our own first.
                Larry Bird qouted March 25th. 2015:

                Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.


                • #23
                  Originally posted by able View Post
                  if you read "Indiana has been without Tyrese Haliburton for the past couple of weeks but has managed to stay in play-in range in his absence." don't you start thinking WTF?
                  We are currently tied for 6th in the lottery with only Orlando in the way of us going to 5th-the very spot we finished last season. The top 4 are not doable. But 5 is very very gettable. That would enable us a shot at getting a significant talent in the same way we got Benn.

                  If we learned nothing with Hali out, it should be that we still are a long ways away from the talent level needed to truly compete.

                  We need to get rid of the vets standing in the way of our young guys playing and developing; and instead use the other draft capital we have combined with these vets that need to go and get valuable young pieces to go along with the young core we have.

                  it would seem unlikely we can use 4 picks in one draft-so use a couple of those to gain some valuable YOUNG pieces now. Play strictly young talent now til the end of the season...get them invaluable experience ...have a great offseason...and then hit the ground running in October
                  Wemby 2023

                  Sabonis 2024


                  • #24
                    I will seriously need to reconsider my "fan-commitment" if they approach the deadline with a "we have a nice little team , our goal is to reach the play-in"-attitude


                    • #25
                      We need to hope that we're sellers and Toronto are buyers. Sadly I think the Toronto front office is smarter than ours and have a better long distance vision.
                      Larry Bird qouted March 25th. 2015:

                      Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.


                      • #26
                        Originally posted by cinotimz View Post

                        Play strictly young talent now til the end of the season...get them invaluable experience ...have a great offseason...and then hit the ground running in October

                        Unfortunately, I doubt this will happen. They seriously thought the team was good all the time, that's why they hired Carlisle in the first place. Carlisle is not a development coach, that's why IJax, Smith and Goga are end of bench while Myles and Theis are playing.

                        Now that they found out that the twin-tower-team was constructed poorly, my guess is, they are feeling that they are just one or two minor pieces now with Hali away from "competing" in the playoffs again.


                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 31andonly View Post
                          I will seriously need to reconsider my "fan-commitment" if they approach the deadline with a "we have a nice little team , our goal is to reach the play-in"-attitude
                          You already know this is what they are going to do, get ready for them to acquire the next Washley Mathews and then act like they are going to win a back to back championship.
                          @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!


                          • #28
                            5 trades pacers could make:
                            Grading proposed Pacers trade for Toppin and other "can't miss" trades (

                            5) Duarte for Isacc
                            4) PJ Washington, Oubre for Duarte Theis Mcconnell
                            3) Moody, baldwin jr for Jalen Smith
                            2) Kennard, Coffey, 23 & 24 2nds, 28 1st for Buddy & Jalen
                            pacers get Obi, Herbert Jones; Pelicans get Founier; Knicks Hield

                            all these deals suck.

                            A new article?has listed out 5 different trades that the Pacers absolutely should make prior to the trade deadline. We grade each and every one.


                            • #29
                              Rick Carlisle expects a quiet trade deadline for the Indiana Pacers | iPacers


                              6 FEB 2023 DEREK KRAMER LEAVE A COMMENT
                              The NBA trade deadline is approaching on Thursday. Will the Indiana Pacers make another big move like last season when they acquired Tyrese Haliburton and Buddy Hield for Domantas Sabonis?

                              “If you’re asking me if I anticipate anything happening,” Rick Carlisle said before the game against Cleveland on Sunday, “I always say it’s very doubtful.”

                              Carlisle’s doubtful assessment lines up with how Kevin Pritchard talked about the deadline during Myles Turner’s extension press conference when he indicated that the Pacers would be opportunistic but cautious in chasing deals and said that he’s not a big deadline guy typically despite the multiple moves made in February last year.

                              “This is a dynamic business and the possibility of being traded is part of it but the human element is always there,” Carlisle said of his general feelings about the deadline. “There’s always going to be some sensitivity and to just ignore it and just say, ‘Hey, it’s part of the business,’ it’s not that simple. But as a coaching staff, as a support staff, other guys in the locker room, we’ve got to help our guys get through this week.”

                              It’s clear that the Pacers need to and probably would like to make at least some minor changes to the roster. They currently have seven guys out of their 15 standard NBA deals that share the same position–at least in terms of what spot they play best. Healthy centers on the roster include Myles Turner, Isaiah Jackson, Jalen Smith, Goga Bitadze, Daniel Theis, James Johnson, and Terry Taylor. You could argue with me on the last couple but Carlisle even brought up Taylor as a guy that plays the five for the team pre-game and even just five centers on an NBA roster these days is too many.

                              “What’s good about it?” Carlisle joked when Scott Agness of Fieldhouse Files asked how he approaches the “good problem” of having so many options at the backup five spot before agreeing that it means they have a lot of talent at the position. “It’s a lot of communication with the players and with management,” he continued before giving the standard coach speak of all the guys have to be ready on any given night, yada yada yada.

                              The “with management” portion of the statement gives some hope that the Pacers don’t intend to play Theis in the rotation past the deadline and that perhaps this is just to showcase that Theis is healthy and available to playoff teams that may be short on rotational big men with playoff experience. He’s done some positive things and sets screens well but watch Isaiah Jackson sky through the air once and it’s puzzling why a young rebuilding team would want to play Theis over him at all.

                              “It’ll all be worked out in time,” Carlisle said of the backup bigs.
                              More on the backup big situation here
                              Meanwhile Chris Duarte has also joined fellow 2021 draftee Isaiah Jackson as a DNP-CD in a recent game this week. While Duarte has struggled to find any kind of rhythm with the team this season, it’s less than ideal to now have both of your first-round picks from the previous season completely out of the rotation while having the 6th-worst record in the league.


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                              Beyond center, the Pacers have a logjam of players at the 2 (but can play some 3) spot as well: Aaron Nesmith has really come along this season, Andrew Nembhard gets most of his minutes on the wing, Bennedict Mathurin has been a promising rookie that draws fouls at a superstar rate and then of course you also have veteran flamethrower Buddy Hield, who leads the league in 3-point makes, leading the group. And then there’s the aforementioned Duarte. The Pacers have made due with their crowded rotation by playing four-guard lineups for most of the game but that’s less than ideal as well and a big part of why they’ve struggled as a rebounding team. They’re just small.

                              Based on Pritchard’s comments, it seems most likely that besides a chance at a minor move like moving Bitadze or getting lucky with finding a taker on Theis that the Pacers wait until the summer to try and reconfigure the roster to something that is more balanced. But even while they are trying to continue to push towards the play-in, they have to do it with guys like Duarte and Jackson at least getting some playing time. Even with the imbalanced nature of the roster, the Pacers do like and enjoy this group of players and the chemistry they have, and I don’t think they have any problem with keeping the group together through this season and seeing where the chips fall.

                              The biggest question for the team has already been answered in Turner’s extension and it feels unlikely that the decide to ship away Hield at this point.

                              “It’s a week that there’s tons and tons of speculation and in the end, there’s very little movement in most cases,” Carlisle said.


                              • #30
                                I'd like to find Goga a new home where he has a chance to play. My ideal would be him + Cavs Pick for a guy like Vanderbilt. It isn't going to make us much better right now, but adds some much needed positional size & is young enough to build forward with.