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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

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We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

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In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

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Game #21 Pacers vs Kings

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  • Game #21 Pacers vs Kings

    Going to be very tough with the Kings losing their last 3

    Game Preview

    Coming off their most thrilling finish of the season – a game-winning, buzzer-beating 3-pointer by rookie Andrew Nembhard against the Los Angeles Lakers – the Indiana Pacers look to continue their forward momentum in game three of a seven-game road trip on Wednesday in Sacramento.

    The Pacers (12-8) and Sacramento Kings (10-9), two teams that made headlines last February with a six-player trade, will square off tomorrow night at Golden 1 Center.

    On Feb. 9, 2022, the Pacers traded two-time NBA All-Star Domantas Sabonis, Justin Holiday, Jeremy Lamb and a 2023 second-round pick in exchange for the Kings' Tyrese Haliburton, Buddy Hield and Tristan Thompson.

    In the first full season since the deal, both teams have played well.

    This season, Haliburton has been among the top point guards in the NBA. He leads the Pacers in scoring by averaging 19.9 points per game and also leads the NBA in assists at 11.3 per game as well as double-doubles (14), including six straight.

    Hield has also played a key role in the Pacers' success this season, averaging 17.2 points, to go along with 4.7 rebounds and 2.7 assists. He is currently tied for third-most 3-point makes this season in the NBA with 71.

    For the Kings, Sabonis, who played five seasons in Indiana, is averaging 16.9 points, 11.2 rebounds and 6.2 assists

    Both the Pacers and Kings have won seven of their last 10 games.

    This season, the Kings have a new head coach in Mike Brown, the 2009 NBA Coach of the Year.

    The Pacers are coming off a 116-115 victory at the Lakers on Monday while the Kings lost to the Phoenix Suns 122-117 that same night.

    In the fourth quarter against the Lakers, the Pacers trailed by as many as 17 points before making the comeback. On the final play of the game, during a chaotic sequence, Haliburton rifled a pass to Nembhard who hit a 3-pointer on the left wing as time expired.

    Six players scored in double figures for the Pacers against the Lakers, led by 24 points, seven rebounds and 14 assists by Haliburton and 23 points and eight rebounds by rookie Bennedict Mathurin. Pacers center Myles Turner achieved his seventh double-double of the season with 15 points and 13 rebounds.

    In Sacramento’s loss to Phoenix, the Kings and Suns tied 16 times and had eight lead changes in the first half before the Suns opened the second half on a 14-2 run to build a buffer.

    Devin Booker scored 44 points in the Suns win while Malik Monk came off the bench and scored 30 for the Kings.

    On the season stat sheet, the Pacers and Kings rank similarly in multiple categories.

    The Kings are second in points per game, averaging 121.3, and fourth in assists at 27.9. Comparatively, the Pacers are seventh in points per game with 115.7 and third in assists with 28.1 per game.

    Both teams rank among the top in scoring fast break points, with the Pacers putting up 19 per game (second) and Kings averaging 15.6 per game (fifth).

    The Pacers and Kings are also among the best in bench scoring, with the Pacers scoring 43.0 (first) and the Kings scoring 41.9 points (third) per game.

    For the Pacers, after Haliburton, Mathruin (19.1 points per game), Turner (18.0), Hield (17.2) and Jalen Smith (10.9) are all averaging double-figure point totals. Turner also leads the league in blocks per game at 2.8.

    When the Pacers have six or more players scoring in double digits in a game, the team is 9-0.

    For the Kings, speedy point guard De’Aaron Fox leads his team in scoring at 24.4 per game. Newly-acquired guards Kevin Huerter (15.9) and Monk (13.4) and rookie Keegan Murray (10.4) have fit right in on the Kings’ offense while veteran forward Harrison Barnes (13.1) has also averaged double figures in scoring.

    Projected Starters

    Pacers: G - Tyrese Haliburton, G - Buddy Hield, F - Aaron Nesmith, F - Jalen Smith, C - Myles Turner

    Kings: G - De’Aaron Fox, G - Kevin Huerter, F - Harrison Barnes, F - Keegan Murray, C - Domantas Sabonis

    Injury Report

    Pacers: Chris Duarte - out (left ankle sprain), Daniel Theis - out (right knee surgery)

    Kings: Trey Lyles - doubtful (non-COVID illness), Chima Moneke - out (G League assignment)

    Last Meeting

    March 23, 2022: A last-second tip-in by Damian Jones lifted the Sacramento Kings over the Indiana Pacers 110-109 at Gainbridge FIeldhouse.

    The Pacers trailed 66-61 at halftime before outscoring the Kings 28-19 in the third quarter to go up 89-85 going into the final frame.

    In the fourth quarter, the Pacers led 109-106 before Davion Mitchell hit a 15-foot jumper to make it a one-point game with 18.7 seconds left. Following a missed 3-pointer by the Kings' Trey Lyles as the clock expired, Jones got the game-winner.

    In Haliburton and Hield’s first game against their former team, Hield led the Pacers with 25 points on 10-of-15 shooting while Haliburton collected 13 points and 15 assists.

    Mitchell scored 25 points to lead Sacramento and Chimezie Metu scored a career-high 22 for the Kings.

    • Haliburton has not committed a turnover over his last three games while collecting 40 assists over that span. He is the only player since the ABA/NBA merger to have 10 or more assists and zero turnovers in three consecutive games.
    • Haliburton recorded his sixth straight game with 10 or more assists on Monday, tying Don Buse for the longest streak with double-digit assists in franchise history.
    • Mathurin has scored at least 20 points in four of the last five games and has 10 double-digit point totals in his first 20 career games.
    • Brown was associate head coach under Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle from 2003-2005, helping the team to back-to-back playoff runs including an Eastern Conference Finals appearance in 2004.
    • Sabonis has played two games against the Pacers in his career, both with the Oklahoma City Thunder during his rookie season (2016-2017). Last year, after being traded from the Pacers to the Kings, he did not travel for the game in Indianapolis due to a knee injury.
    • This is the third game on the Pacers’ seven-game road trip, the longest span of away games for the franchise since 1986.

    Broadcast Information (TV and Radio Listings >>)

    TV: Bally Sports Indiana - Chris Denari (play-by-play), Quinn Buckner (analyst), Jeremiah Johnson (sideline reporter/host)

    Radio: 93.5/107.5 The Fan - Mark Boyle (play-by-play), Pat Boylan (studio host)

    Last edited by owl; 11-30-2022, 10:17 PM.

  • #2
    This should be a great game.
    It's a new day for Pacers Basketball.


    • #3
      Was wondering when u were getting to this owly

      Second game in a row with so many significant side stories...which should add significant excitement and be crazy competitive

      First time for sabonis to face the pacers...

      First time for Hali and Hield to be back in Sacramento

      I think we may be in for a treat...which would be two in a row

      Fun fun times
      Wemby 2023

      Sabonis 2024


      • #4
        Originally posted by cinotimz View Post
        Was wondering when u were getting to this owly

        Second game in a row with so many significant side stories...which should add significant excitement and be crazy competitive

        First time for sabonis to face the pacers...

        First time for Hali and Hield to be back in Sacramento

        I think we may be in for a treat...which would be two in a row

        Fun fun times
        Yeah I got busy doing errands and trying to figure out how to cast the last game onto my TV from my phone. No luck so far. On to the next option


        • #5
          Buddy is averaging more points than Sabonis.


          • #6
            Originally posted by Winngtime85 View Post
            Buddy is averaging more points than Sabonis.
            Turner is too


            • #7
              I hope Buddy doesn't shoot us out of the game tonight by trying to prove a point to the Kings management. Play within the system Buddy.


              • #8
                buddy is the system


                • #9
                  It'll be a tough game. Kings have a talented scoring team. They suck at defense though. Move the ball, make them work, we should be able score.

                  So much side drama, with Turner vs Sabonis, Haliburton vs the team that thought he was expendable, Buddy against the team that thought he was a throw in. Hope they just play hard and not try to prove anything. Trying to prove something will get them in trouble.
                  "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"


                  • #10
                    I think this is going to be a tough one.

                    They’ve lost a few in a row and Pacers just had a big win. I think it’s going to be a hard one to win.

                    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.


                    • #11
                      This should be great. There are going to be many guys playing with chips on their shoulders. Hali, Buddy, and Domas, of course, but don't forget Mathurin whom I am sure is ready to show the Kings how much they messed up by taking Keegan over him! Keegan has been playing like crap for a month now. I'm sure he wants to prove he belongs as well.


                      • #12
                        Expecting a loss as well. Combination of Tyrese and Buddy pressing too hard against their former team in their former arena and a natural letdown after the emotional high of the Lakers comeback. Hope to be proven wrong.


                        • #13
                          damn...this should be good

                          feels like a playoff game
                          Wemby 2023

                          Sabonis 2024


                          • #14
                            I am expecting a big game from Sabonis.
                            "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rock747 View Post
                              I am expecting a big game from Sabonis.
                              he can't really score on myles...might come down to which of them gets in foul trouble imo