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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

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A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

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If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

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Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

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When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

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The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

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It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

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However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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Game #24 Pacers vs Warriors

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    Game #24 Pacers vs Warriors

    Out of the pot and into the frying pan...

    https://www.nba.com/pacers/news/prev...arriors-221205



    Game Preview



    After another double-digit loss on Sunday night in Portland, the Pacers (12-11) will try to bounce back on the second night of a back-to-back at Golden State (13-11).


    Indiana has dropped four of five to start its seven-game Western Conference road trip following Sunday's 116-100 loss to the Trail Blazers. Sunday's game was made considerably more difficult by the fact that the Blue & Gold were missing two point guards, as star guard Tyrese Haliburton missed his first game of the season with a sore left groin and backup T.J. McConnell was unavailable due to a non-COVID illness.


    Haliburton has already been ruled out for Monday's game against the Warriors, but McConnell could conceivably return depending on how he is feeling.


    Without either point guard, the Pacers hung around for two quarters in Portland, but them down in the third quarter. Indiana surrendered 39 points in the frame as the Blazers pulled away in the second half.


    The schedule doesn't get any easier for the Blue & Gold, who now have a date with the defending NBA champions. The Warriors showed signs of a championship hangover early in the season, but have righted the shape over the last few weeks, winning seven of their past nine.


    Two-time league MVP and reigning Finals MVP Stephen Curry is having another spectacular season, averaging 30.8 points (fourth in the league), 6.7 rebounds, and 7.1 assists through his first 22 games. The Davidson alum is shooting 44.5 percent from 3-point range while attempting just under 12 threes per game and is also an efficient 51.1 percent from the field and 90.3 percent from the free throw line.


    The Warriors have plenty of scoring talent around Curry in Andrew Wiggins (19.1 points per game), Klay Thompson (17.5), and Jordan Poole (16.7). Draymond Green continues to do a little bit of everything for Golden State, averaging 8.9 points, 6.2 rebounds, and 7.1 assists.


    Projected Starters



    Pacers: G - Andrew Nembhard, G - Aaron Nesmith, F - Buddy Hield, F - Jalen Smith, C - Myles Turner


    Warriors: G - Stephen Curry, G - Klay Thompson, F - Andrew Wiggins, F - Draymond Green, C - Kevon Looney


    Injury Report



    Pacers: T.J. McConnell - questionable (non-COVID illness), Chris Duarte - out (left ankle sprain), Tyrese Haliburton - out (sore left groin), Daniel Theis - out (right knee surgery)

    Warriors: Jordan Poole - questionable (sore left ankle), Andrew Wiggins - questionable (right adductor tightness), Andre Iguodala - out (left hip injury management)


    Last Meeting



    Jan. 20, 2022: Playing on the second night of a back-to-back and without their three leading scorers, the Pacers nonetheless managed to stun the Warriors in overtime, 121-117. Indiana's rag-tag group of reserves put together one of the most memorable performances of the season to come away with the win.


    Justin Holiday's 3-pointer with 5.1 seconds left in regulation forced the extra session. Chris Duarte and Keifer Sykes then hit big shots down the stretch in overtime to cement the win.


    "This is one of those nights that the Indiana faithful live for," Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle said after the victory. "These are the stories of underdog teams that give themselves a fighting chance and find a way. It was beautiful to watch, beautiful to be a part of.


    "I was really happy for the guys. They really fought for it."


    Duarte led the way with 27 points on 10-of-16 shooting, seven rebounds, three assists, and three steals. Six others reached double figures in the victory, including Holiday, who scored 16 points on the night, going 4-for-9 from 3-point range


    It was enough to overcome an All-Star performance from Stephen Curry, who had a game-high 39 points to go along with five rebounds and eight assists while going 6-for-16 from 3-point range.


    Noteworthy
    • The Pacers have never lost at Chase Center, winning all three games at Golden State since the arena opened in 2019.
    • Indiana and Golden State will meet again next week, with the Warriors set to visit Gainbridge Fieldhouse on Dec. 14.
    • Pacers sharpshooter Buddy Hield needs four 3-pointers on Monday to reach 1,500 for his career. If he reaches that mark on Monday, he would do so in 492 career games, which would make him the second-fastest to reach the milestone in NBA history, trailing only Curry (477 games). Golden State's Klay Thompson was the next fastest, accomplishing the feat in 517 games.


    Broadcast Information (TV and Radio Listings >>)



    TV: Bally Sports Indiana - Chris Denari (play-by-play), Quinn Buckner (analyst), Jeremiah Johnson (sideline reporter/host)


    Radio: 93.5/107.5 The Fan - Mark Boyle (play-by-play), Pat Boylan (studio host)


    Tickets



    After a seven-game road trip, the Pacers will return to Indiana to host Bradley Beal and the Washington Wizards at Gainbridge Fieldhouse on Friday, Dec. 9 at 7:00 PM ET. Find Tickets >>

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    1 win & we will come off the road trip over .500, will this be the game???

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    • #3
      Originally posted by owl View Post
      Out of the pot and into the frying pan...
      • The Pacers have never lost at Chase Center, winning all three games at Golden State since the arena opened in 2019.
      • Indiana and Golden State will meet again next week, with the Warriors set to visit Gainbridge Fieldhouse on Dec. 14.
      • Pacers sharpshooter Buddy Hield needs four 3-pointers on Monday to reach 1,500 for his career. If he reaches that mark on Monday, he would do so in 492 career games, which would make him the second-fastest to reach the milestone in NBA history, trailing only Curry (477 games). Golden State's Klay Thompson was the next fastest, accomplishing the feat in 517 games.


      thats an interesting fact...of course I'm fraid all good things must come to an end and have a feeling tonite might be the night that little streak comes to an end....

      hope this doesnt get ugly because it has the makings of such being possible...

      and geez....is Curry good or what....the thought of him averaging 7 rebounds a game with everything else he does is a bit mind boggling

      Originally posted by festar35 View Post
      1 win & we will come off the road trip over .500, will this be the game???
      No
      Wemby 2023

      Sabonis 2024

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      • #4
        How long is Tyrese expected to be out? Are we looking at weeks?

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        • #5
          Man, I hope I don't regret staying up late tonight to watch the game lol
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          • #6
            Just keep it under 140 and you are good.
            @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by festar35 View Post
              1 win & we will come off the road trip over .500, will this be the game???
              Idk... Blazers kind of seemed to present that opportunity last night but we just weren't up to the task.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PaceBalls View Post
                How long is Tyrese expected to be out? Are we looking at weeks?
                Until he is healthy. No rush at this point. I suspect a week or so
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                • #9
                  Especially with halliburton out I have a Feeling we will get blowed out tonight
                  Sittin on top of the world!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PaceBalls View Post
                    How long is Tyrese expected to be out? Are we looking at weeks?
                    Until he gets 100% healthy and, let's hope, a bit more than that as well to be sure. As long as Hali doesn't sour on it, I want him to sit as much as possible.
                    Originally posted by IrishPacer
                    Empty vessels make the most noise.

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                    • #11
                      what's Kiefer Sykes up to?
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                      • #12
                        but seriously let's sign lance
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post
                          Especially with halliburton out I have a Feeling we will get blowed out tonight
                          Play the lotto today
                          "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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                          • #14
                            I hope McConnell can play tonite. That would help a lot. Looking forward to a surprise win here. Go Pacers!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dal9 View Post
                              what's Kiefer Sykes up to?
                              5-10 with inserts
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